car accident - any advice?

[gatso]

I crashed my car last Thursday, it was my fault

I was stationary turning right onto a main road and a boy racer flew down the road and lightly caught my car

intrigued. how was that your fault then. were you just sat in the middle of the road?

[StuartHopkin]

I crashed my car last Thursday, it was my fault

I was stationary turning right onto a main road and a boy racer flew down the road and lightly caught my car

intrigued. how was that your fault then. were you just sat in the middle of the road?

He was sticking out on to the main road?

[Graham C]

sigh, was in no condition to think

lol proves the point even more

gg graham!

the big question is though, what had u been to see? that will decide whether the round was acceptable or not

Was the NHL Ice Hockey last year (year before?), very good day out.

[phatbhoy]

I came out of a lane got flashed to go crawled over the yellow box stopped looked left as I turn to look right boy racer in his Seat FR back wheel hits my bumper and he loses control. My fault as I shouldn't of been so far out in the road! Still if he wasn't driving like a mad man then never would of happened!

[MANTIS01]

When you caused the damage your opinion was that the damage was minor, and your offer was to pay for the repair of minor damage. However, if the car is worth £500 and the quote to repair it is £400 then it's not minor damage at all, that's like almost a complete right off. So check it out, you were the thoroughly decent and honourable neighbour here, not naive at all imo, just a stand up person, so you've got nothing to feel bad about. Yo neighbour on the other hand takes your offer to pay for a minor repair and abuses it by commissioning his mate to spend 80% of the car's value tarting it up without consulting you first. The neighbour can't just spend your money willy nilly without checking it's ok first. That's not decent. Get a couple of quotes from friendly garages as to what £'s you could expect to pay for this minor dent...then when your skanky neighbour comes calling show him your quote, pay him that amount, and tell him you're really really sorry that his friend is not really his friend at all.

trouble is there's now no evidence as to the extent of the damage. It didn't cross my mind to take a picture or anything. Neighbour is claiming door frame was buckled and needed repairing etc (it wasn't), but I can't now prove otherwise.

Claire, your offer was to pay for minor damage. If the damage was not minor your neighbour should be decent and consult with you first. That is the point. He can't use that offer to hold you to ransom. I remember this story about some guys who finished their meal at some dotty curry house and ordered 5 glasses of the restaurant's best brandy to finish. The brandy was like £200 a shot...so the final bill was well over a grand. The waiter has a moral obligation to inform the patrons of the hefty price imo, especially if the guys live next door.

WTF

If you order anything without knowing the price how can you complain?

Same really goes for what Claw did, she should have said Ill pay upto £100 to get it fixed or it needs to go throught the insurance.

Stu, if me and you were good neighbours and you offered to pay for a meal for my birthday I would treat your offer with decency. I would order a reasonable meal because that is in the spirit of the offer. If on the other hand I abs raped the menu and left you with a hefty bill I doubt you'd be pleased. If I then said "listen clown WTF you said you'd pay" you wouldn't see things that way. I haven't taken your offer in the spirit in which it was intended and me saying it's your fault you should have stipulated an amount doesn't really change that. Not if me and you want to be decent neighbours with one another anyway.

WTF that's left field even for you.

Claire you broke it you pay it, simple as.

I still cant get how you can hit a stationary object!

If you don't get that point it must be common for you to take advantage of people. You see 90% of people wouldn't leave a note at all, lots of posters on here wouldn't leave a note, so 9 times out of 10 the guy doesn't get his car fixed at all. Yet Claire has shown some integrity by admitting it. I would appreciate that and show integrity in return by getting a genuine price. Instead it's clear the guy is wanting to make money out of Claire's honesty with his inflated garage bill grim. I mean, when Claire mentions claiming on the insurance his beef is he would've lavished as much money as possible tarting up his nail at some expensive garage if he knew that. Why doesn't he just want the dent fixed?

"you broke it you pay" means that you would instantly thumb out the 400 notes when your neighbour came calling. And that would make you a dick.

No, your naivety of leaving him a blank cheque makes you a dick.
(No offence Claw  )

Your naivety is leaving him a blank cheque? Is that right? Don't forget this guy wanted £400 to start with. Now if a neighbour pranged my stationary car to the tune of £400, and it cost me £400, I wouldn't be accepting no £250. Who would? So it's clear the guy is trying to take advantage of Claire's honesty. Being honest isn't being naive. Claire's note said she would pay for the dink. And she will. But the guy isn't asking Claire for what it cost him, and that's why he'll drop the price. So it is just a question of arriving at a realistic figure for the actual cost. Claire has already written the note so nothing can be done about that. She is asking for advice now. The real naivety is thinking your honesty has put you in a position where you have written a blank cheque. Because then you would be shelling out £400 to your grimming neighbour. And that would indeed make you a dick.

[mckelinho]

Go into a genuine garage, ask what they would charge so u have a figure and tell ur neughbour that u'll pay what they say

[Royal Flush]

Yes, if i order a pint of Guinness in a pub i expect it to be between £2-50 and £4-00

If I walk in somewhere and the guy says £12-80 please mate, I cant really argue can I?

I was at the O2 in the VIP bar and it cost me about £20 for 3 drinks.

[ X ] I argued/complained

[  ] It went well

you obviously don't get out in london much

I would've been keeping my mouth shut and trying to sneak away before they noticed they'd undercharged me

lol that's what i was thinking!

[StuartHopkin]

The real naivety is thinking your honesty has put you in a position where you have written a blank cheque. Because then you would be shelling out £400 to your grimming neighbour. And that would indeed make you a dick.

Wow

So what your saying is what happened hasnt happened and Claires honesty hasnt but her in a situation where her neighbour can ask for any figure for his car repair even though he has.

Where as if you were shrewd you would say Ill get someone to fix that for you mate, sorry.

I have no problem with the honesty or leaving the note I just think its a dangerous way to go about things. Your obviously assuming the guy is a thief? Why? She drove into the door, all be it lightly, how do you know the extent of the damage?

[kinboshi]

Of course the neighbour is at it.  Why say the cost of the repair was £400, but then say you'll be happy with just £250?

Eh?

[bolt pp]

Of course the neighbour is at it.  Why say the cost of the repair was £400, but then say you'll be happy with just £250?

Eh?

in response to claire saying she couldnt afford it, being nice?

[MANTIS01]

The real naivety is thinking your honesty has put you in a position where you have written a blank cheque. Because then you would be shelling out £400 to your grimming neighbour. And that would indeed make you a dick.

Wow

So what your saying is what happened hasnt happened and Claires honesty hasnt but her in a situation where her neighbour can ask for any figure for his car repair even though he has.

Where as if you were shrewd you would say Ill get someone to fix that for you mate, sorry.

I have no problem with the honesty or leaving the note I just think its a dangerous way to go about things. Your obviously assuming the guy is a thief? Why? She drove into the door, all be it lightly, how do you know the extent of the damage?

I agree she puts herself in a exploitable position. And I'm not suggesting people wont try and take advantage of you in life if you do. But whether you actually allow that to happen is a different matter. Am I suggesting the guy is a thief? No. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm actually saying he's a thief. He wouldn't spend a big £400 without speaking to Claire first and then ask for £250 if he wasn't a thief. A bit more pressure from Claire haggles the thief down to an acceptable £140 before the weekend is through imo.

[MANTIS01]

Of course the neighbour is at it.  Why say the cost of the repair was £400, but then say you'll be happy with just £250?

Eh?

in response to claire saying she couldnt afford it, being nice?

lol

[boldie]

The real naivety is thinking your honesty has put you in a position where you have written a blank cheque. Because then you would be shelling out £400 to your grimming neighbour. And that would indeed make you a dick.

Wow

So what your saying is what happened hasnt happened and Claires honesty hasnt but her in a situation where her neighbour can ask for any figure for his car repair even though he has.

Where as if you were shrewd you would say Ill get someone to fix that for you mate, sorry.

I have no problem with the honesty or leaving the note I just think its a dangerous way to go about things. Your obviously assuming the guy is a thief? Why? She drove into the door, all be it lightly, how do you know the extent of the damage?

I agree she puts herself in a exploitable position. And I'm not suggesting people wont try and take advantage of you in life if you do. But whether you actually allow that to happen is a different matter. Am I suggesting the guy is a thief? No. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm actually saying he's a thief. He wouldn't spend a big £400 without speaking to Claire first and then ask for £250 if he wasn't a thief. A bit more pressure from Claire haggles the thief down to an acceptable £140 before the weekend is through imo.

I'd have her in small claims court faster than a fast thing on fast day asking to cough up the entire £400 if someone kept dicking about and haggling after I "kindly" agree to drop the cost to £250 and had the balls to go for £140...and I'd win.

[StuartHopkin]

Of course the neighbour is at it.  Why say the cost of the repair was £400, but then say you'll be happy with just £250?

Eh?

in response to claire saying she couldnt afford it, being nice?

This

Were happy that Claire is nice enough to fess up and offer to pay

But we cant comprehend the guy may have thought, 'It was more than I thought it was going to be, I expected it to be about £250, ill be happy to accept £250 thats fair, after all she didnt have to tell me at all did she'

[kinboshi]

Of course the neighbour is at it.  Why say the cost of the repair was £400, but then say you'll be happy with just £250?

Eh?

in response to claire saying she couldnt afford it, being nice?

This

Were happy that Claire is nice enough to fess up and offer to pay

But we cant comprehend the guy may have thought, 'It was more than I thought it was going to be, I expected it to be about £250, ill be happy to accept £250 thats fair, after all she didnt have to tell me at all did she'

LOL. 

You sure believe what you've just written there is what he's thinking.