Prose from a Poshboy

[gouty]

These type of things will always go on because some players look only to the short term, and more fool them. just make a mental note "tosser" and say nothing as far as the seat moves go.

Moving down games after winning seems much more of a no no to me though but should be up to the card room to supervise. Maybe on a festival weekend you dtd regs should make a conscious effort to not start your big straddle game too early? Spread out with us recs earlier and build up to the bigger game? The straddles do make that game kind of unappealling to visitors I feel.

Fair play to you for bringing etiquette up in your diary though Alex. I think its really important in this game. Good luck in Vegas.

Al

[iangascoigne]

     Great post Alex. Agree with a lot you say. The early leavers,lock up guys tend to be those playing above their rolls and an early double up is just too much for them not to want to leave the game. The only thing that tilts me is sitting down to play a deep 1/2 which quickly becomes a 1/2/4/8/16 game which is entirely different and not what you kinda agreed to when you sat down. I can see that adds to some players wish to leave the game. The regs need to think a little more about this because in their desire to turn the 1/2 into a 2/5 or even a 5/10 they are alienating some of the players.
      With regards to Frankie's earlier post,Mitch is always class when he gets stacked. No emotion,just reloads for twice the amount he has lost and raises every hand for the next hour until he gets it all back.
       Good luck in Vegas.

[cambridgealex]

      With regards to Frankie's earlier post,Mitch is always class when he gets stacked. No emotion,just reloads for twice the amount he has lost and raises every hand for the next hour until he gets it all back.

haha classic!

1/2 tonight? No 8 or 18 straddles I promise.

[edgascoigne]

     With regards to Frankie's earlier post,Mitch is always class when he gets stacked. No emotion,just reloads for twice the amount he has lost and raises every hand for the next hour until he gets it all back.

haha classic!

1/2 tonight? No 8 or 18 straddles I promise.

Damn n^4+n straddles...

EDIT: Also, you're def right about the moving seat thing. Hadn't really given it due thought until our conversation.

[Matryoshka]

Ha ha that little grin makes you look so comedy menacing in that photo.......

Exactly. The last picture in my life where I have two of my ears.   

[titaniumbean]

Ha ha that little grin makes you look so comedy menacing in that photo.......

it's quite unreal just how menacing and perverted that grin is.


rofl

[cambridgealex]

      With regards to Frankie's earlier post,Mitch is always class when he gets stacked. No emotion,just reloads for twice the amount he has lost and raises every hand for the next hour until he gets it all back.

haha classic!

1/2 tonight? No 8 or 18 straddles I promise.

Damn n^4+n straddles...

EDIT: Also, you're def right about the moving seat thing. Hadn't really given it due thought until our conversation.

Geek

Ha ha that little grin makes you look so comedy menacing in that photo.......

Exactly. The last picture in my life where I have two of my ears.   

I am taking you back to England with me piece by piece

[cambridgealex]

I agree with the whole moving seats thing

I do think that you can move to a smaller game if the current one gets too big that you are no longer comfortable playing in it.

For example, there was a time recently toward the end of the night where we were 4-handed on 1/1 and the straddles went a bit silly, where it became 1/1/2/4/8/16 every hand. I was winning quite a bit on that table, however I'm not rolled to play 8/16 and I wasn't comfortable playing that every hand. There was another 1/1 game still running. I didn't want to have to go home, but I didn't want to stay in a game that became too large for my roll and where I might play scared. Under these circumstances, are people not allowed to move to a table that isn't playing silly?

It sounds perfectly reasonable on paper.

I think we should get Mitch ITT. He would throw me a look like I'd just cheated on his fiancée if I ever did that. 

Speaking of his fiancée, she was out with us on saturday night, and Ian Gascoigne introduced himself to her with the most hilarious line:

"Hi I'm Ian, I've paid for his car and your wedding"

Legend

[cambridgealex]

I agree with the whole moving seats thing

I do think that you can move to a smaller game if the current one gets too big that you are no longer comfortable playing in it.

For example, there was a time recently toward the end of the night where we were 4-handed on 1/1 and the straddles went a bit silly, where it became 1/1/2/4/8/16 every hand. I was winning quite a bit on that table, however I'm not rolled to play 8/16 and I wasn't comfortable playing that every hand. There was another 1/1 game still running. I didn't want to have to go home, but I didn't want to stay in a game that became too large for my roll and where I might play scared. Under these circumstances, are people not allowed to move to a table that isn't playing silly?

It sounds perfectly reasonable on paper.

I think we should get Mitch ITT. He would throw me a look like I'd just cheated on his fiancée if I ever did that. 

Speaking of his fiancée, she was out with us on saturday night, and Ian Gascoigne introduced himself to her with the most hilarious line:

"Hi I'm Ian, I've paid for his car and your wedding"

Legend

I mean, I didn't leave because I didn't want to annoy anyone. But I don't think anyone should be made to feel uncomfortable at the table or if they make a sensible bankroll decision to move

I don't think anybody should be made to feel uncomfortable in a game. And I think this is where the differing bankrolls of the different regs come into play. Reg A may be very comfortably rolled and be happy to see the game get big, and couldn't imagine leaving to play a smaller game. Reg B may be comfortable at 1/2, but not at 1/2/4/8/16 and it's absolutely a sensible bankroll decision to move down. Reg A then makes Reg B feel like a ratholding HNR scumbag and the situation gets worse

This issue is mainly why I wrote the post. Because I was reg B and so really get where they're coming from. I've also been made to feel pretty shitty by Reg A in the past for doing this.

On the other hand, it's made me a better player because of it (more used to the bigger games, bigger swings, playing deeper etc) and helped my reputation as a reg.

It's a tough one.

[stato_1]

Yes, get Reg A in this thread imo

[titaniumbean]

I agree with the whole moving seats thing

I do think that you can move to a smaller game if the current one gets too big that you are no longer comfortable playing in it.

For example, there was a time recently toward the end of the night where we were 4-handed on 1/1 and the straddles went a bit silly, where it became 1/1/2/4/8/16 every hand. I was winning quite a bit on that table, however I'm not rolled to play 8/16 and I wasn't comfortable playing that every hand. There was another 1/1 game still running. I didn't want to have to go home, but I didn't want to stay in a game that became too large for my roll and where I might play scared. Under these circumstances, are people not allowed to move to a table that isn't playing silly?

It sounds perfectly reasonable on paper.

I think we should get Mitch ITT. He would throw me a look like I'd just cheated on his fiancée if I ever did that. 

Speaking of his fiancée, she was out with us on saturday night, and Ian Gascoigne introduced himself to her with the most hilarious line:

"Hi I'm Ian, I've paid for his car and your wedding"

Legend

fucking legend. ahahaaaa

[bobAlike]

If the game has progressively gotten bigger of the course of the night, which invariably they do, then if you don't feel confident you should be able to leave whenever you want. Unfortunately if this happens regularly some people will view this as HNR and may not be so welcoming in the future. Such a fine line to balance but experience will guide you.

[theprawnidentity]

It's a tough one.

I don't even think its close.  As a professional who is there to make money, its ENTIRELY your decision whether the game is too big for you.  It's your bankroll on the line at the end of the day.

I've also been made to feel pretty shitty by Reg A in the past for doing this.

Yes, get Reg A in this thread imo

Exactly this.

[kinboshi]

I agree with the whole moving seats thing

I do think that you can move to a smaller game if the current one gets too big that you are no longer comfortable playing in it.

For example, there was a time recently toward the end of the night where we were 4-handed on 1/1 and the straddles went a bit silly, where it became 1/1/2/4/8/16 every hand. I was winning quite a bit on that table, however I'm not rolled to play 8/16 and I wasn't comfortable playing that every hand. There was another 1/1 game still running. I didn't want to have to go home, but I didn't want to stay in a game that became too large for my roll and where I might play scared. Under these circumstances, are people not allowed to move to a table that isn't playing silly?

It sounds perfectly reasonable on paper.

I think we should get Mitch ITT. He would throw me a look like I'd just cheated on his fiancée if I ever did that. 

Speaking of his fiancée, she was out with us on saturday night, and Ian Gascoigne introduced himself to her with the most hilarious line:

"Hi I'm Ian, I've paid for his car and your wedding"

Legend

I mean, I didn't leave because I didn't want to annoy anyone. But I don't think anyone should be made to feel uncomfortable at the table or if they make a sensible bankroll decision to move

I don't think anybody should be made to feel uncomfortable in a game. And I think this is where the differing bankrolls of the different regs come into play. Reg A may be very comfortably rolled and be happy to see the game get big, and couldn't imagine leaving to play a smaller game. Reg B may be comfortable at 1/2, but not at 1/2/4/8/16 and it's absolutely a sensible bankroll decision to move down. Reg A then makes Reg B feel like a ratholding HNR scumbag and the situation gets worse

This issue is mainly why I wrote the post. Because I was reg B and so really get where they're coming from. I've also been made to feel pretty shitty by Reg A in the past for doing this.

On the other hand, it's made me a better player because of it (more used to the bigger games, bigger swings, playing deeper etc) and helped my reputation as a reg.

It's a tough one.

For many recs, it's maybe worse when the regs who play the 1/2 or bigger, sit-down at a 1/1 game (waiting for the larger game to open) and play the game a lot larger than it normally plays (as the money means less to them and they're bored with the usual bet-sizing). They maybe go on to win a buy-in or two, and then leave to play the 1/2 (when the game opens).  I know that some recs feel as though that money is now lost to them as they aren't rolled to play the 1/2 game and so aren't given the opportunity to win it back.

Of course, they should be grateful when a reg comes to gamble and throw away a few buyins on the 1/1 game, as often happens, but it's when they get stacked to the regs that sticks in their minds more.

[kinboshi]

I agree with the whole moving seats thing

I do think that you can move to a smaller game if the current one gets too big that you are no longer comfortable playing in it.

For example, there was a time recently toward the end of the night where we were 4-handed on 1/1 and the straddles went a bit silly, where it became 1/1/2/4/8/16 every hand. I was winning quite a bit on that table, however I'm not rolled to play 8/16 and I wasn't comfortable playing that every hand. There was another 1/1 game still running. I didn't want to have to go home, but I didn't want to stay in a game that became too large for my roll and where I might play scared. Under these circumstances, are people not allowed to move to a table that isn't playing silly?

It sounds perfectly reasonable on paper.

I think we should get Mitch ITT. He would throw me a look like I'd just cheated on his fiancée if I ever did that. 

Speaking of his fiancée, she was out with us on saturday night, and Ian Gascoigne introduced himself to her with the most hilarious line:

"Hi I'm Ian, I've paid for his car and your wedding"

Legend

fucking legend. ahahaaaa

That is brilliant!