Apology to Tikay.

[booder]

Have been given permission to post this from Kev...



Firstly, my PC was in mine and Janes bedroom, It was password protected and was only ever used by me apart from the odd time that Jane did something for me on it. It was not and never has been a "communal" PC. Jane had her PC downstairs which all the kids used, there were also 3 or 4 laptops in the house, no one, repeat NO ONE had access to my desktop !!

 secondly
 Jane knew about the Laxie vid less than 1 minute after I saw it, She didnt actually watch the vid because I had no copy of it, but she knew exactly what it contained as I told her everything. Jane was disgusted at what I told her, but obviously not disgusted enough to tell Laxie until she had a major beef with me.

Thirdly
 I have had many people talk to me about the video clip, they all seem to be of the impression that it is a feature film showing 2 people having sex while one is drugged ... the FACTS are that it was a 30 secondish clip of Laxie laying on her stomach on a bed stark naked and shieldsy touched her and then stuck 2 fingers up at the camera which he was holding himself. I did not even know it was Laxie,i was only made aware through msn,
as I said in the msn convo (which I am sure can be proved) . I did NOT know Laxie was in a drunken state and was unaware of what was happening, again the msn convo will bear this out.

I am pretty stressed out about all of this, people are coming on here saying whatever they want and I have to sit here and read it, truth is Laxie WAS the victim of a horrible breach of trust and that is a given fact which no one can deny, it is also a fact that I too have been a victim of malicious and vindictive actions by Jane. I have proof that she has deleted photographs, I have proof that she has deleted emails, I have proof that she was all over my computer like a rash on the 30th June.

 I know she read my PM's as she quoted some of them to me on the phone, but although the browser history showed this when I fired up the computer, I since went into my PM's before I was banned which changes the date and loses the fact that she looked at them on the 30th June
 I can provide screen shot evidence to show that the photos, and emails were looked at AND modified, I do not need to prove that she copied and deleted all of my chat logs as she has proved that for me. Unfortunately I cannot prove that she looked at my PM's but I know with 100% confidence that she did.

[outragous76]

Have been given permission to post this from Kev...

 secondly
 Jane knew about the Laxie vid less than 1 minute after I saw it, She didnt actually watch the vid because I had no copy of it, but she knew exactly what it contained as I told her everything. Jane was disgusted at what I told her, but obviously not disgusted enough to tell Laxie until she had a major beef with me.

right there - thats all you need

[Shogun112]

Think Claw nails it. People probably aren't just annoyed that their PM's were being read just the fact that somebody that is in a position of trust on blonde could have read private information that were made by different methods of communication. If she unveilled some incriminating evidence then well done for bringing it to somebody's attention but if she suspected it was there contac the police , if not than going through somebody's converstations, txts or emails isn't the behaviour i would expect of a mod.
I know nobdy involved but Claw mentioned earlier that she had heard back something from one of her converstations getting back to her. Whether it was a conversation on blonde or not doesn't really matter. It's not asking for a hanging or even a banning people just don't think that's what a mod should be doing.

"Probably" and "Could Have" - that is interesting...!!   

I have a car that is capable of doing 150mph...  People say, I "Could have" been speeding on the motorway.. Get the handcuffs out officer, guilty as accused..!!  The evidence is all there, my car is capable, so I MUST have done it..!!

[Claw75]

Think Claw nails it. People probably aren't just annoyed that their PM's were being read just the fact that somebody that is in a position of trust on blonde could have read private information that were made by different methods of communication. If she unveilled some incriminating evidence then well done for bringing it to somebody's attention but if she suspected it was there contac the police , if not than going through somebody's converstations, txts or emails isn't the behaviour i would expect of a mod.
I know nobdy involved but Claw mentioned earlier that she had heard back something from one of her converstations getting back to her. Whether it was a conversation on blonde or not doesn't really matter. It's not asking for a hanging or even a banning people just don't think that's what a mod should be doing.

"Probably" and "Could Have" - that is interesting...!!   

I have a car that is capable of doing 150mph...  People say, I "Could have" been speeding on the motorway.. Get the handcuffs out officer, guilty as accused..!!  The evidence is all there, my car is capable, so I MUST have done it..!!

Carl, we know for fact that Jane read Kev's msn conversations with other blonde members.  I don't think that's in dispute.

[Longines]

You imply she hacked into it, which is different to just accessing it.

Without authorisation for access, both are criminal offences under the Computer Misuse Act 1990 punishable by up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to 5,000.

[tikay]

That's it for tonight from me, I have to be elsewhere.

I will give long & hard consideration to the matter.

Within 48 hours I wll have come to a decision.

It will be.

1) Yes, remove Jane's modship.

2) No, I do not consider I should.

3) Given all the circumstances, suspend her Modship for the time being whilst I investigate all the rights & wrongs.

Whatever I decide - & I'll now seek the other Mods views, which I have not previously - I will have to convey my reasons to Jane.

Please debate it all you like, but if it gets out of hand, the thread will have to be closed. Nobody wants that.

[nirvana]

There's some horrible underlying issues in this whole saga but tragedy throws out comedy:

Is a modship on Blonde so major that a mod will cling onto powers like Maggie going for a second ballot and that so much hand wringing needs to go on about removal of mod status. Also, "de-modding" as a new entry into the language - it's all pretty lol, ridic even.

Jane did a bad thing (like so many others in this sorry ass tale), but sincerely, I hope her life can move forward postively even if she loses mod status - gotta be a helluva body blow that - lol, handwringaments.

[Claw75]

You imply she hacked into it, which is different to just accessing it.

Without authorisation for access, both are criminal offences under the Computer Misuse Act 1990 punishable by up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to 5,000.

I guess it comes down to what constitutes 'authorisation'.  If Jane had, for example, an administrator account on the computer which Kev knew about, that would probably be regarded as authorisation to access the information on it under the act. 

[nirvana]

I will give long & hard consideration to the matter.

Within 48 hours I wll have come to a decision.

Gets lollier

[byronkincaid]

That's it for tonight from me, I have to be elsewhere.

I will give long & hard consideration to the matter.

Within 48 hours I wll have come to a decision.

It will be.

1) Yes, remove Jane's modship.

2) No, I do not consider I should.

3) Given all the circumstances, suspend her Modship for the time being whilst I investigate all the rights & wrongs.

Whatever I decide - & I'll now seek the other Mods views, which I have not previously - I will have to convey my reasons to Jane.

Please debate it all you like, but if it gets out of hand, the thread will have to be closed. Nobody wants that.

£5 on number 3 please

[The Camel]

Have been given permission to post this from Kev...

 secondly
 Jane knew about the Laxie vid less than 1 minute after I saw it, She didnt actually watch the vid because I had no copy of it, but she knew exactly what it contained as I told her everything. Jane was disgusted at what I told her, but obviously not disgusted enough to tell Laxie until she had a major beef with me.

right there - thats all you need

This is incredibly disappointing.

[nirvana]

That's it for tonight from me, I have to be elsewhere.

I will give long & hard consideration to the matter.

Within 48 hours I wll have come to a decision.

It will be.

1) Yes, remove Jane's modship.

2) No, I do not consider I should.

3) Given all the circumstances, suspend her Modship for the time being whilst I investigate all the rights & wrongs.

Whatever I decide - & I'll now seek the other Mods views, which I have not previously - I will have to convey my reasons to Jane.

Please debate it all you like, but if it gets out of hand, the thread will have to be closed. Nobody wants that.

£5 on number 3 please

wp sir

[Shogun112]

I am seriously still sat here wondering why a number of people are still attacking the whistleblower and supporting the people who comitted the crime.  I guess the friendship is just too strong.  Its not enough to be caught for what they did, but, try lay the blame or reason onto someone else.  Never their own fault.  Whatever happend to having to take responsibility to your own actions.

[Josedinho]

Think Claw nails it. People probably aren't just annoyed that their PM's were being read just the fact that somebody that is in a position of trust on blonde could have read private information that were made by different methods of communication. If she unveilled some incriminating evidence then well done for bringing it to somebody's attention but if she suspected it was there contac the police , if not than going through somebody's converstations, txts or emails isn't the behaviour i would expect of a mod.
I know nobdy involved but Claw mentioned earlier that she had heard back something from one of her converstations getting back to her. Whether it was a conversation on blonde or not doesn't really matter. It's not asking for a hanging or even a banning people just don't think that's what a mod should be doing.

"Probably" and "Could Have" - that is interesting...!!   

I have a car that is capable of doing 150mph...  People say, I "Could have" been speeding on the motorway.. Get the handcuffs out officer, guilty as accused..!!  The evidence is all there, my car is capable, so I MUST have done it..!!

Carl, we know for fact that Jane read Kev's msn conversations with other blonde members.  I don't think that's in dispute.

Yeh used "probably" as i don't speak for everyone and "could have" as i don't have proof. Sounds like others do.

[mouth]

I am seriously still sat here wondering why a number of people are still attacking the whistleblower and supporting the people who comitted the crime.  I guess the friendship is just too strong.  Its not enough to be caught for what they did, but, try lay the blame or reason onto someone else.  Never their own fault.  Whatever happend to having to take responsibility to your own actions.

This is exactly what I cannot relate to. Laxie was sexually abused and people are worried that someone may have read their PMs?

It's not alleged - the guy admitted to it. (He was drunk.. the worse my exs did when drunk was piss the bed and I'd sure rather wake up in a puddle than with some fat twat filming me for all to see)

Certain people are going on about how it came to light and missing the main issues - something disgraceful happened here and PLENTY of Blonde members knew all about it and never said a word to the woman it happened to. Eventually someone had the decency to let her know and once she did find out, all the people who thought it was hysterical are suddenly all very busy shouting at Jane, Tikay, whoever, to avoid facing up to the fact they knew about a sexual assault and did nothing.

Turny for one seems to be really showing his true colours, calling Jane a bitch on here - sure would like you following me up a dark alley .

Every one of you who viewed that video should be ashamed of yourselves. People who were slightly more involved shouldn't even be here.

It's a police investigation now and unfortunately many sexual offences often don't get to court. If this should happen, you would all do well to remember the guy admitted to what he did, and admitted Laxie wasn't concious. If it doesn't get to court because of red tape, remember this. There's no alleged to it.

Pick your friends wisely and carefully. You've all been fooled once by Blatch, what makes you think this can't  happening again?