Genealogy

[Jon MW]

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1. Does the fact that Ann Argyle was according to birth records born Ann Argyle but married as Annie Argyle mean anything significant?
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No

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2. Is ordering the 2 certificates the correct thing to do?

3. Is there anything i've overlooked that i could do before ordering the certificates?
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There is a time issue - the 'safe' way would be to order the one you're more sure of (I'm guessing the wedding certificate) and using that to be more sure that the other one is right.

And as for the rest - details change a bit over time, but generally speaking you pretty much get the same details however far back you go.

[pokefast]

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1. Does the fact that Ann Argyle was according to birth records born Ann Argyle but married as Annie Argyle mean anything significant?
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No

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2. Is ordering the 2 certificates the correct thing to do?

3. Is there anything i've overlooked that i could do before ordering the certificates?
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There is a time issue - the 'safe' way would be to order the one you're more sure of (I'm guessing the wedding certificate) and using that to be more sure that the other one is right.

And as for the rest - details change a bit over time, but generally speaking you pretty much get the same details however far back you go.

Thanks again Jon.

I'm more or less sure that both are correct,Just Ann's parentage that is confusing me a little.

I'll actually need both certificates to confirm her parentage won't i?

[Jon MW]

Either one 'might' be enough by itself - but it's the time issue again, if you get one and it's 'fairly conclusive' but not entirely -then you'll need to order the other one anyway.

Quicker if you order them both at the same time - just the slight possibility that you won't actually have needed to.

[pokefast]

Either one 'might' be enough by itself - but it's the time issue again, if you get one and it's 'fairly conclusive' but not entirely -then you'll need to order the other one anyway.

Quicker if you order them both at the same time - just the slight possibility that you won't actually have needed to.

Sorry Jon i don't get what you mean by "time issue"

So the birth certificate would be the best one to get first then because it will have both parents names on,where as the marriage certificate will on have the bride and grooms fathers on no?

[Jon MW]

The birth certificate is the best one to get first, yes.

The time is just you have to wait around for the certificates to arrive in the post. If they're ordered one after the other then obviously it's twice as long you're waiting for them compared to if you ordered them at the same time.

[pokefast]

Right certificates will be ordered in the morning for the Ann Argyle/Daniel Butlin affair.

Moved on to the other side of the family now and had an unexpected stroke of luck. Whilst inputting details of my great uncle i discovered a person with the same person in their tree so i've mailed them 2 heads are better than 1 they say.

Another several questions if i may.

1. Would anyone know ( or at least know how i can find out ) where the burial records are kept for in Windmill Road cemetary in Longford in Coventry?

2. I'm looking for my mum's grandad's family ( Grimley ) they are all buried there but it is a very very large cemetary would any resource be able to tell me roughly in what part they were buried?

[ScottMGee]

Re - cemetary records

I would recommend e-mailing bereavement.services@coventry.gov.uk

[pokefast]

Can't bring myself to put my DOB and mother's maiden name into a random website

Why would you need to put in your DOB?

I was assuming it used my DOB to check a database and distinguish me from all the other Joseph McBloggs?

It doesn't matter who you are - it's your ancestors you're looking for.

The genealogy sites all take precautions for data protection. You can post whatever you like but most of them suggest any living relatives are listed as "Living Relative" or similar.  Sometimes they'll put the name and not the DOB, but usually if there's a problem it's down to the bad choice of someone using the site rather than the site itself.

I'm not too sure how much Genes Reunited follows that though - but I don't think it's that good a site for research anyway

Didn't notice this bit before and now i'm a little concerned.

I'm doing my tree on ancestry and i have included all names dob,marriage etc of every living relative including cousins should i not have done this?

[Jon MW]

Can't bring myself to put my DOB and mother's maiden name into a random website

Why would you need to put in your DOB?

I was assuming it used my DOB to check a database and distinguish me from all the other Joseph McBloggs?

It doesn't matter who you are - it's your ancestors you're looking for.

The genealogy sites all take precautions for data protection. You can post whatever you like but most of them suggest any living relatives are listed as "Living Relative" or similar.  Sometimes they'll put the name and not the DOB, but usually if there's a problem it's down to the bad choice of someone using the site rather than the site itself.

I'm not too sure how much Genes Reunited follows that though - but I don't think it's that good a site for research anyway

Didn't notice this bit before and now i'm a little concerned.

I'm doing my tree on ancestry and i have included all names dob,marriage etc of every living relative including cousins should i not have done this?

Not really no.

I don't know how big a risk it is, but generally an offline version of your tree can have everyone in - but online then it's best to leave out living relatives

[pokefast]

Why is this Jon?

What would you advise i do?

[Jon MW]

Why is this Jon?

What would you advise i do?

As G1BTW alluded to, this information could be used for fraud.

Just go in and delete those relatives from your tree online. I don't think it's a big source for fraudsters to look at, but it is theoretically possible.

[pokefast]

Why is this Jon?

What would you advise i do?

As G1BTW alluded to, this information could be used for fraud.

Just go in and delete those relatives from your tree online. I don't think it's a big source for fraudsters to look at, but it is theoretically possible.

would it be ok to leave names but delete all dates etc?

Isn't there a way on ancestry to make my tree private?

[curnow]

Why is this Jon?

What would you advise i do?

As G1BTW alluded to, this information could be used for fraud.

Just go in and delete those relatives from your tree online. I don't think it's a big source for fraudsters to look at, but it is theoretically possible.

would it be ok to leave names but delete all dates etc?

Isn't there a way on ancestry to make my tree private?

if you get Family Tree Maker you can then put it online with a gedcon file from FTM ie genesreunited/ancerstry with all people stated as living and not there first names  , its the way to go realy and ask someone first before listing there first name

lot of people do it genesreunited but you should ask someone first before doing it , dont totaly trust what anyone has done before copying it , a lot on gens/ancestry have mistakes & dont correct them when told they are wrong

check out your local family history society  , they tend to have a lot of information which could help you

[pokefast]

Why is this Jon?

What would you advise i do?

As G1BTW alluded to, this information could be used for fraud.

Just go in and delete those relatives from your tree online. I don't think it's a big source for fraudsters to look at, but it is theoretically possible.

would it be ok to leave names but delete all dates etc?

Isn't there a way on ancestry to make my tree private?

if you get Family Tree Maker you can then put it online with a gedcon file from FTM ie genesreunited/ancerstry with all people stated as living and not there first names  , its the way to go realy and ask someone first before listing there first name

lot of people do it genesreunited but you should ask someone first before doing it , dont totaly trust what anyone has done before copying it , a lot on gens/ancestry have mistakes & dont correct them when told they are wrong

check out your local family history society  , they tend to have a lot of information which could help you

Step by step instructions for the idiot please!

[pokefast]

Right i think i may have got it!

My tree is on ancestry at the moment.

So should i delete my tree on there,buy family tree maker then do my tree on family maker then up load it onto ancestry using gedcom?

If i put full details of all living relatives on family tree maker and up load it to ancestry will ancestry automatically put all living relatives as just that "living!?