You are the TD. You are Player B.

[Drain Alien]

How is it an angleshoot though?

He picks his chips up, goes to call and the player exposes his cards. He then asks the dealer what the ruling is and the ruling is agreed that he is allowed to make a decision still.

Like any of you wouldnt do the same in Player A's shoes. Player B's mistake.

Player B's mistake; YES. But brought about by some iffy shenanigans by Player A (IMO).

[Rookie (Rodney)]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

[Woodsey]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

I think your missing what we are saying, its whether he deliberately made it look like he was going to, knowing the guy might be a newbie and flip his cards. I know your going to say well the chips weren't actually over the line so he shouldn't have flipped his cards. Its about whether he took advantage of of that situation. I think you know what I'm getting at, your just following the 'them's the rules, so tough shit' line I assume.

[outragous76]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

he makes every possible inferance that he is going to call to try and make player B make an error. Its an angle shoot no doubt about it!

i have never made a big palava about putting my chips in, i just slide them over the line (or forward) and roll my hand

its an angle shoot. full stop. not saying he should be penalised - but a mental note would be made of said player and filed into 'slowroll' folder (there are only 2 players in that BTW - it is very selective - and both because they super slow rolled me)

[MANTIS01]

This thread is BULL!!

lol

are you all telling me that if your ABOUT to call and someone flips there hand to show your losing you COMPLETE your call???

unless someone knows more about this than has been posted then I would suggest everyone would do the same as player A

Yeah he had the 8th nuts but why would you instaflip your hand if you werent excited about winning the pot.

Lets change the board to AAxxx and your about to call with your straight chips in hand and the guy your about to call flips AA and shouts 'F U I HAVE THE FRICKIN QUADS BABY' do you all still put your chips in and say 'well i was gonna call before he did that so i suppose its only right that i still call??

Someone please explain what I am missing, with only the info on here player A appears to have done nothing wrong.

What if player A makes the call and player B then flips over his hand. And it's quad Aces. Player B screams 'F U I HAVE THE FRICKIN QUADS BABY' and then runs around the room punching the air. Then he gets down on the floor and does that caterpillar move all around the table constantly shouting FRICKIN QUADS FRICKIN QUADS. What has player B done wrong? He's not breaking any rules. However, he is being a dickhead, and he is behaving in a way that should be discouraged. The angle player A is shooting is getting info from player B by using a forward motion and comments to intimate he is calling the bet. It's dickhead behaviour. But I agree he does nothing technically wrong

[Jon MW]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

he makes every possible inferance that he is going to call to try and make player B make an error. Its an angle shoot no doubt about it!

i have never made a big palava about putting my chips in, i just slide them over the line (or forward) and roll my hand

its an angle shoot. full stop. not saying he should be penalised - but a mental note would be made of said player and filed into 'slowroll' folder (there are only 2 players in that BTW - it is very selective - and both because they super slow rolled me)

I don't think it's necessarily that clear cut.

If he was in the process of putting his chips in, and the cards were turned over before they were actually in then that could just be that he made the most of player B's error - rather than that being his intention.

[MANTIS01]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

he makes every possible inferance that he is going to call to try and make player B make an error. Its an angle shoot no doubt about it!

i have never made a big palava about putting my chips in, i just slide them over the line (or forward) and roll my hand

its an angle shoot. full stop. not saying he should be penalised - but a mental note would be made of said player and filed into 'slowroll' folder (there are only 2 players in that BTW - it is very selective - and both because they super slow rolled me)

I don't think it's necessarily that clear cut.

If he was in the process of putting his chips in, and the cards were turned over before they were actually in then that could just be that he made the most of player B's error - rather than that being his intention.

I don't think Tighty posts a thread about a simple mistake happening in a cardroom

[outragous76]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

he makes every possible inferance that he is going to call to try and make player B make an error. Its an angle shoot no doubt about it!

i have never made a big palava about putting my chips in, i just slide them over the line (or forward) and roll my hand

its an angle shoot. full stop. not saying he should be penalised - but a mental note would be made of said player and filed into 'slowroll' folder (there are only 2 players in that BTW - it is very selective - and both because they super slow rolled me)

I don't think it's necessarily that clear cut.

If he was in the process of putting his chips in, and the cards were turned over before they were actually in then that could just be that he made the most of player B's error - rather than that being his intention.

orly

to quote the OP

He piled one on top of the other, picks them up said "Oh well, you can't win them all" and pushed his hand forward in mid-air.

[gatso]

orly

to quote the OP

He piled one on top of the other, picks them up said "Oh well, you can't win them all" and pushed his hand forward in mid-air.

lolololololol. that is about as selective a bit of quoting as you can get. let's try adding in the next line shall we?

He piled one on top of the other, picks them up said "Oh well, you can't win them all" and pushed his hand forward in mid-air.

That's when Player B turned his cards over. I assume he thinks he has been called

[Claw75]

iffy shenanigans?

You tell me what you would have done differently in player A's shoes, when you go to put your chips across the line but player B shows you his cards?

he makes every possible inferance that he is going to call to try and make player B make an error. Its an angle shoot no doubt about it!

i have never made a big palava about putting my chips in, i just slide them over the line (or forward) and roll my hand

its an angle shoot. full stop. not saying he should be penalised - but a mental note would be made of said player and filed into 'slowroll' folder (there are only 2 players in that BTW - it is very selective - and both because they super slow rolled me)

I don't think it's necessarily that clear cut.

If he was in the process of putting his chips in, and the cards were turned over before they were actually in then that could just be that he made the most of player B's error - rather than that being his intention.

As I said before, player A does have a bit of a habit of being dramatic. I don't think it was an angle shoot, I think he was just hamming up his call a bit. Player B (not a newbie and well known to player A) flipped his cards over too quickly as he knew he was going to be called - I'm sure he's kicking himself over it now. I wouldn't find myself in player A's position, because I would have just said 'call' if I was going to call, but given what's happened here, player A's amateur dramatics have given him the opportunity to pass and I don't think anyone can say they'd feel obliged to call in his shoes. Can't see it being a deliberate angle shoot myself, and I'm not aware of player A being known for angle shooting generally (sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong)

[MANTIS01]

Is Tikay the angle-shooter?

[TightEnd]

Is Tikay the angle-shooter?

No no

Neither player is a rookie, both are experienced players


Interesting debate, the prospect of which is why I posted it

[Claw75]

Is Tikay the angle-shooter?

No no

Neither player is a rookie

[Woodsey]

Is Tikay the angle-shooter?

No no

Neither player is a rookie, both are experienced players


Interesting debate, the prospect of which is why I posted it

I think its situation dependant, you were there what do you think?

[MANTIS01]

Is Tikay the angle-shooter?

No no

Neither player is a rookie, both are experienced players


Interesting debate, the prospect of which is why I posted it

Oh right. Just Claw mentioned player A was prone to amateur dramatics and I thought about that powder puff Tikay carries around. So is the clue the word rookie? Nah, give up then.