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poonjoe
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Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 12:33:41 PM »
Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players -
http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/391726
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BB: t6110 M = 27.16
UTG: t3655 M = 16.24
UTG+1: t6010 M = 26.71
UTG+2: t2330 M = 10.36
MP1: t3275 M = 14.56
MP2: t8493 M = 37.75
CO: t6382 M = 28.36
BTN: t3505 M = 15.58
Hero (SB): t6305 M = 28.02
Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with As
5 folds, CO raises to t388, 1 fold, Hero...
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mondatoo
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 12:37:12 PM »
Call pre as were oop,lets play some post flop poker
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GreekStein
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:10:54 PM »
3-bet pre pls.
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:16:27 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on November 26, 2009, 01:10:54 PM
3-bet pre pls.
Why can't we flat oop pre when were this deep disguising the strength of our hand ?
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:19:41 PM »
i probably do a 'flat-call' here
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StuartHopkin
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:20:32 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on November 26, 2009, 01:10:54 PM
3-bet pre pls.
Why can't we flat oop pre when were this deep disguising the strength of our hand ?
3 bet for value no?
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:25:32 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on November 26, 2009, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on November 26, 2009, 01:10:54 PM
3-bet pre pls.
Why can't we flat oop pre when were this deep disguising the strength of our hand ?
3 bet for value no?
This early in a comp and oop i normally play AK quite passively,i dont really like 3bet oop vs unknown with these stack sizes.
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BulldozerD
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:27:01 PM »
i'd 3bet as a default
however by this level you should have some sort of read on CO's opening range
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StuartHopkin
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:37:18 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on November 26, 2009, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on November 26, 2009, 01:10:54 PM
3-bet pre pls.
Why can't we flat oop pre when were this deep disguising the strength of our hand ?
3 bet for value no?
This early in a comp and oop i normally play AK quite passively,i dont really like 3bet oop vs unknown with these stack sizes.
I know I started a massive thread on this a while ago.
I still dont understand why we would flat though, just seems to be asking for trouble to me, and its a good time to get a few more chips in while 9/10 out of 10 were miles ahead.
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:37:58 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Call pre as were oop,lets play some post flop poker
interesting reason you have. we're oop so you want to play post flop? have I misunderstood that?
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GreekStein
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:46:23 PM »
If Jones is saying flat call he's probably right (and he's a really nice guy, lovely in fact) but I still prefer 3-betting here (button vs SB that is, if he raises from early I'm happy to flat). If he shoves I'm happy to snap his dick off with AK here but I don't expect him to flat very often.
I know we lose value when he folds worse hands but we allow him to play kinda perfectly against us by flatting OOP too.
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:48:50 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on November 26, 2009, 01:46:23 PM
If Jones is saying flat call he's probably right (and he's a really nice guy, lovely in fact) but I still prefer 3-betting here (button vs SB that is, if he raises from early I'm happy to flat). If he shoves I'm happy to snap his dick off with AK here but I don't expect him to flat very often.
I know we lose value when he folds worse hands but we allow him to play kinda perfectly against us by flatting OOP too.
3bet/calling isnt bad here tbh. How many bb's effective do you think you would just peel though?
I dont think we induce a wide enough range to ship 40+ bigs pre antes.
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 01:58:53 PM »
Cover your screen and pretend you've got 6 2 off.
3 bet to 1050.
If oppo folds applaud yourself for your brilliant bluff steal.
If he shoves uncover your screen and be delighted when you realise that you actually had AK.
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 02:05:36 PM »
Quote from: gatso on November 26, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on November 26, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Call pre as were oop,lets play some post flop poker
interesting reason you have. we're oop so you want to play post flop? have I misunderstood that?
I'm still comfortable playing poker post flop although oop,i think most of his opening range is also just going to call a 3b when he has pos on us and with these stack sizes, I don't really mind a 3b just prefer to flat with both having 40bbs+.
If we 3bet and he calls what's our play if the flop bricks:cbet, check/fold,check/shove ??
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Re: Stars tourney: AKo in small blind, button has opened
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November 26, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »
We are only just over 40bb deep!
3b get it in plz, thanks.
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