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[kinboshi]

Please don't class yourself as an idiot Kinbo, xx So what about the many people in the poker world who have been nipped for tournies and not had it returned, that doesn't make them idiots, just kind people with trust in others.

...or naive idiots.

[ACE2M]

I have read parts of this thread (I couldn't read it all as it is just too much to take in) and, like everyone, I am horrified by what has happened.

Being a compulsive gambler is an illness and certainly Neil is ill.  However, whilst having sympathy for him because of that does not mean that he should not accept the consequences for his actions.  I'm not sure whether there is any legal action that can be taken as, from what I understand, all the investors had an informal agreement and there is no law covering this.  I sincerely hope that no-one takes any physical retribution as this will get you nowhere.

This may seem naive, but a possible way of retrieving some of he money is for the investors to stake Neil in one of the GUKPT main event games and, if he cashes, take back the winnings.  At the end of the day he is still a good poker player and if you one of you [/b]twas there to take the winning cash from him at the cash desk, you would get some money back and he couldn't go and gamble it on something else.  As I say, perhaps it is naive, but it is a possible way to get some money back.

LOL LOL you gotta be on the wind up. the guy blatantly asked for money for staking in vegas and spent the lot.Well over 10k i believe. He also tried to rip off my son by freerollin him whilst he is over in vegas saying when he gets there he will pay him the % dollars he owes him . (he came close to winning over 400k ) And as for him being staked in gukpts ! Why dont we just send him to vegas for the main event and put him up in the Bellagio too  !  

this bit is so sick. i bet the kid would of paid up to.

[treefella]

yes he would of paid him for sure. lessons to be learnt i think with poker staking . GET YOUR MONEY 1ST ! no matter how much you think you know and trust them .

[DaveShoelace]

I check this thread out before I check my emails or the WSOP updates, partially out of morbid curiosity and also because a part of me genuinely expects to see that this was some sort of level. I can completely understand George's disbelief at the whole situation, especially after what his mate Kev did (That shocked me as much as Blatch did, I always really liked Kev) because I always viewed them as the three amigos. To potentially lose two best mates in such a manner, one which challenges your belief systems, must be tough. Especially when you have a whole forum of your mates and peers telling you they were a bad un, if one of my best mates did something shocking I know my instinct would still be to defend them at first.

To anyone who even thinks about slagging Greekstein GTFO, whether or not advising his Dad to invest was a mistake, he has handled this with real class and maturity when it matters (Sorry to be condescending and using 'maturity' to describe you, yer little whippersnapper) and I think he is doing a great job at getting people some sort of answers/closure/mediation on this, when he is arguably one of the biggest victims in this.

I personally have lost a few hundred quid so I am not bothered that much financially, I was matey with Blatch and I liked him but its not like I have lost a lifelong friend. One thing that I will take from this, which is bad, is that I cant see myself fully trusting anyone in poker, or at least it will be a hell of a lot harder to do so, with the exception of a handful of really good mates. I had so much respect for Blatch, believed everything he said and put him on a pedestal as a bit of a gambling god - I should have realised when he wore the same rugby top week in week out for 2 years he wasnt a balla. I would only have been more shocked if a Thewy or a Rutter turned out to be a conman, even though now looking back at the whole Blatch back story it reads like most cliched gambling storylines on Eastenders.

This is probably the biggest thing I have witnessed happen to the blonde forum and deffo the most shocking grimming (sorry Blatching) I have known of in UK gambling. The one thing that gives me a bit of hope is how well most people have rallied round the forum. Its nice to see a bunch of people offering to help and give advice and even nicer to see new people to the forum passing on their good wishes and offering to look at the spreadsheets.

Give us a wave Tikay

[byronkincaid]

his 4th post on blonde

As a standard rule if any money is paid to you which is not rightfully yours and you have spent it then you have to agree to pay it back, however the terms are up to you.

East Sussex County Council paid me one months salary after leaving years ago.  I spent it and agreed to pay back £10 per month for numerous years, im still paying it back :-)


swiftly followed by

I now have my own flat ... I dont have money


LOL!

im jealous that i cant get any backers

[morlspin]

Haven't posted here in a while but I hope this helps;

We have a thread on Punterslounge regarding whats happened and its thrown up some pretty interesting stuff.

Thread on PL: http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/f63/blatch-103757/

Old staking thread in which Blatch claims to have used £30k from Gala Win as deposit on his flat(maybe he does have one) http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/f97/stake-offered-10-stt-specialists-72512/index2.html posts 24, 26 may help guys

Finally, I hope each and everyone of you get the money back that you are owed and that Neil can get some professional help at the end of this. also If its proven beyond reasonable doubt that he has set out to con people, then I hope the authorities also have him up in court to be held accountable and he accepts his punishment like a man.

[byronkincaid]

June 2008 he wins 36K and i'm guessing thinks weeeeee I is a pro poker player now
August 2008 joins blonde
has a couple of minor wins until october when he wins an APAT tourney for 6K

did APAT check that he had a job? i think another person is allowed to play them cos he is a sports betting pro, is that what blatch said too?

then nothing apart from a few small cashes, so i guess he ran out of money and we know the rest...

[morlspin]

June 2008 he wins 36K and i'm guessing thinks weeeeee I is a pro poker player now
August 2008 joins blonde
has a couple of minor wins until october when he wins an APAT tourney for 6K

did APAT check that he had a job? i think another person is allowed to play them cos he is a sports betting pro, is that what blatch said too?

then nothing apart from a few small cashes, so i guess he ran out of money and we know the rest...

He won the APAT Pro/Am event anyway so wouldnt have mattered to APAT what he was doing for a living.

[byronkincaid]

June 2008 he wins 36K and i'm guessing thinks weeeeee I is a pro poker player now
August 2008 joins blonde
has a couple of minor wins until october when he wins an APAT tourney for 6K

did APAT check that he had a job? i think another person is allowed to play them cos he is a sports betting pro, is that what blatch said too?

then nothing apart from a few small cashes, so i guess he ran out of money and we know the rest...

He won the APAT Pro/Am event anyway so wouldnt have mattered to APAT what he was doing for a living.

he's played other APATs

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=34625

[Jon MW]

June 2008 he wins 36K and i'm guessing thinks weeeeee I is a pro poker player now
August 2008 joins blonde
has a couple of minor wins until october when he wins an APAT tourney for 6K

did APAT check that he had a job? i think another person is allowed to play them cos he is a sports betting pro, is that what blatch said too?

then nothing apart from a few small cashes, so i guess he ran out of money and we know the rest...

He won the APAT Pro/Am event anyway so wouldnt have mattered to APAT what he was doing for a living.

he's played other APATs

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=34625

I think it was the accountancy thing - but if Blatch was asked and he replied that he was still doing accountancy work, I'd expect that would have been enough.

[byronkincaid]

I think if you go bankrupt you're not allowed to be an accountant anymore? Not the same for an IVA?

[Claw75]

June 2008 he wins 36K and i'm guessing thinks weeeeee I is a pro poker player now
August 2008 joins blonde
has a couple of minor wins until october when he wins an APAT tourney for 6K

did APAT check that he had a job? i think another person is allowed to play them cos he is a sports betting pro, is that what blatch said too?

then nothing apart from a few small cashes, so i guess he ran out of money and we know the rest...

He won the APAT Pro/Am event anyway so wouldnt have mattered to APAT what he was doing for a living.

he's played other APATs

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=34625

that's the team championship, which I believe is an open event

[ACE2M]

If he ends up at GA i know their default line is, if you don't legally have to give any money back then you don't. I assume its considered more important to sort yourself than your creditors.

[KarmaDope]

If he ends up at GA i know their default line is, if you don't legally have to give any money back then you don't. I assume its considered more important to sort yourself than your creditors.

Yeah, but this debt with some of the people that have invested? Sorting himself will have to involve sorting those creditors.

[damo66688]

The IVA doesn't cover Student Loans so h's idea is wrong, sorry bud. Even if you go bankrupt these days, Student Loans, court fines and a couple of other things can't be wiped.

As someone's said above though, the fact that he has an IVA probably means that you guys have next to no chance of getting monies back legally.

And is it the same Neil Blatchley that supposedly got this IVA thingy?

Or are we being led the wrong way (again)?

Based on the info in my link and Blatch's FB (area of living + birthdate) I would say yes.

Don't know his middle name or address but I'm guessing his mates might be able to answer that one. Blatchly (that specific spelling) isn't a very common name though so I would say it's a bit of a coincidence that someone else with the same name, surname, dob and area of living has also got an IVA.

What is Blatch's date of birth? I might be able to find out if that is his middle name

His DOB is 6th May 1982 according to FB.

This is the IVA page on the register I found: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/eiir/IIRCaseIndivDetail.asp?CaseId=1619057&IndivNo=1&Court=LEICS&OfficeID=95&CaseType=I

I have had a look at this address on UKInfo and seems there is a ltd company registered at this address................called wait for it...........

5 MILLION PORTFOLIO LTD.

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/57bf8d9f3883d30893e69683df6059e4/compdetails