Manchester United, that didn't last long. Seven up

[david3103]

Moyes just didn't have the pedigree of demeanour to manage a club of Uniteds size. He should stick the evertons and liverpools

Ooohhhh......

 

[TightEnd]

realistically please

how close would you feel LVG and MU would get to the title next year if they bought in the summer

Hummels or Varane? (a young commanding centre back anyway)

Gundogan for midfield

a quality striker


and churned the squad of the marginal guys, Falcao goes....with RVP maybe moving on too

close to chelsea (they will strengthen again in the summer)? a way off still?

ty

[david3103]

realistically please

how close would you feel LVG and MU would get to the title next year if they bought in the summer

Hummels or Varane? (a young commanding centre back anyway)

Gundogan for midfield

a quality striker


and churned the squad of the marginal guys, Falcao goes....with RVP maybe moving on too

close to chelsea (they will strengthen again in the summer)? a way off still?

ty

Had we started this season better we'd be pretty close now.
Dropped seven points in the first three games and arguably dropped ten in the first five.

I don't know the players you've mentioned but for sure we need to strengthen the central defence, to have at least one and preferably two decent DMs and to add at least one goal scorer (or get Falcao/RVP firing),
That probably gets us closer. Not sure it gets us the title though.

Need a new keeper next season too, probably.

[muckthenuts]

I think united fans have forgotten how lucky they were in so many games this season. Plenty more points could have been easily dropped mid-season, they've run way above expectation and and still probably going to finish 4th.

[david3103]

I think united fans have forgotten how lucky they were in so many games this season. Plenty more points could have been easily dropped mid-season, they've run way above expectation and and still probably going to finish 4th.

Of course we get lucky occasionally, every team does, but to say that our luck outweighed that of the other sides seems somewhat selective to me. Certainly don't agree that we have exceptionally well, nor that our league position is above expectation.

[George2Loose]

No one's forgotten anything. United weren't as poor as everyone was making out at the start and not as good as everyone is at the end BUT the performances in the last couple of months or so have been very encouraging. I think with a couple of signings we will be up there again next year however it also depends on how the sides around us strengthen.

Will be another interesting season regardless

[The Camel]

The whole league is piss poor really.

The Chelsea team which is going to stroll to the title wouldn't have won any in the United glory years.

City and United are woeful this year.

If it wasn't for Young and Feilani you wouldn't be in the CL spots.

Hands up if you thought either of those two would get any games outside the Capital One Cup this season.

Can't quite work out how Barca, Real and Bayern have left English teams needed binoculars to see them in the distance, they are so far ahead.

[George2Loose]

Agree with almost everything apart from Chelsea being poor

[BorntoBubble]

Agree with almost everything apart from Chelsea being poor

I Think they have been poor winners of the league. In my head when I think of league winning sides I have memories of United, the invincibles, ageroooooooo etc.

As a United fan we have definitely had years when we have won it and not been our best. I think it shows with how we cannot compete in Europe at the minute with how far behind we are.

[The Camel]

Agree with almost everything apart from Chelsea being poor

Hazard is obviously an outstanding player and I really like Matic - he suits their system.

Fabregas started the season on fire (and to be fair for the first dozen or so games Chelsea were really really good)

But since Christmas they've been rubbish. Fabregas, Oscar, Diego Costa, Remy. Virtually every attacking or creative player theyown has been woeful.

Maybe it's because the "challengers" have been even worse and the manager decided draws and 1-0 wins were enough to take the title.

The best and most appropriate description for Chelsea since Christmas is "hard working".

[Archer]

The whole league is piss poor really.

The Chelsea team which is going to stroll to the title wouldn't have won any in the United glory years.

City and United are woeful this year.

If it wasn't for Young and Feilani you wouldn't be in the CL spots.

Hands up if you thought either of those two would get any games outside the Capital One Cup this season.

Can't quite work out how Barca, Real and Bayern have left English teams needed binoculars to see them in the distance, they are so far ahead.

Agree the league has been poor this season and certainly less compelling than the close title races of 2014 City/Liverpool/Chelsea and 2012 City/United.

The must successful year for United from their "glory years" was 1999 and I'd take the view this Chelsea team is far stronger. Using 1999 as an example United didn't particularly dominate - they only won 22 of their 38 league games finishing on 79 points and only won 2 of their 6 Champions League group games.

Sure, Chelsea haven't had  a challenge since City's form spiralled after being joint top on New Year's day. This Chelsea, tho, are a ridiculously difficult team to beat - only 3 defeats all season including Champions League. Of those defeats only 2 in the league so far and if they remain unbeaten it 3rd best performances in terms of losses in PL history after the Invincibles and their own record in 2005 when they only lost 1.

The Barca/Real/bayern conundrum is pretty straightforward really - Ronaldo, Suarez, Bale, Messi, Robben etc etc. Stick those players in the top PL sides and lets see how we get on in Europe then.

[Pawprint]

I'd agree.  The Barca/Bayern/Real thing is down to proper World Class players.

If you were putting a current best in the world squad together (2 players per position), how many would be from the PL ?

[TightEnd]

I'd agree.  The Barca/Bayern/Real thing is down to proper World Class players.

If you were putting a current best in the world squad together (2 players per position), how many would be from the PL ?

None?

not a single englishman i can think of

hazard, costa, aguero not top 2 globally in their positions and those three would be closest?

[DungBeetle]

Courtois/Lloris would have a chance for the keeper slot?

Alexis Sanchez out wide?

[Pawprint]

Obviously depends on the exact formation you choose to play, and where you choose to play some of the players, but I was thinking it would be 4-3-3 of sorts

2 x Goalkeepers
2 x Left Backs
2 x Right Backs
4 x Centre Backs
6 x Midfielders
6 x Forwards