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« Reply #180 on: August 24, 2021, 11:10:54 AM »

To be fair that one you mentioned doesn't look too bad. Good luck with it! Cheesy
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« Reply #181 on: August 25, 2021, 11:34:49 PM »

Well played Dooby.

I think exercise at any level is probably the greatest single physical and mental health improvement scheme available, especially when you realise that the only thing you need to improve upon is your old self.



This is very true.  I am a natural at mathsy stuff, and OK in a swimming pool or on a bike, but have always found distance running difficult.  ...

I'm the same on all parts of this - but you could also add short and middle distance running.

My main problem is I tend not to do things without motivation - in the past I did a few swimming events because I liked swimming, but the only way I could motivate myself to do running was with a longer term goal of doing a triathlon.

So I did a 5k run, a couple of 10k runs, an unsually distanced 5 mile run (although I mainly did that because it finished in the London Olympic Stadium) and a half marathon.

After that practice (with a few swim things in the meantime) then I was able to do a triathlon (albeit a bit of a turbo one)

That was in 2015 and I've pretty much failed to find a new target to motivate me yet.

Maybe when everything is back to normal I'll make more of an effort to work out another 5 year plan.


Ironman 70.3?

.... :| maybe more like Eton Dorney Sprint distance triathlon

I could just about do that, but would probably have to practice open water swimming and not sure my bike would cut it.  Do all people swim front crawl and have road/racing bikes or do you get all sorts at the back?   My cousin in Australia does proper ironman (or woman) stuff and some crazy long distance ocean swims.  Must have it in the DNA somewhere.

Good work with the race director stuff Sheriff.  Am probably going to start volunteering a bit more, now I think I can probably make most weekends.   

 
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« Reply #182 on: August 26, 2021, 08:31:49 AM »

.... :| maybe more like Eton Dorney Sprint distance triathlon

I could just about do that, but would probably have to practice open water swimming and not sure my bike would cut it.  Do all people swim front crawl and have road/racing bikes or do you get all sorts at the back?   My cousin in Australia does proper ironman (or woman) stuff and some crazy long distance ocean swims.  Must have it in the DNA somewhere.

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The one I did was the London triathlon, it's hyper organised and really set up well for first time triathletes. https://livetotri.co.uk/london/event-overview/

Any bike is okay and any swimming stroke is okay. But it's probably easier to just sort out your crawl because it makes life a lot easier; and it's usually just breathing that people have to fix.

I "believe" that this is basically true of every triathlon event but I've only strictly experienced the London one. Plus the London one being known for being good for beginners would make me assume that it would have a higher proportion of people having to revert to breast stroke and a higher proportion not having fancy bikes.

If I do another one I'll be perusing the previous years photo's and results because my only aim is to not come last and I certainly wouldn't be entering anything unless I was sure I wasn't going to be embarassed by either my equipment or my finishing time Cheesy

NB: the reason I'd want to do the Eton Dorney second is because London insisted on wearing a wet suit for the swimming part - that makes it physically easier but it's a hassle. Eton Dorney means I'd lose time on the swim because it would be without swimsuit, but I'd be quicker on the bike because - no hills.
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« Reply #183 on: August 26, 2021, 02:17:37 PM »

.... :| maybe more like Eton Dorney Sprint distance triathlon

I could just about do that, but would probably have to practice open water swimming and not sure my bike would cut it.  Do all people swim front crawl and have road/racing bikes or do you get all sorts at the back?   My cousin in Australia does proper ironman (or woman) stuff and some crazy long distance ocean swims.  Must have it in the DNA somewhere.

...

The one I did was the London triathlon, it's hyper organised and really set up well for first time triathletes. https://livetotri.co.uk/london/event-overview/

Any bike is okay and any swimming stroke is okay. But it's probably easier to just sort out your crawl because it makes life a lot easier; and it's usually just breathing that people have to fix.

I "believe" that this is basically true of every triathlon event but I've only strictly experienced the London one. Plus the London one being known for being good for beginners would make me assume that it would have a higher proportion of people having to revert to breast stroke and a higher proportion not having fancy bikes.

If I do another one I'll be perusing the previous years photo's and results because my only aim is to not come last and I certainly wouldn't be entering anything unless I was sure I wasn't going to be embarassed by either my equipment or my finishing time Cheesy

NB: the reason I'd want to do the Eton Dorney second is because London insisted on wearing a wet suit for the swimming part - that makes it physically easier but it's a hassle. Eton Dorney means I'd lose time on the swim because it would be without swimsuit, but I'd be quicker on the bike because - no hills.

I am not sure I'd want to begin with THAT kind of event. 

I used to just swim front crawl in my younger days, but my eyesight is appalling and I can't use contact lenses, so swim breaststroke with glasses these days.  We were away last week, and my daughter wanted to race me doing crawl, so I did a (short) length crawl, but my breathing was very haphazard.  I cerntainly wouldn't manage 400m doing crawl and would probably get lost on the way.  I already have prescription ski goggles and a prescription dive mask, so could just add to the collection. 

I think I'd have to up my stamina, as 750m swim, 20k cycle and 5k runs are all pretty much as far as I go individually.  I could go supersprint, but that seems a bit of a cop out.
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« Reply #184 on: August 26, 2021, 03:57:57 PM »

Oops - at least I remembered to put wet suit in the other parts instead of swim suit.

You do make a reasonable point about route finding - it's really difficult to swim in a straight line even when you can see the way you're meant to be going.

The only other fix to that I can think of apart from prescription goggles is doing the event with someone who promises not to leave your side while swimming.  Looking up to check where the marker bouys are is probably what most of the people doing breast stroke were doing when I did one - that is probably a pretty good compromise; crawl for a bit - switch to breast stroke to check you're still going in a straight line - then keep switching.

Good crawl technique would also help with the stamina - because then you don't expend any wasted energy. If you get the breathing right, then finesse the movement - it makes it a lot easier to go a lot further.
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« Reply #185 on: September 01, 2021, 11:04:16 AM »

I am afraid to put the contact lenses and swimming glasses because I think water might still go through and damage them...
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