APAT online series: Long Post warning

[GreekStein]

I slipped back to 7.5k, which I wasn’t too worried about as this is quite common for me due to my style in the deepstacks. I tightened up for a bit and gradually got back up to about 11k. We then returned to more of the same, semi decent hands, raising or flatting only to be called or reraised and when choosing to see a flop, hitting nowt and being betted/reraised off.

Exit hand:

150/300 level
SB and I pick up pocket tens
Marmite in 3rd posn  raises to 600 and I reraise to 1,750 ish
Marmite shoves for 27k and I call for my last 6.5k
He shows KK and its good game me.

At the time I’m really feeling that his shove is AK/AQ.

Marmite went on to win the tourney and I learnt by reading the APAT thread that it was in fact Steve Bayliff.  Having seen Steve at past APAT events, If I had known previously I’d probably have pushed back a bit more often. Not knocking his game, but know that he would have been chancing his arm in a few of the earlier skirmishes.

I am now compiling a list of Apaters’ betfair usernames so I know as much as possible who I’m sitting with in future tourneys. I finished 118 of 144 but am confident this will be my lowest finish and I do have the win in me over the series.

Constructive criticism welcome.

Geo

nothing wrong with this last hand Geo

[gatso]

Mistake here is raising flop Geo. Hand is hard to play OOP and you don't want to inflate the pot here.

button not oop cos

[GreekStein]

As mentioned earlier, within the first hour I picked up about 8 small to medium pocket pairs but each time the flop would run out A K 10/KQx sort of style with others betting out, or if unopened I’d pop in a bet to try to take it only to be raised or flatted and a bet following the turn.

Another hand that I ended up letting go was:

On 75/150 level I pick up , in 2nd posn and I raise to 525 marmite calls
Flop , ,
I bet 956.25 marmite raises to 2,100 and I call, I’m actually feeling 10 10 – JJ here, does he really reraise here with AQ or a set?
Turn As – I check and marmite bets 3,000 – I fold

Was I ever ahead before the turn?

Need to know what both your stack sizes are here. Don't think I'm folding though. I prob raise his bet on turn or call and call again

[Geo the Sarge]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn  
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River  
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Mistake here is raising flop Geo. Hand is hard to play OOP and you don't want to inflate the pot here.

understood mate.

my thinking here is that I expect a bet from marmite however his betsize is such that if I flat call the BB is priced in and I don't really want the BB in, is this wrong?

The 3rd diamond made me pause but as noted I would generally bet here.

Geo

[Geo the Sarge]

As mentioned earlier, within the first hour I picked up about 8 small to medium pocket pairs but each time the flop would run out A K 10/KQx sort of style with others betting out, or if unopened I’d pop in a bet to try to take it only to be raised or flatted and a bet following the turn.

Another hand that I ended up letting go was:

On 75/150 level I pick up , in 2nd posn and I raise to 525 marmite calls
Flop , ,
I bet 956.25 marmite raises to 2,100 and I call, I’m actually feeling 10 10 – JJ here, does he really reraise here with AQ or a set?
Turn As – I check and marmite bets 3,000 – I fold

Was I ever ahead before the turn?

Need to know what both your stack sizes are here. Don't think I'm folding though. I prob raise his bet on turn or call and call again

I was on about 7.5k at that time, he woulda been about 14-15k

Geo

[GreekStein]

As mentioned earlier, within the first hour I picked up about 8 small to medium pocket pairs but each time the flop would run out A K 10/KQx sort of style with others betting out, or if unopened I’d pop in a bet to try to take it only to be raised or flatted and a bet following the turn.

Another hand that I ended up letting go was:

On 75/150 level I pick up , in 2nd posn and I raise to 525 marmite calls
Flop , ,
I bet 956.25 marmite raises to 2,100 and I call, I’m actually feeling 10 10 – JJ here, does he really reraise here with AQ or a set?
Turn As – I check and marmite bets 3,000 – I fold

Was I ever ahead before the turn?

Need to know what both your stack sizes are here. Don't think I'm folding though. I prob raise his bet on turn or call and call again

I was on about 7.5k at that time, he woulda been about 14-15k

Geo

Don't know if it's a bad way to play the hand but in an APAT comp against anyone who isn't Bedi/Evilpie/Blatch in an APAT tourney I'm moving in here. His line is like nuts (set) or nothin imo.

[GreekStein]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn  
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River  
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Mistake here is raising flop Geo. Hand is hard to play OOP and you don't want to inflate the pot here.

understood mate.

my thinking here is that I expect a bet from marmite however his betsize is such that if I flat call the BB is priced in and I don't really want the BB in, is this wrong?

The 3rd diamond made me pause but as noted I would generally bet here.

Geo

Geo just to check are u SB this hand yeh? Think I may have got confused.

[Geo the Sarge]

No, Im button sb folds and BB calls.

Geo

[redsimon]

Any joy in event two last night?

[suzanne]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn 
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River 
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Only just seen this...how were you EVER folding here. I had also clocked that marmite was a player (also found out it was Steve after the game) You answered ur own question...he was aggresive..in lots of pots so of course he is going to represent the flush. I am flat calling here every time.

Didnt realise you were being staked Geo ....GL hunny x

[GreekStein]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn 
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River 
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Only just seen this...how were you EVER folding here. I had also clocked that marmite was a player (also found out it was Steve after the game) You answered ur own question...he was aggresive..in lots of pots so of course he is going to represent the flush. I am flat calling here every time.

Didnt realise you were being staked Geo ....GL hunny x

We'll he's not beating sets, AK or flushes so I doubt Mr Marmite is betting 2x pot with any worse hand for value. It's nuts or nothing so I don't hate a laydown.

[Claw75]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn 
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River 
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Only just seen this...how were you EVER folding here. I had also clocked that marmite was a player (also found out it was Steve after the game) You answered ur own question...he was aggresive..in lots of pots so of course he is going to represent the flush. I am flat calling here every time.

Didnt realise you were being staked Geo ....GL hunny x

We'll he's not beating sets, AK or flushes so I doubt Mr Marmite is betting 2x pot with any worse hand for value. It's nuts or nothing so I don't hate a laydown.

This. I pass.

[Eck]

Welsh Online Championship

All APAT online championships are 10k deepstack tourneys, which suit me, the majority of my wins have been in deepstack tourneys so was looking forward to the first of the series.

Tourney started and the only 2 players I recognised at the table were Rupinder and Stu Oliver. With Rupinder at the table I knew there would be a bit of action as he can be aggressive and especially in the early levels of a deepstack I like to play a bit more aggressively. Sure enough the early levels seen most of the play between Rupinder, myself and a player with the username Marmite.

Marmite was by far the most aggressive of us all, continually raising pre, re- popping raises and generally bullying the table. I would push back in the odd spot with a strong holding but generally he would show the goods or hit the draw.

A typical example:

15/30 level – On the Button holding QJ marmite raises to 64 and I flat BB calls
Flop  , ,
BB checks marmite bets 140 and I raise to 470.25. BB folds and Marmite calls.
Turn 
Marmite checks – I check (I would usually bet out here probs 1/2 to 3/4 pot)
River 
marmite bets 2,000 and I fold

The near double pot bet flummoxed me tbh and wasn’t convinced that he wasn’t drawing but for some reason didn’t pull the trigger.

Only just seen this...how were you EVER folding here. I had also clocked that marmite was a player (also found out it was Steve after the game) You answered ur own question...he was aggresive..in lots of pots so of course he is going to represent the flush. I am flat calling here every time.

Didnt realise you were being staked Geo ....GL hunny x

We'll he's not beating sets, AK or flushes so I doubt Mr Marmite is betting 2x pot with any worse hand for value. It's nuts or nothing so I don't hate a laydown.

This. I pass.

Steve is aggressive but he is also tighter than you would think, can't see what you are beating here tbh,

[Geo the Sarge]

Thanks for the replies guys.

For the stakees, I've been working flat out for the last couple of weeks due to tax year end (and extra easy pennies.) Will complete a report for the 2nd event in the next couple of days.

Geo

[EvilPie]

Thanks for the replies guys.

For the stakees, I've been working flat out for the last couple of weeks due to tax year end (and extra easy pennies.) Will complete a report for the 2nd event in the next couple of days.

Geo

[ ] We won

That'll do for me mate. Onwards and upwards for the next one. GLGL