Apology to Tikay.

[turny]

I dunno, maybe my values are fcked up, but I really can't see there is much comparison between someone watching a video of a ALLEGED sexual assault and doing nothing about it and someone looking through an expartners chat files.

FYP

the difference is one is against the law of the country  and the other isnt. il leave u to decide which is which

It was my understanding the guy involved had admitted it, if I'm wrong, I apologise.

thats for the police or more importantly the crown prosecution to decide.
 whether a wasted drunken guy was right to admit something which he cant remember that clearly. he took the video yes but cirrcumstances leading up to it and surrounding it are imo still unclear.

as i say the police will act on the evidence uncovered and given to them.

[Bongo]

though it would be much easier to hide especially if in a position of power on the site the pms are sent

This is speculation and I don't think it's helpful, especially when it implies there are powers to help mods spy on people or similar - which isn't the case.

[tikay]

Guys, I'll Post shortly, & try to fill in some gaps, a lot of wrong assumptions are being made here.

In the meantime, it may be an idea to hold off.

Thanks.

[Dubai]

Where is Mikkyt these days?

[turny]

though it would be much easier to hide especially if in a position of power on the site the pms are sent

This is speculation and I don't think it's helpful, especially when it implies there are powers to help mods spy on people or similar - which isn't the case.

it just joins the million other bits of speculation spoken about on this thread

[Acidmouse]

People making an issue out of ginger still?"?

Lets get this straight, due to her actions and peoples perceptions of her; she wont be back to blonde in any capacity. Whether people want this official or not it don't really matter.

[Shogun112]

I'm not sure how Ginger can be defended. She invaded the privacy of Kev, and everyone else who has ever sent an email, pm or had a conversation with him. The fact that she found something incriminating is irrelevant to that fact. Personally, I have likely sent pms to Kev that I wouldn't want read, but there's a good chance they were, and for that person to continue as a mod is pretty disgraceful and a poor reflection on a community that I used to hold in such high regard.

Wow..!!!

Evidence??  You sure she did all the things u said she did, with exception to giving evidence to 2 crimes to the authorities..!!

I was once sat on a neighbours computer, fixing it, happened to see an open MSN chat window, saw a conversation I should not have seen.  Does not mean I read all her emails..!!

[byronkincaid]

Weather people want this official.

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[turny]

I'm not sure how Ginger can be defended. She invaded the privacy of Kev, and everyone else who has ever sent an email, pm or had a conversation with him. The fact that she found something incriminating is irrelevant to that fact. Personally, I have likely sent pms to Kev that I wouldn't want read, but there's a good chance they were, and for that person to continue as a mod is pretty disgraceful and a poor reflection on a community that I used to hold in such high regard.

Wow..!!!

Evidence??  You sure she did all the things u said she did, with exception to giving evidence to 2 crimes to the authorities..!!

I was once sat on a neighbours computer, fixing it, happened to see an open MSN chat window, saw a conversation I should not have seen.  Does not mean I read all her emails..!!

omg lol you had permission to be on it! you didnt hack into it did you, jesus christ what a stupid comparison!

[henrik777]

Weather people want this official.

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"Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way; well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't"

Sandy

[Shogun112]

Just a technical query which I'm not sure of - is it 'alleged' if the suspect has admitted it to the police? Anyone?

Technically, it is not alleged if the person admitted the crime to the police..  FACT..

[turny]

I'm not sure how Ginger can be defended. She invaded the privacy of Kev, and everyone else who has ever sent an email, pm or had a conversation with him. The fact that she found something incriminating is irrelevant to that fact. Personally, I have likely sent pms to Kev that I wouldn't want read, but there's a good chance they were, and for that person to continue as a mod is pretty disgraceful and a poor reflection on a community that I used to hold in such high regard.

Wow..!!!

Evidence??  You sure she did all the things u said she did, with exception to giving evidence to 2 crimes to the authorities..!!

I was once sat on a neighbours computer, fixing it, happened to see an open MSN chat window, saw a conversation I should not have seen.  Does not mean I read all her emails..!!

 "In what parralell universe would Bainn ever be calld the "authorities"

[Shogun112]

Wow..!!!
Evidence??  You sure she did all the things u said she did, with exception to giving evidence to 2 crimes to the authorities..!!

I was once sat on a neighbours computer, fixing it, happened to see an open MSN chat window, saw a conversation I should not have seen.  Does not mean I read all her emails..!!

omg lol you had permission to be on it! you didnt hack into it did you, jesus christ what a stupid comparison!
[/quote]

I understand this computer you are talking about as a private computer, was in fact a communal family desktop computer used by all...  The fact that person who owned the cumputer was not living at that house any more does not suddenly change the access rights of the people still in that house who were all previously using the computer with permission..  But I am sure you will not agree with that either..!! Invasion of privacy - I think not..!!

From what I can see, you are blaming people for bringing offences forward or being as saintly as yourself rather than your friends for being caught..!!

[Royal Flush]

Weather people want this official.

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"Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way; well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't"

Sandy

There wasn't a hurricane, it was pretty windy though.

[tikay]

I don't quite know where to begin, & what to address.

I'll make a few points though.

Please note I am working elsewhere tonight,(Online), so I only have so much time before then.

There is a lot of noise suggesting the Mods were/are handling this badly.

Perhaps, perhaps not, but that disguises the actual position.

The Mods as a whole are not party to the wider information.

They only know, pretty much, what everyone else does.

That was a deliberate decision that Tighty & I made jointly.

Their input to the various threads is only on the periphery, to lock threads when it gets out of hand, to execute normal mod husbandry.

They are privy to very little info about the matters, hardly more than any regular Member. They will confirm this if asked, I believe.

The main position, & decisions, in this, are not of the Mods as a whole.

So the various abuse & criticism being thrown at them in this & other threads is not appropriate.

All they are doing is thread husbandry.

The wider matters have been largely restricted to Tighty & myself.

In the week leading up to "that" Sunday, Tighty & Kev had a lot of convos via various written means, as the stories unfolded. Given the content, Tighty was obliged to share them with me. He or I have not shared that with the other Mods.

As far as I know, I have seen everything Tighty has seen, the other Mods have not seen any of the "evidence".

Tighty is also in a bit of a spot, as not everyone may think he can be wholly objective on all the matters, especially as to Jane. I think he can & is, but the perception may be otherwise, perhaps understandably. 

That just leaves me, then.

More soon, bear with me please.

PS - I did ask you to hold off whilst I made a few Posts. It would be helpful to all if you did.