Luton & The Aftermath - Diary

[Geo the Sarge]

how about the fridge, tv, radio and radar

I saw the blue plaque on the front of a house in Central London where JLB invented the television. It's opposite a cracking Indian I went to with Longy, Gatso, Mondatoo, Delboy & Simon Galloway.

When you think about it, Scottish people invented some of the greatest stuff we have. Englanders should be truly greatful

lol but when they were invented they were all useless.

Fridge; Too cold in Scotland to actually bloody need it
TV, but you couldn't get a decent reception with all the hills and shitty weather. (And it wasn't actually invented by a Scot as Edwin Belin (Very much English) was 2 years before Baird.
Radio; was invented by Marconi and until Stephen Fry tells me otherwise that's what I perceive to be correct.

This.  The Scots like to believe and claim they invented lots of things that they unfortunately didn't - most notably the phone and the TV.  They did however invent lots of other things.  Irn Bru being one of the best, obviously.

Much the same as Vinny claiming that Celtic sang YNWA before Liverpool did.  That sure is the case.

Lol

This goes for so many inventions claimed by many different nationalities, but of course it suits Dan to just say the Scots -gtfo Boshi

Geo

[boldie]

how about the fridge, tv, radio and radar

I saw the blue plaque on the front of a house in Central London where JLB invented the television. It's opposite a cracking Indian I went to with Longy, Gatso, Mondatoo, Delboy & Simon Galloway.

When you think about it, Scottish people invented some of the greatest stuff we have. Englanders should be truly greatful

lol but when they were invented they were all useless.

Fridge; Too cold in Scotland to actually bloody need it
TV, but you couldn't get a decent reception with all the hills and shitty weather. (And it wasn't actually invented by a Scot as Edwin Belin (Very much English) was 2 years before Baird.
Radio; was invented by Marconi and until Stephen Fry tells me otherwise that's what I perceive to be correct.

This.  The Scots like to believe and claim they invented lots of things that they unfortunately didn't - most notably the phone and the TV.  They did however invent lots of other things.  Irn Bru being one of the best, obviously.

Much the same as Vinny claiming that Celtic sang YNWA before Liverpool did.  That sure is the case.

Lol

This goes for so many inventions claimed by many different nationalities, but of course it suits Dan to just say the Scots -gtfo Boshi

Geo

True but the Telly was not invented by a Scot, contrary to popular belief in Scotland. Whenever you watch BBC Scotland or Reporting Scotland there is always some story or program about "How Scotland was the greatest nation in the world and invented everything"..it's bollox and not accurate reporting...though obviously not an awful lot better can be expected from the BBC News' D team of reporters.

[Bongo]

TV was clearly invented by the great British inventor John Logie Baird whereas deep fried mars bars were clearly invented by a Scottish inventor...

[the sicilian]

TV was clearly invented by the great British inventor John Logie Baird whereas deep fried mars bars were clearly invented by a Scottish inventor... Vince

FYP

[kinboshi]

how about the fridge, tv, radio and radar

I saw the blue plaque on the front of a house in Central London where JLB invented the television. It's opposite a cracking Indian I went to with Longy, Gatso, Mondatoo, Delboy & Simon Galloway.

When you think about it, Scottish people invented some of the greatest stuff we have. Englanders should be truly greatful

lol but when they were invented they were all useless.

Fridge; Too cold in Scotland to actually bloody need it
TV, but you couldn't get a decent reception with all the hills and shitty weather. (And it wasn't actually invented by a Scot as Edwin Belin (Very much English) was 2 years before Baird.
Radio; was invented by Marconi and until Stephen Fry tells me otherwise that's what I perceive to be correct.

This.  The Scots like to believe and claim they invented lots of things that they unfortunately didn't - most notably the phone and the TV.  They did however invent lots of other things.  Irn Bru being one of the best, obviously.

Much the same as Vinny claiming that Celtic sang YNWA before Liverpool did.  That sure is the case.

Lol

This goes for so many inventions claimed by many different nationalities, but of course it suits Dan to just say the Scots -gtfo Boshi

Geo

Whisky is another.

As is the kilt, oh and bagpipes.

Tarmac is a Welsh invention.

Rab C Nesbitt was invented in Scotland though - you can have that one.

[kinboshi]

Pub Football - you can have that one too. 

[77dave]

Apologies for starting the Scottish arguements i wasnt aware that other people read this diary

[relaedgc]

Apologies for starting the Scottish arguements i wasnt aware that other people read this diary

 

[Rod Paradise]

how about the fridge, tv, radio and radar

I saw the blue plaque on the front of a house in Central London where JLB invented the television. It's opposite a cracking Indian I went to with Longy, Gatso, Mondatoo, Delboy & Simon Galloway.

When you think about it, Scottish people invented some of the greatest stuff we have. Englanders should be truly greatful

lol but when they were invented they were all useless.

Fridge; Too cold in Scotland to actually bloody need it
TV, but you couldn't get a decent reception with all the hills and shitty weather. (And it wasn't actually invented by a Scot as Edwin Belin (Very much English) was 2 years before Baird.
Radio; was invented by Marconi and until Stephen Fry tells me otherwise that's what I perceive to be correct.

This.  The Scots like to believe and claim they invented lots of things that they unfortunately didn't - most notably the phone and the TV.  They did however invent lots of other things.  Irn Bru being one of the best, obviously.

Much the same as Vinny claiming that Celtic sang YNWA before Liverpool did.  That sure is the case.

Lol

This goes for so many inventions claimed by many different nationalities, but of course it suits Dan to just say the Scots -gtfo Boshi

Geo

Whisky is another.

As is the kilt, oh and bagpipes.

Tarmac is a Welsh invention.

Rab C Nesbitt was invented in Scotland though - you can have that one.

Whisky? Arguable - distilled spirits which would not be recognisable as what we know as whisky (or whiskey) was Celtic in origin, as the Celts spread to Scotland via Ireland something was probably made by the Irish first, the current triple distilled & matured whisky was from the Western Isles though.

The kilt? I suppose the egyptians wore a similar garment, but I doubt that it was tartan.

Tarmac - possibly the Tar bit (although tar as a road surface dates back to ancient Baghdad)- the mac was Mr MacAdam & Scottish.

Anyway - anothe famous Scot - Scrooge McDuck & his American descendant came up with a few originals of his own..... http://www.cracked.com/article_19021_5-amazing-things-invented-by-donald-duck-seriously.html

[Geo the Sarge]

how about the fridge, tv, radio and radar

I saw the blue plaque on the front of a house in Central London where JLB invented the television. It's opposite a cracking Indian I went to with Longy, Gatso, Mondatoo, Delboy & Simon Galloway.

When you think about it, Scottish people invented some of the greatest stuff we have. Englanders should be truly greatful

lol but when they were invented they were all useless.

Fridge; Too cold in Scotland to actually bloody need it
TV, but you couldn't get a decent reception with all the hills and shitty weather. (And it wasn't actually invented by a Scot as Edwin Belin (Very much English) was 2 years before Baird.
Radio; was invented by Marconi and until Stephen Fry tells me otherwise that's what I perceive to be correct.

This.  The Scots like to believe and claim they invented lots of things that they unfortunately didn't - most notably the phone and the TV.  They did however invent lots of other things.  Irn Bru being one of the best, obviously.

Much the same as Vinny claiming that Celtic sang YNWA before Liverpool did.  That sure is the case.

Lol

This goes for so many inventions claimed by many different nationalities, but of course it suits Dan to just say the Scots -gtfo Boshi

Geo

Whisky is another.

As is the kilt, oh and bagpipes.

Tarmac is a Welsh invention.

Rab C Nesbitt was invented in Scotland though - you can have that one.

Not quite:

On 26 July 1904, Hooley obtained a patent for an apparatus for the preparation of tar macadam, intended as an improvement to existing methods of preparing tar macadam.[5]

Tarmacadam already existed

Geo

[celtic]

Doesn't really matter Geo if they were English. Scotland invented England innit, so they all originate from there anyway

[Girgy85]

Can u tell us more of your appearence with Cos on TRH? How was it set up/filmed/staged etc? How much were u paid? Also how fit is JJC in real life?

[the sicilian]

PAID !!!! lmfao...sure did

[boldie]

Whisky. From QI/stephen Fry and therefore true; (5)The Chinese were in fact the first to discover whisky, but it was first (independently) invented in Europe by the Italians in the 12th Century.

As is the kilt, oh and bagpipes. .Clan tartans were invented by the English (6).


The telephone was invented by Antonio Meucci, an Italian-American, from whom Alexander Graham Bell outrageously stole the patent application and copied it.

the Scots are creditted with inventing Tarmac.


From the QI forum part of what Stephen said on QI

What’s interesting about Scotland, kilts, bagpipes, haggis, porridge, whisky and tartan?

None of them are Scottish.

Scotland is named after the Scoti, a Celtic tribe from Ireland, who arrived in what the Romans called Caledonia in the fifth or sixth century AD. By the 11th century they dominated the whole of mainland Scotland. ‘Scots Gaelic’ is actually a dialect of Irish.

Kilts were invented by the Irish but word ‘kilt’ is Danish (kilte op, ‘tuck up’ )

The bagpipes are ancient and were probably invented in Central Asia. They are mentioned in the Old Testament (Daniel 3: 5, 10,15) and in Greek poetry of the 4th century BC. The Romans probably brought them to Britain but the earliest Pictish carvings date from the 8th century AD.

Haggis was an Ancient Greek sausage (Aristophanes mentions one exploding in The Clouds in 423BC).

Oat porridge has been found in the stomachs of 5,000 year old Neolithic bog bodies in central Europe and Scandinavia.

Whisky was invented in ancient China. It arrived in Ireland before Scotland, first distilled by monks. The word derives from the Irish uisge beatha, from the Latin aqua vitae or ‘water of life’.

The elaborate system of clan tartans is a complete myth stemming from the early nineteenth century. All Highland dress, including what tartan or plaid there was, was banned after the 1745 rebellion. The English garrison regiments started designing their own tartans as an affectation, and to mark the state visit of King George IV to Edinburgh in 1822. Queen Victoria encouraged the trend, and it soon became a Victorian craze.

Having said a’ that, they’ve nae been idle, ye ken. Scots inventions and discoveries include: adhesive stamps; the Bank of England; bicycle pedals; the Breech-loading rifle; Bovril; the cell nucleus; chloroform; the cloud chamber; colour photography; cornflour; the cure for malaria; the decimal point; the Encyclopaedia Britannica; electro-magnetism; the fountain pen; finger-printing; Hypnosis. Hypodermic syringes. Insulin. Kaleidoscope. Kelvin scale. The lawnmower; lime cordial; logarithms; lorries; marmalade; motor insurance; the MRI scanner; the paddle steamer; paraffin; piano pedals; the postmark; pneumatic tyres; radar; the reflecting telescope; savings banks; the screw propeller; the speedometer; the steam hammer; the raincoat; tarmac; the teleprinter; tubular steel; the typhoid vaccine; the ultrasound scanner; the United States Navy; Universal Standard Time; vacuum flasks; wave-powered electricity generators and wire rope.

[Rod Paradise]

Whisky. From QI/stephen Fry and therefore true; (5)The Chinese were in fact the first to discover whisky, but it was first (independently) invented in Europe by the Italians in the 12th Century.

As is the kilt, oh and bagpipes. .Clan tartans were invented by the English (6).


The telephone was invented by Antonio Meucci, an Italian-American, from whom Alexander Graham Bell outrageously stole the patent application and copied it.

the Scots are creditted with inventing Tarmac.


From the QI forum part of what Stephen said on QI

What’s interesting about Scotland, kilts, bagpipes, haggis, porridge, whisky and tartan?

None of them are Scottish.

Scotland is named after the Scoti, a Celtic tribe from Ireland, who arrived in what the Romans called Caledonia in the fifth or sixth century AD. By the 11th century they dominated the whole of mainland Scotland. ‘Scots Gaelic’ is actually a dialect of Irish.

Kilts were invented by the Irish but word ‘kilt’ is Danish (kilte op, ‘tuck up’ )

The bagpipes are ancient and were probably invented in Central Asia. They are mentioned in the Old Testament (Daniel 3: 5, 10,15) and in Greek poetry of the 4th century BC. The Romans probably brought them to Britain but the earliest Pictish carvings date from the 8th century AD.

Haggis was an Ancient Greek sausage (Aristophanes mentions one exploding in The Clouds in 423BC).

Oat porridge has been found in the stomachs of 5,000 year old Neolithic bog bodies in central Europe and Scandinavia.

Whisky was invented in ancient China. It arrived in Ireland before Scotland, first distilled by monks. The word derives from the Irish uisge beatha, from the Latin aqua vitae or ‘water of life’.

The elaborate system of clan tartans is a complete myth stemming from the early nineteenth century. All Highland dress, including what tartan or plaid there was, was banned after the 1745 rebellion. The English garrison regiments started designing their own tartans as an affectation, and to mark the state visit of King George IV to Edinburgh in 1822. Queen Victoria encouraged the trend, and it soon became a Victorian craze.

Having said a’ that, they’ve nae been idle, ye ken. Scots inventions and discoveries include: adhesive stamps; the Bank of England; bicycle pedals; the Breech-loading rifle; Bovril; the cell nucleus; chloroform; the cloud chamber; colour photography; cornflour; the cure for malaria; the decimal point; the Encyclopaedia Britannica; electro-magnetism; the fountain pen; finger-printing; Hypnosis. Hypodermic syringes. Insulin. Kaleidoscope. Kelvin scale. The lawnmower; lime cordial; logarithms; lorries; marmalade; motor insurance; the MRI scanner; the paddle steamer; paraffin; piano pedals; the postmark; pneumatic tyres; radar; the reflecting telescope; savings banks; the screw propeller; the speedometer; the steam hammer; the raincoat; tarmac; the teleprinter; tubular steel; the typhoid vaccine; the ultrasound scanner; the United States Navy; Universal Standard Time; vacuum flasks; wave-powered electricity generators and wire rope.

So they banned the kilt, then invented it - that was clever.... so by changing something they can claim to have invented it? Well we can have whisky then, unless the Chinese & Italians produced a peat smoked, triple distilled aged single malt, I'm not buying them getting the credit for whisky.

As with a lot of these 'who invented' arguments - it depends on what makes it unique. Mr Fry is using one side of the argument to make the point about the kilt, but the other side to make his point about porridge, whisky & haggis. Lazy work by him, or his writers.