Prose from a Poshboy

[cambridgealex]

That screenshot is Holly playing on Ongame right?

I'll tell Holly to stop using those data-mining sites

I didn't know about any of this, if I did I would GIQ obv and not naively post about it on here!

[tteeeeee]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

[SuuPRlim]

whats BWIN's policy on multi-accounting?

Tell Holly to get her own account imo

[RED-DOG]

There are a lot of things that people have the same opportunity to do, doesn't mean they are ethical or even legal.

My issue with it is you are gaining information on people without ever sitting on the table with them. This information you could not possible attain without paying for it

He said he did pay for it....

[tikay]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

[paulpitchford]

I don't think there is much difference here than getting info on your opponent from a delayed live feed. I don't like it myself but I think you'd be silly not to take advantage of the situation.

I don't play online much so have never bought hh's. If I was serious about playing online for a living I definitely would though. I remember being at a seminar once where Paul Jackson was speaking and he basically suggested that if you were playing online for a living and weren't buying hh's, you were putting yourself in a -ev situation because most online regs were buying them!

[tteeeeee]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

No Tikay.

If you have played football you will know there are 22 players on the pitch trying to gain an edge for 90 mins against their opponents using the referee to gain advantages, appealing for throw ins and free kicks and hundreds of other things that they know is not rightly theirs or there teams. whether we like it or not its part of the game. Same with online poker, its the online poker sites that are inviting data mining/hand histories by the way they are set up. Webmasters could easily set poker sites up which do not allow data mining but it would be less profitable for them so they don't.

The difference in attitude comes down to whether you want to avoid relegation and be a mid table team, or whether you want to be the best & most successful at what you do. How much do you want it? If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

[outragous76]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

No Tikay.

If you have played football you will know there are 22 players on the pitch trying to gain an edge for 90 mins against their opponents using the referee to gain advantages, appealing for throw ins and free kicks and hundreds of other things that they know is not rightly theirs or there teams. whether we like it or not its part of the game. Same with online poker, its the online poker sites that are inviting data mining/hand histories by the way they are set up.

pure comdey right there wpwp!

[cambridgealex]

Put in really decent volume yesterday (about 1800 hands) but lost about 500 for the day. Didn't play very well, spewed off in a couple of spots and I'm starting to find some leaks in a few spots that I'm not sure what to do about. Put up 4 or 5 HHs on the PHA and got a pretty hard time (which is what I wanted). Not sure where to go from here though.

It's the concept of balance that I'm finding a bit tricky. In some spots it's hard not to be super unbalanced. But I kept getting the feeling yesterday that the regs had worked out how unbalanced I was in these spots and were playing perfectly. I'm talking about this common scenario. Reg raises the CO, I 3b from the blinds. I do this a lot, probably too much. They call. 993r I bet they call. 2 on the turn. In this case, I usually give up on all my bluffs and barrel my value hands. So it's super profitable for the reg to float the flop with any two then fold the turn if I bet again, or bet the turn if I check.

What can I do about this?

a) check the turn with more value hands. big problem with that is you give them the chance to check back all their medium pairs and medium strength showdown hands so missing a street of value.

b) barrel the turn and river more. problem - bad cards to barrel, we're just mashing buttons really and regs can easily just call us down with 77 and be correct most of the time.

c) 3b less oop so I don't get in these situations. Probably a good idea. That would mean flatting more often with big hands oop - don't really like doing but it's something I could experiment with.

d) more options would be nice

I've always wondered about this, since I started playing 1/2 at dtd with regs. spots where you both know that an offsuit 2 is a bad card to barrel, so it just becomes a levelling war and yr either super unbalanced and exploitable, or your just barrelling off too much. Hmmm....

[doubleup]

If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

Doubt you will be ever be the best at anything if your attitude is to cut corners and cheat if you think you can get away with it.

[RED-DOG]

If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

Doubt you will be ever be the best at anything if your attitude is to cut corners and cheat if you think you can get away with it.

What if you want to be the best at cutting corners and cheating?

[tikay]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

No Tikay.

If you have played football you will know there are 22 players on the pitch trying to gain an edge for 90 mins against their opponents using the referee to gain advantages, appealing for throw ins and free kicks and hundreds of other things that they know is not rightly theirs or there teams. whether we like it or not its part of the game. Same with online poker, its the online poker sites that are inviting data mining/hand histories by the way they are set up. Webmasters could easily set poker sites up which do not allow data mining but it would be less profitable for them so they don't.The difference in attitude comes down to whether you want to avoid relegation and be a mid table team, or whether you want to be the best & most successful at what you do. How much do you want it? If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

Incorrect. Some sites - I could deffo name one - do NOT allow data mining, & you may be absolutely, 100% assured, it does NOT affect their profitability. Well, not negatively......

[cambridgealex]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

No Tikay.

If you have played football you will know there are 22 players on the pitch trying to gain an edge for 90 mins against their opponents using the referee to gain advantages, appealing for throw ins and free kicks and hundreds of other things that they know is not rightly theirs or there teams. whether we like it or not its part of the game. Same with online poker, its the online poker sites that are inviting data mining/hand histories by the way they are set up. Webmasters could easily set poker sites up which do not allow data mining but it would be less profitable for them so they don't.The difference in attitude comes down to whether you want to avoid relegation and be a mid table team, or whether you want to be the best & most successful at what you do. How much do you want it? If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

Some sites - I could deffo name one - do NOT allow data mining, & you may be absolutely, 100% assured, it does NOT affect their profitability. Well, not negatively......

poker encore?

[tikay]

nothing wrong or illegal with it.

If you dont buy hh's then you're at a disadvantage

Rather like in, say, football, "if you don't cheat then you're at a disadvantage".....?

No Tikay.

If you have played football you will know there are 22 players on the pitch trying to gain an edge for 90 mins against their opponents using the referee to gain advantages, appealing for throw ins and free kicks and hundreds of other things that they know is not rightly theirs or there teams. whether we like it or not its part of the game. Same with online poker, its the online poker sites that are inviting data mining/hand histories by the way they are set up. Webmasters could easily set poker sites up which do not allow data mining but it would be less profitable for them so they don't.The difference in attitude comes down to whether you want to avoid relegation and be a mid table team, or whether you want to be the best & most successful at what you do. How much do you want it? If you want to be among the best online players you HAVE to have huge amount of hand histories against current opponents & opponents you are yet to meet.

Some sites - I could deffo name one - do NOT allow data mining, & you may be absolutely, 100% assured, it does NOT affect their profitability. Well, not negatively......

poker encore?

Quiet, you, you think you OWN this Diary? Oh, wait.....

[th777]

PMSL at your cat turning your comp on standby, following the cursor on screen etc.......i have 3 cats and when
i'm cooking during breaks bella(cat) always moves all in for me.....f$%ing cat only has 1 gear though......