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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 03:49:46 PM »

Get it in already.

Tighty's range is crushed by your holding. Dont even worry about utg shipper shorty.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 03:53:27 PM »

Surely a sensible range for Prewdinkalot would be

AJ+ 99+

I know he is Tight, but come on!

And the above range would mean its not even close to a fold.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 03:55:40 PM »

seems pretty conclusive that getting them all in was the way to go - the table was divided.  I found a fold.  Probably more driven by personal circumstances (i.e. laddering up a place or two would make a huge difference to me atm) than thinking it was the right play.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 03:57:37 PM »

You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »

Surely a sensible range for Prewdinkalot would be

AJ+ 99+

I know he is Tight, but come on!

And the above range would mean its not even close to a fold.


Agree.

Altho i guess with aces he might flat, as he might also with smaller pairs than 9's.

So if we stove this 99-kk and aj+ your range is 65% fav against tighty's.

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You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.

Also totally agree.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2010, 03:59:42 PM »

seems pretty conclusive that getting them all in was the way to go - the table was divided.  I found a fold.  Probably more driven by personal circumstances (i.e. laddering up a place or two would make a huge difference to me atm) than thinking it was the right play.

What would you have been against?

Not that that changes this being a shove though Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2010, 04:01:36 PM »

Yep, closure please.
Who thought it was the correct fold and what did Prewdiepants proudly turn over?
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2010, 04:02:59 PM »

Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.

There is no right or wrong. Every individual is different!!!!!
I knew there was a reason I never came on this board

better go now!!
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »

You should not be playing the event if the difference in prize money makes that big a difference.

playing as a social thing rather than anything else, but once i've made the money and it's going to make a fair bit of difference to me if i'm moving up a place or two, then is it such a big deal to try to ladder? 
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2010, 04:05:05 PM »

Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.

There is no right or wrong. Every individual is different!!!!!
I knew there was a reason I never came on this board

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lol kind of agree - had no intention of putting it up here, but rich thought it would be a good hand for discussion so I blame him Smiley.  as it turns out it's just a 'you did the wrong thing, shouldn't be playing this comp' etc thread. sigh.

chompy - alan gray said he's never folding queens. chris poulton said he'd fold in that spot.  chris (utg) had AJ i think, tighty had AK.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2010, 04:05:11 PM »

Just auto assume that because opponent is tight he has to have one of the only two hands that beat you and fold.

(call quickly)
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2010, 04:06:07 PM »

OK, just stuck the raw numbers into an ICM calc.

Current equity, assuming two equal stacks of 90k, and others of 27k, 30k, 33k is £388

Equity of calling and losing is £110, obv.

Equity of winning the hand and knocking out both players is £517.

So winning the hand gains you £129 in equity, losing it loses you £278 in equity.

Assuming you're 65% favourite, as stated above, then the call loses you £13.45 on average.

(Edit: CBA to figure out the equity of winning side pots, etc.)
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2010, 04:10:32 PM »

Do what you like and don't give a stuff about what anybody thinks.

There is no right or wrong. Every individual is different!!!!!
I knew there was a reason I never came on this board

better go now!!

lol kind of agree - had no intention of putting it up here, but rich thought it would be a good hand for discussion so I blame him Smiley.  as it turns out it's just a 'you did the wrong thing, shouldn't be playing this comp' etc thread. sigh.

chompy - alan gray said he's never folding queens. chris poulton said he'd fold in that spot.  chris (utg) had AJ i think, tighty had AK.

Bit unfair, think ppl-myself included are just trying to be constructive.

If it was close to a fold then ppl wld say, but if tighty has like 99+, aj+ then you are a 65% fav against his range.

And in regards to not playing a comp that financially makes such a difference i think what we are saying is that this means that you won't play +ev all the time-thus maybe you shldnt play it?

Hence passing up a spot when you are normally a 2/1 fav.

Not that we all haven't been guilty of that in the past, myself massively. Smiley

That's playing in comps too big for my roll and sometimes doing the ol ladder job.
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2010, 04:10:41 PM »


fuck maths, we have queens and we are five handed with >30bbs


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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2010, 04:14:13 PM »

i'd be getting several worse hands in here as well probs
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