Prose from a Poshboy

[atdc21]

Hi Alex,
How much would you need to earn(over there)(or think you could earn) for you to consider going to vegas for 3 months, or would you not be tempted to do that?

[Honeybadger]

The trouble is NLH cash games always die because the winners win at too great a rate. Twas ever thus- Doyle says this in his autobiography, and Barry G says the same thing in "Ace on the River". That's why Vegas casinos invented limit games.

Yep, I completely agree with this. No Limit Hold'em is a 'flawed' game for this reason IMO. The weak players do not have a puncher's chance in anything other than the very short-term, and so the games die too quickly. Please keep in mind that I LOVE No Limit Hold'em: I have played it live for my entire poker career, and I have played well over a million hands of it online. So I don't have an anti-Hold'em bias. But it sucks as a game that can be sustained in the long-term unless there are ridiculous supplies of new weak players coming in all the time.

Two solutions to this:

1. Learn to play ALL the games well. For example, PLO is a much more sustainable game in the long-term because your edge vs a weak player in any one hand/session is smaller. Having a smaller edge sounds like a bad thing to a professional player at first glance, but actually it is a GOOD THING in the long-term.

2. When you do play No Limit Hold'em, play it in a different way - a way designed to give the weak players a bit more of a chance in the short-term. I have already written a lot about this so am not going to repeat myself.

[kinboshi]

2. When you do play No Limit Hold'em, play it in a different way - a way designed to give the weak players a bit more of a chance in the short-term. I have already written a lot about this so am not going to repeat myself.

This bit is key - especially this evening Alex

[cambridgealex]

2. When you do play No Limit Hold'em, play it in a different way - a way designed to give the weak players a bit more of a chance in the short-term. I have already written a lot about this so am not going to repeat myself.

This bit is key - especially this evening Alex

Ok, half a bacon roll at a time then

[kinboshi]

2. When you do play No Limit Hold'em, play it in a different way - a way designed to give the weak players a bit more of a chance in the short-term. I have already written a lot about this so am not going to repeat myself.

This bit is key - especially this evening Alex

Ok, half a bacon roll at a time then

It's OK, I'm happy to play hu4baconrolls

[EvilPie]

Seriously Alex. At your age, with your commitments and your love for poker, if you do anything other than clear off to Vegas for 6 months you want your head looking at.

[cambridgealex]

Seriously Alex. At your age, with your commitments and your love for poker, if you do anything other than clear off to Vegas for 6 months you want your head looking at.

lol bit extreme!

[EvilPie]

3 months?

[bobAlike]

FWIW I think Matt is right. 6 months min IMO. If you can't get what you want from the UK then you have to go where you can. Cash games on tap (so I'm told) and they do have the interwebs for volume.

I was going to suggest the Broadway but don't want you killing the games there.

[cambridgealex]

i don't wanna go to vegas for 6months! or even 3! I love my life here it's basically the nuts. Would be better if there was some more cash games at DTD but not worth leaving the country over!

[rfgqqabc]

Seriously Alex. At your age, with your commitments and your love for poker, if you do anything other than clear off to Vegas for 6 months a year you want your head looking at.

Thailand/South America for 3 months or so post my graduation? Presuming i don't revert to lol live pro!

[Longy]

The main problem with going to Vegas for 6 months is the fact that you would have to get a visa to do so!

Gl with that playing poker.

[KarmaDope]

90 days max in one trip for Vegas, but for someone like you Alex, it has to be done at some point.

Wouldn't go now, because it's dead for your games, but when the Venetian Deepstacks start in Jan/Feb then I'd go for that, fly back when the games die down and then go back out for WSOP next year.

Treat it as a business trip though. Aim to keep your expenses very low (ie less booze, cheap stays and eats etc) and put in the hours. A guy I know called Rich Offless (RichEO on here) does it and makes a lot of money.

[redarmi]

Find it hard to believe you wouldn't get action all year around in Vegas.  There were very good $2-$5 and $5-$10 games all year around in Florida when i was there and they ran pretty much 18 hours a day.  Surely Vegas must be at least as good as that?

[Longy]

My brief experience with south florida poker is that the games were a lot better than Vegas. Vegas games ebb and flow in their availability and softness depending on out of town traffic, of course there are a bunch of regs there but the out of towners make the games.

If I were going to grind cash for that long in vegas, I would spend a decent amount of that time in LA, which has a massive selection of good action at 2/5+.