Bluesq.com GUKPT Manchester: Day 1A

[boldie]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

best answer ever.

[avillan]

I cant believe the negativity in some of the responces - perhaps this explains why you hear so many people at comps moaning, "that tosser had AJ - and you guessed it, the ace always comes" or "How can I lay down kings there - I know he's got ace fooking rag".

So, reverse the situation and say the sb has AK or ace/rag and I call effectively for my tournament and the ace comes down on the board, I was only in for 3500 and could quite easily have passed, I would have been the donk there - as well as being unlucky.

We should remember that we were playing for a first prize of just under £90k - I think if it had been a £50 freezeout with a £5k first prize then my reasoning may have differed here.

so you take more +ev lines in a 50f than a 1000f?

i think im the complete opposite.

do u srsly muck the KK if the guy accidently flips up A2o after shoving?

That late in the day and with just 3.5k in the pot, easy fold.

Steve I know you're on the black belt programme- think this would be a great hand to discuss next week (read on the blog you're discussing hands in smaller groups)

I totally agree with you george.

[maldini32]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

haha

[George2Loose]

I cant believe the negativity in some of the responces - perhaps this explains why you hear so many people at comps moaning, "that tosser had AJ - and you guessed it, the ace always comes" or "How can I lay down kings there - I know he's got ace fooking rag".

So, reverse the situation and say the sb has AK or ace/rag and I call effectively for my tournament and the ace comes down on the board, I was only in for 3500 and could quite easily have passed, I would have been the donk there - as well as being unlucky.

We should remember that we were playing for a first prize of just under £90k - I think if it had been a £50 freezeout with a £5k first prize then my reasoning may have differed here.

so you take more +ev lines in a 50f than a 1000f?

i think im the complete opposite.

do u srsly muck the KK if the guy accidently flips up A2o after shoving?

That late in the day and with just 3.5k in the pot, easy fold.

Steve I know you're on the black belt programme- think this would be a great hand to discuss next week (read on the blog you're discussing hands in smaller groups)

Whats to discuss?

Well not much obviously but think Steve would benefit from what others think of the hand.

[ChipRich]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

fk that



Looks so much more incred....in green obv. [  ] would sure fold this hand also

[ChipRich]

think Steve is just trying to get everyone to 3 bet him when he has Kings.

lol, I wish.

you sure do wish

you sure wudnt fold.

[GreekStein]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

[  ] I didn't just stare at this for about 4 minutes thinking how truly beautiful it is

[ChipRich]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

[  ] I didn't just stare at this for about 4 minutes thinking how truly beautiful it is

hahaha

Ive sure stopped looking at it.

[avillan]

I cant believe the negativity in some of the responces - perhaps this explains why you hear so many people at comps moaning, "that tosser had AJ - and you guessed it, the ace always comes" or "How can I lay down kings there - I know he's got ace fooking rag".

So, reverse the situation and say the sb has AK or ace/rag and I call effectively for my tournament and the ace comes down on the board, I was only in for 3500 and could quite easily have passed, I would have been the donk there - as well as being unlucky.

We should remember that we were playing for a first prize of just under £90k - I think if it had been a £50 freezeout with a £5k first prize then my reasoning may have differed here.

so you take more +ev lines in a 50f than a 1000f?

i think im the complete opposite.

do u srsly muck the KK if the guy accidently flips up A2o after shoving?

That late in the day and with just 3.5k in the pot, easy fold.

Steve I know you're on the black belt programme- think this would be a great hand to discuss next week (read on the blog you're discussing hands in smaller groups)

Whats to discuss?

Well not much obviously but think Steve would benefit from what others think of the hand.

I think the general consensus is that you all snap call in this insta if your putting your oppo on AK - oppo hits ace on turn -  then the thread would be full of your bad beat ramblings - when you had the option to fold p/f

[George2Loose]

I cant believe the negativity in some of the responces - perhaps this explains why you hear so many people at comps moaning, "that tosser had AJ - and you guessed it, the ace always comes" or "How can I lay down kings there - I know he's got ace fooking rag".

So, reverse the situation and say the sb has AK or ace/rag and I call effectively for my tournament and the ace comes down on the board, I was only in for 3500 and could quite easily have passed, I would have been the donk there - as well as being unlucky.

We should remember that we were playing for a first prize of just under £90k - I think if it had been a £50 freezeout with a £5k first prize then my reasoning may have differed here.

so you take more +ev lines in a 50f than a 1000f?

i think im the complete opposite.

do u srsly muck the KK if the guy accidently flips up A2o after shoving?

That late in the day and with just 3.5k in the pot, easy fold.

Steve I know you're on the black belt programme- think this would be a great hand to discuss next week (read on the blog you're discussing hands in smaller groups)

Whats to discuss?

Well not much obviously but think Steve would benefit from what others think of the hand.

I think the general consensus is that you all snap call in this insta if your putting your oppo on AK - oppo hits ace on turn -  then the thread would be full of your bad beat ramblings - when you had the option to fold p/f

What if a King comes on the river?

[ChipRich]

your defo not trying to turn this into a massive level

[  ] was a level originally

[GreekStein]

I cant believe the negativity in some of the responces - perhaps this explains why you hear so many people at comps moaning, "that tosser had AJ - and you guessed it, the ace always comes" or "How can I lay down kings there - I know he's got ace fooking rag".

So, reverse the situation and say the sb has AK or ace/rag and I call effectively for my tournament and the ace comes down on the board, I was only in for 3500 and could quite easily have passed, I would have been the donk there - as well as being unlucky.

We should remember that we were playing for a first prize of just under £90k - I think if it had been a £50 freezeout with a £5k first prize then my reasoning may have differed here.

so you take more +ev lines in a 50f than a 1000f?

i think im the complete opposite.

do u srsly muck the KK if the guy accidently flips up A2o after shoving?

That late in the day and with just 3.5k in the pot, easy fold.

Steve I know you're on the black belt programme- think this would be a great hand to discuss next week (read on the blog you're discussing hands in smaller groups)

Whats to discuss?

Well not much obviously but think Steve would benefit from what others think of the hand.

I think the general consensus is that you all snap call in this insta if your putting your oppo on AK - oppo hits ace on turn -  then the thread would be full of your bad beat ramblings - when you had the option to fold p/f

I can't tell whether you're being serious Steve?

[avillan]

Steve would you mind if i asked you about your thought process during some of these hands? Will obv wait till after you have finished with the tournament.

I made a couple of mistakes late on day2 at Walsall that effectivily cost me a bigger pay day and I didnt want to make the same mistake at the end of the day1 in Manchester, Now in most of your eyes, had oppo had AK and I fold KK pre then it's a bad lay down p/f, but on this ocasion it would have been the correct lay down with the ace coming on the turn... and there was no King on the river.

I was asked about my thought process while playing some of these hands, Now I have responded as honestly as I can - now, how you choose to play these hands out is entirely up to you as is your thought process.

[GreekStein]

Steve would you mind if i asked you about your thought process during some of these hands? Will obv wait till after you have finished with the tournament.

I made a couple of mistakes late on day2 at Walsall that effectivily cost me a bigger pay day and I didnt want to make the same mistake at the end of the day1 in Manchester, Now in most of your eyes, had oppo had AK and I fold KK pre then it's a bad lay down p/f, but on this ocasion it would have been the correct lay down with the ace coming on the turn... and there was no King on the river.

I was asked about my thought process while playing some of these hands, Now I have responded as honestly as I can - now, how you choose to play these hands out is entirely up to you as is your thought process.

Steve,

Your thinking is completely results orientated which is wrong. Whether or not the board came KK256 or AAA22 is irrelevant. You need to be making the play that is going to be +EV in the long run.

If I'm standing at a roulette wheel and I say to you 32 is going to come in now, if it comes in it's still and you backed it it's still a bad bet because long term what you are doing is going to lose you money.

I think this is what you aren't seeing in your play and what you should be.

[Claw75]

I was already above ave chips at this point - why risk it?

because KK looks like this:



how can you fold something that looks that heaven?!

[  ] I didn't just stare at this for about 4 minutes thinking how truly beautiful it is

definitely the most aesthetically pleasing starting hand in hold em