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Nico29
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:49:46 PM »
Get it in already.
Tighty's range is crushed by your holding. Dont even worry about utg shipper shorty.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:53:27 PM »
Surely a sensible range for Prewdinkalot would be
AJ+ 99+
I know he is Tight, but come on!
And the above range would mean its not even close to a fold.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:55:40 PM »
seems pretty conclusive that getting them all in was the way to go - the table was divided. I found a fold. Probably more driven by personal circumstances (i.e. laddering up a place or two would make a huge difference to me atm) than thinking it was the right play.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:57:37 PM »
You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 27, 2010, 03:53:27 PM
Surely a sensible range for Prewdinkalot would be
AJ+ 99+
I know he is Tight, but come on!
And the above range would mean its not even close to a fold.
Agree.
Altho i guess with aces he might flat, as he might also with smaller pairs than 9's.
So if we stove this 99-kk and aj+ your range is 65% fav against tighty's.
Fistpump ship.
Quote from: NoflopsHomer on July 27, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.
Also totally agree.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 03:59:42 PM »
Quote from: Claw75 on July 27, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
seems pretty conclusive that getting them all in was the way to go - the table was divided. I found a fold. Probably more driven by personal circumstances (i.e. laddering up a place or two would make a huge difference to me atm) than thinking it was the right play.
What would you have been against?
Not that that changes this being a shove though
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:01:36 PM »
Yep, closure please.
Who thought it was the correct fold and what did Prewdiepants proudly turn over?
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:02:59 PM »
Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.
There is no right or wrong. Every individual is different!!!!!
I knew there was a reason I never came on this board
better go now!!
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »
Quote from: NoflopsHomer on July 27, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.
playing as a social thing rather than anything else, but once i've made the money and it's going to make a fair bit of difference to me if i'm moving up a place or two, then is it such a big deal to try to ladder?
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:05:05 PM »
Quote from: Snatiramas on July 27, 2010, 04:02:59 PM
Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.
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lol kind of agree - had no intention of putting it up here, but rich thought it would be a good hand for discussion so I blame him
. as it turns out it's just a 'you did the wrong thing, shouldn't be playing this comp' etc thread. sigh.
chompy - alan gray said he's never folding queens. chris poulton said he'd fold in that spot. chris (utg) had AJ i think, tighty had AK.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:05:11 PM »
Just auto assume that because opponent is tight he has to have one of the only two hands that beat you and fold.
(call quickly)
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:06:07 PM »
OK, just stuck the raw numbers into an ICM calc.
Current equity, assuming two equal stacks of 90k, and others of 27k, 30k, 33k is £388
Equity of calling and losing is £110, obv.
Equity of winning the hand and knocking out both players is £517.
So winning the hand gains you £129 in equity, losing it loses you £278 in equity.
Assuming you're 65% favourite, as stated above, then the call loses you £13.45 on average.
(Edit: CBA to figure out the equity of winning side pots, etc.)
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:10:32 PM »
Quote from: Claw75 on July 27, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Snatiramas on July 27, 2010, 04:02:59 PM
Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.
There is no right or wrong. Every individual is different!!!!!
I knew there was a reason I never came on this board
better go now!!
lol kind of agree - had no intention of putting it up here, but rich thought it would be a good hand for discussion so I blame him
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as it turns out it's just a 'you did the wrong thing, shouldn't be playing this comp' etc thread. sigh
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chompy - alan gray said he's never folding queens. chris poulton said he'd fold in that spot. chris (utg) had AJ i think, tighty had AK.
Bit unfair, think ppl-myself included are just trying to be constructive.
If it was close to a fold then ppl wld say, but if tighty has like 99+, aj+ then you are a 65% fav against his range.
And in regards to not playing a comp that financially makes such a difference i think what we are saying is that this means that you won't play +ev all the time-thus maybe you shldnt play it?
Hence passing up a spot when you are normally a 2/1 fav.
Not that we all haven't been guilty of that in the past, myself massively.
That's playing in comps too big for my roll and sometimes doing the ol ladder job.
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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July 27, 2010, 04:10:41 PM »
Quote from: Sheriff Fatman on July 27, 2010, 04:06:07 PM
fuck maths, we have queens and we are five handed with >30bbs
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Re: Hand from FT at Luton last night
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Reply #29 on:
July 27, 2010, 04:14:13 PM »
i'd be getting several worse hands in here as well probs
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