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« on: March 24, 2010, 03:13:47 AM »

4 Left small live MTT

Standard payout structure which in this case is 350/280/180/130

blinds 3000-6000 no antes, 190000 in play. Some initial talk of a deal


UTG 50k passes

Button 32k shoves.

SB 58k passes

Hero 50k. Don't want to deal, would rather win it outright. Looks at  and calls the shove

Button is a fella called John Miller, who has hit GUKPT final tables. Has shown a few shoves when uncalled from 6 handed down. Shown 44, 55, KQ. A few other occasions not shown. Generally pretty solid from a night's play with him

Not interested in result, but as I am rusty I would welcome comments on shoving/calling ranges here

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 03:21:11 AM »

Looks like a fold to me.

You're probably ahead but not by much.

Probs calling KQ+ A9+ 66+

I prefer to pass this then shove one of next two hands when it gets to me unopened.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 03:40:20 AM »

Call every day
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 03:47:03 AM »

snap plz
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 03:59:22 AM »

Snapping is better than nit rolling.

Folks tighten up their range a little when it comes to shoving into your blind if you make this kind of call quickly. Even a tiny tightening from them makes you money long term with these kind of blinds.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 04:29:49 AM »

da math on the 37%/30%/19%/14% payout.



The point at which we make money from a call looks to be if BTN is shoving 28% ish or looser (which is almost anyace/anypair/any2broadway sorta range)

From Tighty's read of BTN being pretty solid, I'd say he's shoving that and then some.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 04:45:22 AM »

neverever fold here
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 07:55:21 AM »

get it inski
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 09:20:31 AM »

this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 09:28:16 AM »

snappity snap. the only thing that might slow me down is if I'm only peeping at the corners and get confused for a moment when I think I have 2 green aces

Standard payout structure which in this case is 350/280/180/130

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that's a horrid structure
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 10:45:27 AM »

this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge

 
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 10:51:21 AM »

this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge

 

initial thoughts off top of my head

you are in the money
you have him covered
you close the action
he has 6bbs and it is 4 handed - blinds come round much quicker
don't agree that villain could have "ATC" in previous hand - although his range is wide
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 11:50:47 AM »

this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge

 

initial thoughts off top of my head

you are in the money
you have him covered
you close the action
he has 6bbs and it is 4 handed - blinds come round much quicker
don't agree that villain could have "ATC" in previous hand - although his range is wide

I cba to start this up again - but you merely confirmed everything i thought on the last thread by saying it here, your only valid point here being that you close the action
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 12:01:50 PM »

would hate it but probaly folding v this opponent would expect to be in very bad shape v his range.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2010, 12:05:17 PM »

Snap call. If we're even thinking about folding this hand it makes shoving into our blind so so profitable.
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