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« Reply #1140 on: February 05, 2007, 01:37:08 AM »

Sorry to hear you're having a tough time. I hope once the club's open and running, things will smooth out a bit and you can relax and enjoy what you've created. You can see the light at the end of the tunnel - not far to go!
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« Reply #1141 on: February 05, 2007, 01:44:25 AM »

Deep breaths mate you're almost there.

If you ever do need bus fare home gimme a shout, I wont be able to stretch to a taxi but you'd be welcome to my last quid.
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« Reply #1142 on: February 05, 2007, 02:15:36 AM »

Don't give up Rob - it will all fall into place soon  I am sure. Gl...

Hang Tough...

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« Reply #1143 on: February 05, 2007, 02:58:21 AM »

Keep on in there Rob, people all across the country are rooting for you. The first time you see the club full, see the cards being dealt and hear the rattling of those chips, hopefully you will feel it was all worthwhile!
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« Reply #1144 on: February 05, 2007, 03:30:54 AM »

Rob,

Sorry your feeling a bit down, but this venture was never going to be easy.

Just thought I would add my pennies worth. I'm an infrequent poster, there are hundreds like me including unregistered 'viewers' who just read the thread. I think poker is a bit like the restaurant business, you have a good meal and you tell your wife, have a bad one and you tell your wife, family, work mates, friends and any one else you meet.

There is a buzz in the poker community about your club, and I am not talking about EPT events etc. but the grass roots. It is talked about everywhere I go (In fact it is getting worse than bad beat stories & I might start charging 50p), I even know of *cough* private games where sattelites are already being organised for weekends at DTD.

I am as guilty as anyone in that I don't add a 'well done' etc. after two+ people have posted something similar, and in a simialr vain there are hundreds/thousands(?) of people out there who are rooting for you to succeed but don't post.

As for your list of problems, a lot of these are pre-opening issues. You are going to have to put n 20h days until it opens, and probably a month or two after that. BUT after then things WILL get easier, plenty of time with the family and all being well you will be at the WSOP with your feet on the table without a care in the world.

As for my goals for the year;

Making a million at online poker: odds against
Qualifying for the world series: probably not
Quitting the day job: again, probably not a good idea
Winning DTD main event with 74o: PRICELESS

Good luck on the 15th, He who dares wins ...

Regards

Jon & a million like me

P.S. Open the club, and I'll give you the bus fare to anywhere in Britain
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« Reply #1145 on: February 05, 2007, 05:28:24 AM »

These updates will have to start costing 50p
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« Reply #1146 on: February 05, 2007, 05:47:08 AM »

unfortunately in your new business venture the grief is never really going to stop.
The GC, police, courts and the council are always going to have a finger in your pie due to the type of business. Get it finished then hand over the reins for somebody else to deal with their constant shit. Having ran bars, restaurants and clubs for several years they never stop hassling you and you can't say boo to them and they know it.

As ever good luck with everything and i could probably give you a backy on my bike if you're really stuck.
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« Reply #1147 on: February 05, 2007, 07:12:32 AM »

I  have never had the pleasure of meeting you, and all i know about DTD is what i have read on here, and a few other articles.

But you appear to me to be one solid successful guy who enjoys his poker immensly, and are in a postion to further this love of the game by investing vast amounts of your own money into a club so others may benefit (i admire you).

I am sure that from reading the posts on here, that once the club is up and running, you will be supported by players from ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

Having been in business i know what it feels like sometimes to have the world against you, but i again feel you know that already, i also feel that deep down you KNOW at the end of the day the club will be SUCCESSFUL, because you dont sound the type of businessman to give up.

I wish you all the very best in your venture, and look forward to reading about DTD going from strength to strength.
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« Reply #1148 on: February 05, 2007, 10:05:34 AM »

Shame to hear how you feel Rob, hopefully it will all be ok a couple of months after the club has happened.

There many people who read this thread who are very excited about the opening of the club who just dont post on here, here in Yorkshire there is a buzz about your opening....we will be straight down the m1!!!
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« Reply #1149 on: February 05, 2007, 10:13:59 AM »

sorry your having such a hard time.living in nottingham i can tell you now that the buzz about DTD is huge. i just hope that it ends up being everything YOU want it to be,not what other people think it should be.
ive been in to the pub a few times but you havent been there,next time i go in hopefully you will be there and ill buy you a drink.
good luck with next week and take of yourself,live life to the full your way.

FRAN
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« Reply #1150 on: February 05, 2007, 10:24:40 AM »

Just when I thought my opinion of the civil service couldn't get any lower....
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« Reply #1151 on: February 05, 2007, 10:53:28 AM »

I don't think you need to be told this Rob, but you clearly need to clear out the dead wood and employ some people who are gonna do what you pay them for, whether they are mates or not. Thats the only way you can get your life and sanity back on track.......
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« Reply #1152 on: February 05, 2007, 12:32:59 PM »

I received this PM today, I've added it to my diary as I think its very well put.


Rob,

I have enjoyed reading your posts.

I always thought that your target market, poker players, is a group that are not appreciative, have no value for money and do not want to put in any real work for reward.  You appeared to have staffed up quite heavily with poker players which did sound off an alarm bell in my head.

Your typical customer is most probably not prepared to pay any kind of premium for customer service and the grief you received for putting on the generous $25,000 free roll, ooooops as a matter of goodwill you increased this to $31,000 which most people seemed to think that was the least you could do, left me at a loss for words.  In fact, I would venture so far to say that those causing a fuss will not spend very much, if any amount, on your site.

Introducing a new online site in todays market is a tough challenge.  You hit the nail on the head when you said you are paying people to do a job but you end up doing it yourself - just like getting a dog and then barking yourself!  I hope that you can address this by getting your management team to step forwards to address the challenge you face.  This is not a ride which can carry passengers.

My fingers are crossed since even with your business skills and personal wealth, you will need some luck.


Best regards
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« Reply #1153 on: February 05, 2007, 12:40:49 PM »

I received this PM today, I've added it to my diary as I think its very well put.


Rob,

I have enjoyed reading your posts.

I always thought that your target market, poker players, is a group that are not appreciative, have no value for money and do not want to put in any real work for reward.  You appeared to have staffed up quite heavily with poker players which did sound off an alarm bell in my head.

Your typical customer is most probably not prepared to pay any kind of premium for customer service and the grief you received for putting on the generous $25,000 free roll, ooooops as a matter of goodwill you increased this to $31,000 which most people seemed to think that was the least you could do, left me at a loss for words.  In fact, I would venture so far to say that those causing a fuss will not spend very much, if any amount, on your site.

Introducing a new online site in todays market is a tough challenge.  You hit the nail on the head when you said you are paying people to do a job but you end up doing it yourself - just like getting a dog and then barking yourself!  I hope that you can address this by getting your management team to step forwards to address the challenge you face.  This is not a ride which can carry passengers.

My fingers are crossed since even with your business skills and personal wealth, you will need some luck.


Best regards


 
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« Reply #1154 on: February 05, 2007, 03:28:54 PM »

I just wanted to say thanks for the freeroll tourney which ran last night.  Most of the tournies that I play in have a top prize of about $200 so for me it was actually quite exciting to be playing for a WSOP package.  I came about 80th of 106 (LOL) but still it was great fun while it lasted!
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