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« on: September 15, 2010, 02:34:10 PM » |
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Hi guys..... Cropped up last night. Blinds 5k-10k....1st to act goes allin for 17k.....2nd to act wants to min raise....is the min. raise 27k (10 +7+10) or 24k (10+7+7) or 30K cos that is what a min. 3 bet would be?  Cheers Mark |
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celtic
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 02:37:01 PM » |
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24k imo. Depend where you play though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 02:39:54 PM » |
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24k imo. Depend where you play though.
nah, you can t be raising less than a bb from a full stack |
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 02:41:25 PM » |
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what if he d gone ai for 10,100. would you say a 3 bet to 10,200, 4b to 10,300 and 5b to 10,400 is fine? obv ridic
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celtic
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 02:56:16 PM » |
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Well spotted.27k then?
Alternatively just shoot the person that wants to min raise?
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 02:57:05 PM » |
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His all in is an under-raise so doesn't count for the purposes of raising/re-opening action. It does however change the bet facing a player, and that bet is now 17k. The minimum raise is still 10k. 17k+10k = 27k.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 05:41:16 PM » |
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Well spotted.27k then?
Alternatively just shoot the person that wants to min raise?
+1 use of a bazooka prefered |
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 05:51:13 PM » |
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Well spotted.27k then?
Alternatively just shoot the person that wants to min raise?
+1 use of a bazooka prefered Also suitable for folk who post in blue.  |
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 11:31:07 AM » |
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His all in is an under-raise so doesn't count for the purposes of raising/re-opening action. It does however change the bet facing a player, and that bet is now 17k. The minimum raise is still 10k. 17k+10k = 27k.
Wish id never read this thread, all thats happened is that Iv agreed with CF |
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 12:13:08 PM » |
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pretty sure its 20K
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 12:29:16 PM » |
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People underestimate the power of the min raise
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2010, 01:18:52 PM » |
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pretty sure its 20K
I was given to understand once that if the under raise is under 50% of a bb then the min raise stands to be 2x bb still, but if it isnt, then it has to be 1bb on top of the under raise? leeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeel |
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2010, 01:26:22 PM » |
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pretty sure its 20K
I was given to understand once that if the under raise is under 50% of a bb then the min raise stands to be 2x bb still, but if it isnt, then it has to be 1bb on top of the under raise? leeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeel that doesn`t really make sense as by definition an underraise is under the 50% mark. over 50% and it`s not an underraise, it`s a raise |
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2010, 02:43:12 PM » |
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pretty sure its 20K
That's what I think too. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 02:47:23 PM » |
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pretty sure its 20K
I was given to understand once that if the under raise is under 50% of a bb then the min raise stands to be 2x bb still, but if it isnt, then it has to be 1bb on top of the under raise? leeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeel that doesn`t really make sense as by definition an underraise is under the 50% mark. over 50% and it`s not an underraise, it`s a raise yes it does. under raise is raise by less than 100% of the bb. less than 50% would be less than 15k in this instance. |
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