Prose from a Poshboy

[jgcblack]

Money has literally nothing to do with happiness. 

Nonsense.

I'm currently somewhere where £3k would literally be someone's entire family wealth, including possesions, land and job.

These are some of the happiest people I have ever met, so friendly, helpful, happy, smiley people and its all to do with their outlook and their own attitudes.  They know they don't have 'everything' because it drives past them in a brand new Hummer every other day and it gives them jobs cleaning the 'spare' house.


I've met a guy who'd travelled for 10 months around the world on less than £2k, he was an absolute legend.  So happy and so content.

I know what you mean Dubai, I'd in fact never even heard of that movie but then watched it after your previous quoting (vwp sir) but I acknowledge only this -

Money basically = more choices.

It doesn't mean you'll make the right choices, it doesn't mean the choices you make will make you happy.  Money only allows you to have more of them if you choose it..

People all know that we 'live within our means' and that a new +£20k/ year bonus won't actually go further, you'll just have a 5* holiday instead of 3, or you'll get a new BMW instead of finance, you'll go to Vegas instead of the The Vic. 


Alex, I think you could easily have spent every penny you'd earned/ won/ luckboxed all on a house or two and still be the guy who started this thread.  You'd have the same amount of money you have now, the same amount of options.  But you'd have not taken the trips or had the experiences you have and it would all be in the bank.


Your choices are what make your life.  Money is a mere participant - end of.

[Woodsey]

I honestly reckon most people don't get the money v happiness thing until they get a bit older.

I reckon I had my light bulb moment when I was in my mid-ish 30's, and it really takes you that long to suss it out for your self. As arrogant as it sounds I would pretty much dismiss anyone's opinion on the subject until they are probably late 20's at least and have had a fair bit of life experience.

Expecting a bit of hate on this post, but there you go 

[jgcblack]

I honestly reckon most people don't get the money v happiness thing until they get a bit older.

I reckon I had my light bulb moment when I was in my mid-ish 30's, and it really takes you that long to suss it out for your self. As arrogant as it sounds I would pretty much dismiss anyone's opinion on the subject until they are probably late 20's at least and have had a fair bit of life experience.

Entirely fair imo, my opinions and thoughts and ideas have changed a lot in the last few years and I'm only 26.  I can't imagine what crap I'll be shouting about in a few more!

[AlunB]

I'm in my 30s so am I allowed a view?

I think lildave nailed it. It's all utterly subjective. You can't tell someone what makes them happy, they have to figure it out for themselves. And there are some desperately poor people in the world who don't have enough money to feed their families. I'm sure they find happiness in life, but to say money would make literally no difference is insulting.

I do totally agree that beyond a certain level then money makes no difference, but that's just for me. And my level is probably different to yours or dave's or anyone else.

[Tal]

Health before wealth, but money is blummin great to have.

Too many weird things make me - as we say in my part of the world - happy as a pig in muck. This is one. No idea why, but I can't watch if without having a massive smile on my face.



And no I'm not enormously into energy deals!

[SuuPRlim]

I honestly reckon most people don't get the money v happiness thing until they get a bit older.

I reckon I had my light bulb moment when I was in my mid-ish 30's, and it really takes you that long to suss it out for your self

Thing is Woodsey, your light-bulb moment at 35~ came at a time in your life when you were ... 35! By this point you're a different person to who you were when you were 25. So having your 35 year old light bulb moment at 25 is pretty pointless no?

The way you view life, the things that motivate you and make you happy at 25, will likely by different to when you're 35.

As arrogant as it sounds I would pretty much dismiss anyone's opinion on the subject until they are probably late 20's at least and have had a fair bit of life experience

How can you dismiss someone's opinion on a matter that is entirely personal and subjective. I'm 24, I don't like coffee, you could tell me I'm wrong coffee is great wait till i'm 35 I'll be drinking coffee every day. This might be the case but I almost certainly won't be drinking coffee any coffee next week.

If money makes you happy, then ffs go out and try get as much of it as possible, if it's genuinely something thaat doesn't motivate you then you can spend less time trying to make money and more time doing whatever does make you happy.

[Woodsey]

I honestly reckon most people don't get the money v happiness thing until they get a bit older.

I reckon I had my light bulb moment when I was in my mid-ish 30's, and it really takes you that long to suss it out for your self

Thing is Woodsey, your light-bulb moment at 35~ came at a time in your life when you were ... 35! By this point you're a different person to who you were when you were 25. So having your 35 year old light bulb moment at 25 is pretty pointless no?

The way you view life, the things that motivate you and make you happy at 25, will likely by different to when you're 35.

As arrogant as it sounds I would pretty much dismiss anyone's opinion on the subject until they are probably late 20's at least and have had a fair bit of life experience

How can you dismiss someone's opinion on a matter that is entirely personal and subjective. I'm 24, I don't like coffee, you could tell me I'm wrong coffee is great wait till i'm 35 I'll be drinking coffee every day. This might be the case but I almost certainly won't be drinking coffee any coffee next week.

If money makes you happy, then ffs go out and try get as much of it as possible, if it's genuinely something thaat doesn't motivate you then you can spend less time trying to make money and more time doing whatever does make you happy.

So your agreeing with me 

Trust me, as long as you ain't busto in 10 years or whatever, your money v happiness opinion will have changed.

[AlunB]

Your opinion will likely have changed in 10-15 years too. We're all changing all the time. It doesn't stop once we leave our 20s.

[Woodsey]

Your opinion will likely have changed in 10-15 years too. We're all changing all the time. It doesn't stop once we leave our 20s.

Yes I agree.

[horseplayer]

i gave up a decent job in a bank in my early/mid twenties to bet on horses most days for almost certainly less money

am i a bit mad ? probably

am i a lot happier? yes

[Doobs]

This really is unadulterated drivel.

I only started becoming happy when I realised that everything was never going to be as good as it could be.  Things aren't ever going to be perfect, and the sooner you get it then the sooner you can settle and enjoy what you have.

I really couldn't disagree with you more. In fact what you've described as settling and enjoying what you have, is what I would call un-ambition,

Thing is though it's just all your own personal perception and how you want to live and what makes you happy. So it's actually impossible to say one is X, the other thing is Drivel etc. it's all just what you think and believe.

There is a chance I'll agree with what you've written above in X years, but right now I don't. If anything saying that one person's opinions on life are drivel is actually pretty ignorant. It's impossible to be right or wrong with this stuff.

This is what your fridge magnet says

A man with limits will often be content, a man with no limits should never be.

It doesn't say a man with no limits may never be content, it says he should never be. 

I am not the one saying what people should do to be content, it is you.  The very statement you made is one that is very black and white on this.   Amusing that you post this up, and then accuse me of been too black and white.   

I have not made as much as I could have done, have not progessed as far as I could have done, but what I have done is enough to make me content.  Your "belief" is that I should never be content, but I am.  You simply do not have to have everything you want, or could want in the future, to be content right now.   I am not saying I am as content as I could be, but I am content enough for me.

Over time I have realised that you carry on aspiring to better things, you do realise you could have done things better, but all that doesn't mean you shouldn't be content with where you are now.  Beating yourself up because life hasn't gone as well as you hoped, or that you haven't achieved all the things you could have is a pretty negative way to look on life.  It is the very way I used to be when I was younger.

I was extremely ambitious for a time and have worked pretty damn hard for significant preriods of my life.  At no stage have I chosen to limit what I can do.   

I am also not saying that money is a terrible thing, it clearly isn't.  As Alex has said, it gives you more choices, and I am much happier now than I would be if I didn't have a pot to piss in.  But driving yourself as hard as you could, for as long as you could, is a fairly destructive thing.  And would I really be a much more content if I had another bedroom, or a bit more land, or a newer car or if I could turn left every time I went on an aeroplane?  Not to any significant extent.     

And if this saying was indeed your "opinion on life", then I think you have a problem, but it clearly isn't. It is just a badly worded throw away piece of prose you liked a bit.   I wouldn't get so attached to it that you view someone dismissing something you liked as drivel as a personal affront to yourself.  I am sure your opinion on life must run a bit deeper, as does mine.

Cheers.

Unambitious and Ignorant of Cambridgeshire.

[Tal]

Groucho Marx once said "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made."

[celtic]

Del boy once said. There's none so blind, than those that won't listen.

[jakally]

Del boy once said. There's none so blind, than those that won't listen.

Get this on a fridge magnet - we could sell tons of 'em and make lots of money. Then we would be happy.

[claypole]

i gave up a decent job in a bank in my early/mid twenties to bet on horses most days for almost certainly less money

am i a bit mad ? probably

am i a lot happier? yes

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