Should exctasy be downgraded to class B?

[Nem]

Shouldnt they differentiate between cocaine and crack cocaine?

yes - ducy?

[bolt pp]

Shouldnt they differentiate between cocaine and crack cocaine?

yes - ducy?

i know why, i was asking why they dont

[rossfourfive]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

[Hairydude]

Yes IMO

[gatso]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

just lol. why isn't it ok to take it? every study into the drug has declared it as pretty much safe. what other safe activities would you like to ban people from doing

do you advocate making horseriding a class A controlled substance? maybe we should as not doing so gives people the message that it's ok to do it

nanny state ftw

[bolt pp]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

just lol. why isn't it ok to take it? every study into the drug has declared it as pretty much safe. what other safe activities would you like to ban people from doing

do you advocate making horseriding a class A controlled substance? maybe we should as not doing so gives people the message that it's ok to do it

nanny state ftw

i wouldnt be at all confident in studys if the list you posted previous is indicitave of their findings, the order of some of those drugs is a nonsense

[thetank]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

I see that argument here and on the news and I just can't make sense of it. Can anybody help me out?

It just makes the whole grading system a big joke, if it wasn't already.

People aren't all idiots, and they can work out for themselves the risks of taking ecstasy, or lack thereof.

The exact same argument means that for these people, the government are sending out a message that taking heroin carries the same risk as taking ecstasy.

Hmmm, might give heroin a try then, if ecstasy is in there then these Class A's must be pretty soft.

[bolt pp]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

I see that argument here and on the news and I just can't make sense of it. Can anybody help me out?

It just makes the whole grading system a big joke, if it wasn't already.

People aren't all idiots, and they can work out for themselves the risks of taking ecstasy, or lack thereof.

The exact same argument means that for these people, the government are sending out a message that taking heroin carries the same risk as taking ecstasy.

Hmmm, might give heroin a try then, if ecstasy is in there then these Class A's must be pretty soft.

"if ecstasy is in there then these class A's must be pretty soft"

lol, so ecstacy is soft?

[ ] ecstacy is soft

[ItsMrAlex2u]

This subject is so messed up its untrue and its come up in discussion here a number of times.

Let people do what the hell they like I say.

Regulate it, tax it, ensure gear is safe/clean as possible and give people the choice to go and get spangled if they wish.

OR

Make the whole lot class A including Tobacco and Alcohol

Always makes me LoL at how hypocritical society is when it comes to fags and things like ecstasy.

"ooooh what a loser that person is for taking the occasional pill on a night out....... Now where did I put my shopping list I must remember to buy myself 200 Marlborough from the shop"

[thetank]

Marlboro Lights should still be class B... ldo

[Raindogs]

drugs rated by their overall danger according to a home office study. similar studies comissioned by eu came up with essentially the same conclusion i.e. ecstasy not very dangerous at all

1. Heroin
2. Cocaine
3. Barbituates
4. Street methadone
5. Alcohol
6. Ketamine
7. Benzodiazepines (e.g. Vallium)
8. Amphetamines
9. Tobacco
10. Buprenorphine
11. Cannabis
12. Solvents
13. 4-MTA
14. LSD
15. Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
16. Anabolic steroids
17. GHB
18. Ecstasy
19. Alkyl Nitrites (poppers)
20. Khat

LOL. LSD at 14 ?  The clowns who produced this list have obviously never taken any of these drugs.  Mind drugs such as LDS (class A I thought) are much more likely to do you lasting permanent harm than heroin.  They should read William Burroughs depostion in Naked Lunch.

As regards downgrading ecstacy it is all a bit silly really.  The classification scheme is meant to reflect the danger posed by taking certain drugs yet we have the government rejecting its experts own advice.  If they don't agree with classifying drugs then make all drugs the same category and be done with it.

[Jon MW]

If they downgrade it to B it sends a message to people that it's okay to take it. While obviously at B it's still regarded as dangerous, people taking the drug wont see it that way and assume because the government downgraded it they can take it.

So, no imo.

So if a drug is wrongly categorised as either too high or too low, it can never ever be changed?

[Nem]

[thetank]

wtf is khat?

that looks allright, I want some khat

where can I get some khat?

[bolt pp]

crack cocaine and normal cocaine are so different, dont any of these studies indlude that seperation, cocaine is not 2nd there if you're not talking about crack.