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« Reply #1605 on: October 01, 2013, 06:10:57 PM »

Times have changed. You don't get two years to get things sorted at a top club any longer. Utd have resources far in excess of 17 of the other sides in the Premier League. That wasnt the case when Fergie took over.

True yet the successful managers are still almost without fail those that have been given time.  In ever aspect of life these days we are over focused on short term results and ignore natural variance and football takes it to a ridiculous extreme.  He might never be as good as Ferguson but then who is?  United fans have to accept how lucky they were to have him but Moyes will be fine if he is given the time and this that say he wasn't successful at Everton literally know nothing about football.
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« Reply #1606 on: October 01, 2013, 08:04:33 PM »

Times have changed. You don't get two years to get things sorted at a top club any longer. Utd have resources far in excess of 17 of the other sides in the Premier League. That wasnt the case when Fergie took over.

Arsenal had 8 years without a trophy though
Brandon rogers has been given time also


Not quite the same paul.

Arsenal have built a brand new stadium and created a self-sustaining model.

Manure have a self-sustaining debt and unlimited resources.

rodgers has had a year liverpool dont really have any expectations he took over mid table side and thats what they still are

wengers survived the sack in the last 3 years due to getting into the holy grail of the champions league.

unlimited resources?? uniteds priority is interest payments. they spend alot more on interest than transfers. net transfer spend under the glazers is very low last time i looked they were getting outspent by the likes of stoke never mind city and chelsea. a bonus in getting moyes he was free and use to having no money to spend

the glaziers whole scheme is based on guaranteed champions league money if moyes doesnt get them in that hes in big trouble
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« Reply #1607 on: October 02, 2013, 12:51:34 AM »

Isn't net spend distorted by the sale of Ronaldo?

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« Reply #1608 on: October 02, 2013, 10:22:10 AM »


we sold him and replaced him with owen obertan and valencia look what spurs did with the bale money - they spent it
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« Reply #1609 on: October 03, 2013, 11:32:38 PM »

Moyes still a v shrewd appointment IMO.
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« Reply #1610 on: October 03, 2013, 11:38:05 PM »

He needs time and support. This was always gonna happen

Same with Fellani- I've never really been a fan but let's give him a chance to settle in
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« Reply #1611 on: October 04, 2013, 09:00:43 AM »


we sold him and replaced him with owen obertan and valencia look what spurs did with the bale money - they spent it

Spurs had more need to spend than we did
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« Reply #1612 on: October 04, 2013, 12:15:34 PM »

I'm not overly concerned about United in the medium-term.  We can put out an U23's side that looks like this

de Gea (22)
Fabio (23)
Rafael (23)
Keane (20)
Smalling (23)
Jones (21)
Zaha (20)
Powell (19)
Lingard (20)
Januzaj (18)
Welbeck (22)

We've got players ages 24/25 such as Cleverly, Evans, Fellaini, Kagawa, Hernandez (I exclude Anderson from that list Wink )

Moyes is right in the fact that the squad lacks a number of real world class players, but at the moment for whatever reason, they are either unavailable, or do not want to join the club.

Vidic, Rooney and Van Persie fit that bill at the moment.  Nani potentially could have, but he's just the most frustrating player.  Carrick is not world class, but has always done an excllent job for us.  People question his inability to turn up for the big games, but he hasn't had a quality central midfield partner for few seasons now.

It might well be a trophyless few seasons, but it will be more of a dip than an unstoppable decline.
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« Reply #1613 on: October 04, 2013, 02:50:05 PM »

Enjoy.

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« Reply #1614 on: October 04, 2013, 08:24:32 PM »


we sold him and replaced him with owen obertan and valencia look what spurs did with the bale money - they spent it

Spurs had more need to spend than we did


so do you believe we have unlimited funds aswell then??

surely you can see the difference post plc where the moneys going now??

worrying when a liverpool fan pops up and says moyes is a shrewd appointment - dalglish was at it last week aswell
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« Reply #1615 on: October 04, 2013, 08:36:09 PM »

brilliant interview!
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« Reply #1616 on: October 05, 2013, 06:14:55 PM »

Defence looking poor today
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« Reply #1617 on: October 05, 2013, 08:32:58 PM »


fuckin hell that 1st half hahaha

all over the place could and should have been 2/3/4 down at half time

a win from behind should do wonders for there confidence
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« Reply #1618 on: October 26, 2013, 04:01:19 PM »


bood off at half time the natives are restless
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« Reply #1619 on: October 26, 2013, 04:02:17 PM »

Now on sale in the Man Utd shop, the Davy Moyes lamp......It looks great in the middle of the table!!!!
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Mantis - I would like to thank 77dave for his more realistic take on things.
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