Chompy's Recidivist 2010 G Luton League/Scrabble thread

[HOLDorFOLD]

No results in the inbox this morning and nothing on AWOP. Anyone got them?

Otherwise, updates will follow tomoz after G-Rodge has cashed in the fiver rebuy and Greg has taken down the main event.

5th last night in the £30 +1AO +1 RB.   67 runners roughly.

Only two guys I recognised was the chinese guy - (saver for 8th) (not Pizz or Andy Travalota) and Steve Springs Mate.... not sure if either of those are in anyone's team?

[nirvana]

Oh, the mockery and the shame of it all. Graaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr !

[Sweaty_Terry]

This ain't a bleedin' democracy ya know! We make the rules, you follow'em, that's that. Like it or bleedin' lump it!

Sorry if that sounds a bit aggressive but me and the Marquis have been necking merrydown and special brew snakebites like there's no tomorra!

Yous all think the Marquis is funny when he's sober? Well you should see him after three pints of snakebite 'n black! Had me rolling around he did, right amusing bleeder.

Anyway, we've just got back from the Dog'n'duck and me missus is about to put the roast on the table. Only two spuds for me this week as I've bought the Marquis back.

Not sure I'm in her indoors's good books. Didn't tell her we was expecting royalty and she ain't got the proper cutlery out but what the 'ell! He'll win her round with his great one liners.

[the sicilian]

Ok 5th in the sunday £100 ...sigh...jim mcbride still in

[Chompy]

Name                 Played Won  2nd  3rd  Other   Pts      Score
Greg Sighmuns        20     3    0    1    2       80       4.00
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Sir Donksalot        51     4    3    2    7       184      3.61
Tightend             28     2    2    3    3       95       3.39
Celtic               42     5    0    1    6       142      3.38
G-Rodge              56     6    1    2    11      172      3.07
Tikay                34     3    1    3    2       101      2.97
Boer Wars            106    10   2    6    13      294      2.77
Winkie               20     1    0    1    4       54       2.70
Claw                 50     4    2    2    3       135      2.70
Jonnyplum            78     4    3    1    10      187      2.40
Simon G              14     0    1    1    2       33       2.36
Chompy               58     3    4    1    6       133      2.29
Evil Edna            120    7    3    4    11      270      2.25
China Mug            124    3    4    4    21      277      2.23
Unimaginative        33     2    1    1    3       72       2.18
British Gas          51     1    4    0    4       111      2.18
Rockstar             103    4    4    2    14      224      2.17
LittleRedRidingHood  39     1    1    2    6       84       2.15
Xpressman            79     2    2    4    6       159      2.01
Snatiramas           14     1    0    0    1       25       1.79
Luther               123    3    1    3    17      218      1.77
Pizzled              78     2    3    3    4       124      1.59
Drain Alien          45     1    1    0    7       69       1.53
Alex                 12     0    0    1    1       18       1.50
Handsome Paul        35     2    0    0    2       50       1.43
Lucky                57     3    1    0    4       78       1.368
----------------------------------------------------------------
Nirvana              82     2    1    2    6       112      1.366
Dingdell             32     1    1    0    1       41       1.28

Updated up to and including Sun 12 September

September table
Name                 Won  2nd  3rd  Other   Pts
Celtic               2    0    1    0       45
Lucky                1    0    0    1       24
Sir Donksalot        0    0    0    3       20
G-Rodge              0    0    0    2       15
Xpressman            0    0    0    1       13
Jonnyplum            0    1    0    0       12
Claw                 0    0    0    1       11
Tikay                0    0    1    0       9

Previous monthly winners...
January        Luther
February       Boer Wars
March          China Mug
April          Celtic
May            China Mug
June           Rockstar
July           Evil Edna
August         Xpressman

Scrabble League
Name           Played Won    Lost   Bonus  Pts    +/-     Score
Chompy         21     16     5      7      53     +1108   2.52
TightEnd       10     7      3      1      21     +156    2.10
Clawbird       2      1      1      0      2      +21     1.00
Nirvana        4      0      4      0      0      -116    0
Sir Donksalot  1      0      1      0      0      -161    0
Holdyfoldy     2      0      2      0      0      -211    0
Evil Edna      6      0      6      0      0      -246    0
Dingdell       4      0      4      0      0      -701    0

No leaguers in the cash Saturday, except Holdy, who's not in the league any more.
Jim McBink TID on Saturday night, though, and followed up in the main event last night for Double McBinkage sandwich with large fries. Mel 'headbutt' McFlurry chased home his old mucker.
Nirvana doubled up first hand when some donk open rised to 2000 with the blinds at 25-50. With 33. Nirvana had aces obv. And failed to cash obv.
I outplayed the flotsam for all of an hour and a half. That Ash guy is a tit. At least three rubdowns from three different tables on exit. I'm thinking Celtic, Nirvana and G-Rodge might need excluding from the 2011 comp.
Anyway, more points for Sir Donkeys (6).

Also, GL to TV's Tony Kendall at the awards bash tonight. Contribution to poker isn't it. Get it won please.

[Sighmuns]

As I'm being backed these days I'll write a brief report about the largely forgettable tournament I had.

Slipping back in to the luxuriously slow clock was fun, spend the first hour and a half or so just observing the table and chipping up slowly not getting in to anything even closely resembling a big pot. There was a lot of limping, and for the mostpart at that stage of the tournament I was happy to limp along with my rubbish, attempting to spike monsters. I raised the limpers up 2 times in a space of about 45 mins from late position; both times I got 2 callers and took it down with a continuation bet, to the murmurings of 'he's got queens...'; so for once I believe my image at the table wasn't actually too loose.

I started to explain the major hand that I got involved in in this post, but it ran on too long, so I shall be posting it below. Basically before that hand i had ~13K through small pot poker, and after it I was down to ~6.5K. After that hit I was less comfortable, I set my sights on grinding back to a starting stack within 2-3 levels.

I nearly hit 10K a couple of times, but every time I got close I seemed to pick up AK or AQ, raise, get a caller, miss completely and end up folding. I should say that I didn't give up easily on these pots, but kept having to give up on the realisation that the player had superior holdings to my own and would not fold. One hand I reached the river on a J857 board, feeling convinced that the opponent had some kind of low-pair holding and would fold should a scare card hit the river, only for a 4 to come and the opponent to bet out. 66 much? sigh.

Anyway, I was getting no help at all from the cards, and frustratingly raise-folded my way down to 4k or so. When the blinds hit 200/400 I was looking for spots to shove, so when a guy who looked like the guy from The Real Hustle, in MP had raised to 1200 and got a call to his left, I shoved over the top for ~3800 with 88, getting two calls. One of the guys had 87 (!), not sure what the Real Hustle guy turned out to have, but he told me afterwards downheartly that it was 'absolutely nothing'. Anyway, I spiked the last 8 in the deck (dont think i'd have actually needed it), and tripled up!

With my stack back I immediately felt more at ease, and I cruised along for half a level or so, until it all ended rather suddenly. Blinds were 300/600, I raised from the Hijack seat with AK to 1400. The small blind, who was very shortstacked, shoved, and the big blind (Real Hustle man) made it ~3800. He hadn't been out of line too many times in the tournament, but had been getting a bit frustrated recently by my reckoning. His raise did look strong, but I only started the hand with around 20bb, and that made my mind up for me really. I reshoved, and he took a few seconds before calling, which was a relief.

It turned out to be my AK vs SB's J9 and BB's QQ, which I wasn't overly unhappy with. Wasn't to be though, and I was out. If I had 30bb instead of 20bb perhaps I could have avoided the all in pre with AK, but with my stack as it was I think I had to take what was usually a flip in order to try and get some chips.

I'm back there tonight, and I urge everyone to come down, so we make the 25 runners!

[Sighmuns]

As promised, confusing hand analysis:


The first big pot I got involved in was at the 50/100 level. There had been 3 limpers, and I limped along with QJ offsuit on the cutoff, the button and small blind followed suit and the bb checked. The flop came Q57 2 hearts, and it was checked to me. I picked up some chips to make a bet and the gentleman on the button to my left (I can't remember his name but I've played with him before and my impression is that he's got a move or two in him) goes to check out of turn before stopping himself. Now when this type of thing happens I tend to guage a likelihood of any shenannigans being afoot, i.e. could this be a fake check which actually means the opposite of weakness? My vague memory of the gentleman/how he'd been playing so far made it not very likely as far as I was concerned.

I had ~13K before the hand, and the gentleman to my left had ~8k. I bet 550 into the 700 pot, and he quickly called, with the rest of the table folding. My first impression of the quick call was honestly an, 'I'm embarrassed about checking out of turn, you saw me, you're bluffing, i'm gonna take this away from you on the turn or river." Obviously I try to re-evaluate my first instincts throughout the hand, but I do tend to trust them quite a lot. Anyway, the turn came a 6, making the board Q576. This was a slight scare card. While I didn't get the impression that he had very much with his call on the flop, a gutshot is a good example of 'not very much'. I checked to him and he bet 1200; something that I expected if he was planning on bluffing, but which also made sense if the 6 had helped him in any way.

 At this stage I was thinking that it was very unlikely that he had a flush draw. It's quite difficult to explain exactly why;  it's a combination of timing tells on the flop and turn, and the fact that I think he'd be treating a flush draw as a hand rather than a semi-bluff. To elaborate, I think that he would usually check behind on the turn, taking the free card- the reason to bet a flush draw on the turn would be to get value if it hit or plan to bluff if it didnt; I think that the pot was already big enough for the player, and frankly didn't get the impression that he was the type to make plans for future streets that were any more specific than 'I'll bluff', when calling the flop. This may sound harsh, but these were my instincts and I had to trust them.

 Anyway, right now I wasn't very happy- if i'm trusting my original read he could have 89,34,56,67 and maybe even 66, or, based on the other side of my read, complete air. I rather warily called, and the river brought a J of hearts. The new stack sizes are 11kish for me, 5.5-6k for him.

You'd think this would be a pretty sickening card, deceptively pretty, but I was quite confident in my flush-draw thinking so while i couldnt discount a flush completely it had a reletively low % in my final factoring of the hand. I checked. He bet 3000. Its fairly clear by this point that at least I am not likely to have a flush, so in my mind he bets most of the things he bets on the turn again for value. The real question for me was that if this specific player had nothing, did he have it in him to give up, check behind and muck? Is he capable of leaving himself so few chips back on the bluff? I went back to the beginning of the hand:

Pre: limped on the button with 4 limpers before him- limping with 89,34,56,67,66 makes sense.
Flop: went to check behind, then quickly called when i bet. Indignant call planning to bluff? Has something?
Turn: taking a stab because I checked to him/bet into an unraised pot with plenty of potential dead money or betting for value?
River: is he more likely to follow through with a planned bluff here, or give up? which hands would he continue to bet for value?

I think what pushed me over the edge in favour of a call was my memory of this player's tendency to make plays together with he presumably knowing that I am more than capable of taking stabs at dead money. The flush draw was very representable for him and I still didn't give him credit for it.

 He turned over 34 for the turned straight, and I was down to around 6500 chips.

After analysis:

It's hard for me to see where I could have got away from the hand before the river. I think I should have considered the gutshot as a lot more of a possibility than I did and also noticed a change of mood in my opponent when it did hit. I'll put this down to rustiness; luckily i'm getting a lot of practice in in the near future! It's all very well trusting a read, but the board did get worse and worse for me- he probably checks behind any two pair that he was betting for value on the flop. On another note a level or two after this hand the player in question made a massive overshove against another player on the table with just overcards, got snapped off and was out suddenly. If I remember rightly was about 900 in the pot altogether and the gentleman shoved for about 8k! This made me feel a little better about the hand I played with him because it shows he is capable, as I thought, of recklessness in bluffing.

[celtic]

Raise pre or fold qj Gregory.

[Sighmuns]

Raise pre or fold qj Gregory.

Don't be so 1st level vince

[Chompy]

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[Claw75]

lolz @ ade bayo.


best tournament player locked up imo. wp deano.

[Chompy]

"I reshoved, and he took a few seconds before calling, which was a relief."

Slowroll?

[celtic]

"I reshoved, and he took a few seconds before calling, which was a relief."

Slowroll?

Is slowroll the same as the slowfold you done with QQ on a jack high board last night?

[the sicilian]

As promised, confusing hand analysis:


The first big pot I got involved in was at the 50/100 level. There had been 3 limpers, and I limped along with QJ offsuit on the cutoff, the button and small blind followed suit and the bb checked. The flop came Q57 2 hearts, and it was checked to me. I picked up some chips to make a bet and the gentleman on the button to my left (I can't remember his name but I've played with him before and my impression is that he's got a move or two in him) goes to check out of turn before stopping himself. Now when this type of thing happens I tend to guage a likelihood of any shenannigans being afoot, i.e. could this be a fake check which actually means the opposite of weakness? My vague memory of the gentleman/how he'd been playing so far made it not very likely as far as I was concerned.

I had ~13K before the hand, and the gentleman to my left had ~8k. I bet 550 into the 700 pot, and he quickly called, with the rest of the table folding. My first impression of the quick call was honestly an, 'I'm embarrassed about checking out of turn, you saw me, you're bluffing, i'm gonna take this away from you on the turn or river." Obviously I try to re-evaluate my first instincts throughout the hand, but I do tend to trust them quite a lot. Anyway, the turn came a 6, making the board Q576. This was a slight scare card. While I didn't get the impression that he had very much with his call on the flop, a gutshot is a good example of 'not very much'. I checked to him and he bet 1200; something that I expected if he was planning on bluffing, but which also made sense if the 6 had helped him in any way.

 At this stage I was thinking that it was very unlikely that he had a flush draw. It's quite difficult to explain exactly why;  it's a combination of timing tells on the flop and turn, and the fact that I think he'd be treating a flush draw as a hand rather than a semi-bluff. To elaborate, I think that he would usually check behind on the turn, taking the free card- the reason to bet a flush draw on the turn would be to get value if it hit or plan to bluff if it didnt; I think that the pot was already big enough for the player, and frankly didn't get the impression that he was the type to make plans for future streets that were any more specific than 'I'll bluff', when calling the flop. This may sound harsh, but these were my instincts and I had to trust them.

 Anyway, right now I wasn't very happy- if i'm trusting my original read he could have 89,34,56,67 and maybe even 66, or, based on the other side of my read, complete air. I rather warily called, and the river brought a J of hearts. The new stack sizes are 11kish for me, 5.5-6k for him.

You'd think this would be a pretty sickening card, deceptively pretty, but I was quite confident in my flush-draw thinking so while i couldnt discount a flush completely it had a reletively low % in my final factoring of the hand. I checked. He bet 3000. Its fairly clear by this point that at least I am not likely to have a flush, so in my mind he bets most of the things he bets on the turn again for value. The real question for me was that if this specific player had nothing, did he have it in him to give up, check behind and muck? Is he capable of leaving himself so few chips back on the bluff? I went back to the beginning of the hand:

Pre: limped on the button with 4 limpers before him- limping with 89,34,56,67,66 makes sense.
Flop: went to check behind, then quickly called when i bet. Indignant call planning to bluff? Has something?
Turn: taking a stab because I checked to him/bet into an unraised pot with plenty of potential dead money or betting for value?
River: is he more likely to follow through with a planned bluff here, or give up? which hands would he continue to bet for value?

I think what pushed me over the edge in favour of a call was my memory of this player's tendency to make plays together with he presumably knowing that I am more than capable of taking stabs at dead money. The flush draw was very representable for him and I still didn't give him credit for it.

 He turned over 34 for the turned straight, and I was down to around 6500 chips.

After analysis:

It's hard for me to see where I could have got away from the hand before the river. I think I should have considered the gutshot as a lot more of a possibility than I did and also noticed a change of mood in my opponent when it did hit. I'll put this down to rustiness; luckily i'm getting a lot of practice in in the near future! It's all very well trusting a read, but the board did get worse and worse for me- he probably checks behind any two pair that he was betting for value on the flop. On another note a level or two after this hand the player in question made a massive overshove against another player on the table with just overcards, got snapped off and was out suddenly. If I remember rightly was about 900 in the pot altogether and the gentleman shoved for about 8k! This made me feel a little better about the hand I played with him because it shows he is capable, as I thought, of recklessness in bluffing.

Not fancy a blocker on the end greg ?

[the sicilian]

lolz @ ade bayo.


best tournament player locked up imo. wp deano.

why am i not top of the list please ?