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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2009, 02:34:21 PM » |
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Yeah fair enough on most points.. it was a very weird situation...
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2009, 02:43:01 PM » |
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blinds 2k 4k C/l 200k me 80k
wow fold pre! pre had just over 100k ..80k after the turn bet.... u don't call 9k more into 45k in the blinds with 4k invested last to act pre ? Not with 78, no reasons ? Because you've got 8 high possibly? 78 can be a nice hand for raising in to another player with a stack but it's never been a hand for calling an all in. I think this hand is a perfect example of why you shouldn't call an all in with 78. Would you call a shorty allin in 1 on 1 with 2-1 odds with 7 8 Yes |
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 02:56:12 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? Two men are more likely to knock out the player out than one... Ugh no, there are loads of spots where it is correct to bet into dry side spots. Just do what is the +ev thing for you, it is not your responsiblity to knock someone else out, if you can improve your situation by doing something else. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2009, 03:01:32 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? Two men are more likely to knock out the player out than one... Ugh no, there are loads of spots where it is correct to bet into dry side spots. Just do what is the +ev thing for you, it is not your responsiblity to knock someone else out, if you can improve your situation by doing something else. I think this was my thinking at the time... i saw 45 k sitting there with no obvious interest..ive hit top pair which in all fairness is prob beating the allin as i think he had like 2.5 bb and moves with any 2..but hey its y i asked the question... |
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2009, 03:35:54 PM » |
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Yeah fair enough on most points.. it was a very weird situation...
this is a very common spot - learn to play it well |
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2009, 05:03:07 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? Two men are more likely to knock out the player out than one... Ugh no, there are loads of spots where it is correct to bet into dry side spots. Just do what is the +ev thing for you, it is not your responsiblity to knock someone else out, if you can improve your situation by doing something else. I think this was my thinking at the time... i saw 45 k sitting there with no obvious interest..ive hit top pair which in all fairness is prob beating the allin as i think he had like 2.5 bb and moves with any 2..but hey its y i asked the question... Yeah agreed i like the bet once you have got to the turn, i just could never be in this pot. |
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2009, 06:10:10 PM » |
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I think Steve played it well. He's not really bothered about the short stack chipping up but it's not a bad spot for him to put a pretty big dent in you.
IIRC he called your turn bet with a FD and when it's checked to him on the river he took the opportunity presented pretty well imo.
Quite a lot of the time I think bets into dry side pots are a good move, I don't think this was one of them.
Overall though, I think you're both very silly billies for not letting me get there on the end. Short stack ended up outlasting you both which may be some kind of moral to the story.
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2009, 06:20:05 PM » |
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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2009, 08:29:26 PM » |
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shove pre
in retrospect yes and take a prob 6-4 with the shortie...not a bad move.. |
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2009, 10:38:34 PM » |
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My abs. favourite move is when shorty goes all-in UTG and there's three callers and so I iso-shove with QTo or something and when they all fold their KQ and JT shit I get 5 to 1 on my money heads up against UTG's super wide range.
Not a spot that comes every day but when it does pokers is awesome.
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2009, 10:41:20 PM » |
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My abs. favourite move is when shorty goes all-in UTG and there's three callers and so I iso-shove with QTo or something and when they all fold their KQ and JT shit I get 5 to 1 on my money heads up against UTG's super wide range.
Not a spot that comes every day but when it does pokers is awesome.
i love it too then i love the guys who folded going on about protecting the shorty when we are about 5 hours from the bubble |
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2009, 10:43:24 PM » |
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My abs. favourite move is when shorty goes all-in UTG and there's three callers and so I iso-shove with QTo or something and when they all fold their KQ and JT shit I get 5 to 1 on my money heads up against UTG's super wide range.
Not a spot that comes every day but when it does pokers is awesome.
i love it too then i love the guys who folded going on about protecting the shorty when we are about 5 hours from the bubble Do it on final table for best results. |
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2009, 10:46:10 PM » |
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in retrospect yes and take a prob 6-4 with the shortie...not a bad move.. And you treble up. Much the same as when you made the uber-obv ridicutez iso-squeeze on the button with K2 and binked big styley v AQ on the 22A com-flop. |
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2009, 10:48:07 PM » |
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My abs. favourite move is when shorty goes all-in UTG and there's three callers and so I iso-shove with QTo or something and when they all fold their KQ and JT shit I get 5 to 1 on my money heads up against UTG's super wide range.
Not a spot that comes every day but when it does pokers is awesome.
i love it too then i love the guys who folded going on about protecting the shorty when we are about 5 hours from the bubble Do it on final table for best results. every time i have tried it on FTs i have woken up with wallies how have called the OR with top 4 hands |
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2009, 10:49:16 PM » |
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My abs. favourite move is when shorty goes all-in UTG and there's three callers and so I iso-shove with QTo or something and when they all fold their KQ and JT shit I get 5 to 1 on my money heads up against UTG's super wide range.
Not a spot that comes every day but when it does pokers is awesome.
i love it too then i love the guys who folded going on about protecting the shorty when we are about 5 hours from the bubble Do it on final table for best results. every time i have tried it on FTs i have woken up with wallies how have called the OR with top 4 hands You need to work on your binking |
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