Theoretical WSOP Question

[pleno1]

Abit of a argument/debate I'm having with a friend.  You're playing in a 1.5k wsop event in vegas, at the same time the 10k stud hilo tournie is currently on a hour break. The seat next to you which has been empty for the first 2 hours it occupied by Tom "Durrrrrr" Dwan who strolled over from the stud 10k. It is folded to him in the c/o and he shoves his 60bb stack, your stack is 65 bbs, what do you call/reshove with?

[outragous76]

Abit of a argument/debate I'm having with a friend.  You're playing in a 1.5k wsop event in vegas, at the same time the 10k stud hilo tournie is currently on a hour break. The seat next to you which has been empty for the first 2 hours it occupied by Tom "Durrrrrr" Dwan who strolled over from the stud 10k. It is folded to him in the c/o and he shoves his 60bb stack, your stack is 65 bbs, what do you call/reshove with?

77+ AT+ KQs

[The Camel]

Abit of a argument/debate I'm having with a friend.  You're playing in a 1.5k wsop event in vegas, at the same time the 10k stud hilo tournie is currently on a hour break. The seat next to you which has been empty for the first 2 hours it occupied by Tom "Durrrrrr" Dwan who strolled over from the stud 10k. It is folded to him in the c/o and he shoves his 60bb stack, your stack is 65 bbs, what do you call/reshove with?

77+ AT+ KQs

I take my chances with any pair, any ace, any two pictures.

[Ironside]

22+ q9s+

[Ironside]

then tell him the winner of hand owes other person a pint

if i dont win hand i can still use mad jamming skills to get back in with 5bbs

[Blatch]

Gurantee no one would call with 22 here.

Probably are gonna side wider than what they actually would if in the actual situation.

I would say for me 66 up and AT up, maybe KQ

[Royal Flush]

QQ+ AK

[TheChipPrince]

I really don't think ppl would call as light as they're saying in reality here, 1.5k is a fair whack for anyone.

Still difficult to call if we give ourselves 60/40.

[outragous76]

I really don't think ppl would call as light as they're saying in reality here, 1.5k is a fair whack for anyone.

Still difficult to call if we give ourselves 60/40.

not sure i agree

you need to get going in these small buy in WSOP tournies and dwan is pretty much shipping ATC. You need some double thrus to get going, if you dont like that principal - play the ventian instead

[TheChipPrince]

I really don't think ppl would call as light as they're saying in reality here, 1.5k is a fair whack for anyone.

Still difficult to call if we give ourselves 60/40.

not sure i agree

you need to get going in these small buy in WSOP tournies and dwan is pretty much shipping ATC. You need some double thrus to get going, if you dont like that principal - play the ventian instead

I'm not saying its not a call, just that its far more difficult to be there and make the call in reality.

[EvilPie]

QQ+ AK

100% this

Lol at 22+ and Q9+

Lol at 77+ AT+ KQs

Sorry but I just don't believe either of you.

It's one thing to say it because you're maybe 60/40 against his range but to actually do it is a very different thing.

Why the hell would you ever consider getting 60 big blinds in with KQ?

[George2Loose]

QQ+ AK

100% this

Lol at 22+ and Q9+

Lol at 77+ AT+ KQs

Sorry but I just don't believe either of you.

It's one thing to say it because you're maybe 60/40 against his range but to actually do it is a very different thing.

Why the hell would you ever consider getting 60 big blinds in with KQ?

Because you may put his range ridic wide.

[outragous76]

QQ+ AK

100% this

Lol at 22+ and Q9+

Lol at 77+ AT+ KQs

Sorry but I just don't believe either of you.

It's one thing to say it because you're maybe 60/40 against his range but to actually do it is a very different thing.

Why the hell would you ever consider getting 60 big blinds in with KQ?

brcasue dwan is playign 3 tournies and is happy to just try and get a double trhu during the break

it would not be a  terrible call, and like I say above, these thiings are a crap shoot to start with and the structure only gets better later on

In day 1 of the 1k - they got thru 89.4% of the field ! - You do the maths!

[mondatoo]

1010+ AQ+

The buyin should have nothing to do with what our range should be,It's the WSOP so as well as all the pro's there are a ton of donks in these things so spewing off a 65bb stack is pretty bad when we can chip up easily enough.Totally disagree with the structure of these being bad,they have an excellent structure imo and the reason so many bustout is because there are so many really really bad players trying to bink the world because "anyone can get lucky and win" or just from the donkeys who turn up abs mortal from the night before and need to get back to bed

[EvilPie]

QQ+ AK

100% this

Lol at 22+ and Q9+

Lol at 77+ AT+ KQs

Sorry but I just don't believe either of you.

It's one thing to say it because you're maybe 60/40 against his range but to actually do it is a very different thing.

Why the hell would you ever consider getting 60 big blinds in with KQ?

brcasue dwan is playign 3 tournies and is happy to just try and get a double trhu during the break

it would not be a  terrible call, and like I say above, these thiings are a crap shoot to start with and the structure only gets better later on

In day 1 of the 1k - they got thru 89.4% of the field ! - You do the maths!

Yes I know it's a quick structure but this seems a ridiculously wide calling range.

What's your calling range in a $530 stars turbo? I assume given the above logic it's even wider?

This calling range looks likes one I'd put on a full tilt 6-max super turbo rather than a live game.