Big blind STT, 5 left, blinds huge

[thetank]

A tight ST tournament, 5 left with blinds of 300/600. Top 3 get paid. Usually the bubble has burst in these things by the end of the 200/400 blind round at the latest.

You have a stack of 2.4k in the big blind. UTG goes all-in for 1.4k, button with 4k flat calls.
You have , it's 800 to call. A call would leave you with 1k what do you do?

Button is quite loose passive, you feel he'll check down most holdings after the flop with a player all-in.

[snoopy1239]

I'd flat call if I was sure that it would get checked down.

But I'm not really sure about this 1.

My head hurts. 

[Dewi_cool]

fold

[Royal Flush]

clear fold.

You have to beat 2 players and the price is way too high

[thetank]

I fold here too, what would you do here if there were 4 left instead of 5?

[Royal Flush]

4 left i am leaning towards the call, but i think its probably still a pass.

[12barblues]

The fact that you want the pot checked down when you are holding 6 high says it all. Horrible situation to be in, but it is just unplayable.

[Graham C]

fold for me too, its a losing hand imo

[thetank]

The fact that you want the pot checked down when you are holding 6 high says it all.

The button is likely to check it down, doesn't mean you can't bet if you hit a flop you like.
You guys would still fold with 4 left?

[12barblues]

The button seems quite happy to let you into the pot from the big blind. He'd have gone all in himself if he wanted to shut you out.

You'll miss the flop completely 2 times out of 3, and if you hit you still can't like it that much unless you've fluked a monster aka 'a big blind special'.

Is he folding for an all in  from you of 1,000 making the pot 5,500 anyway?

[Wardonkey]

Call, your odds are just too good.

If win then you have enough chips to take control of the tournament.

If you miss the flop and the other guy bets you can safely lay it down and still have 1,000 chips. It does not make difference if you have 1,800 or 1,000, you have to win the next time your involved.

[Royal Flush]

If you miss the flop and the other guy bets you can safely lay it down and still have 1,000 chips. It does not make difference if you have 1,800 or 1,000, you have to win the next time your involved.

Diffrence is when u have 1k and double u have 2k, when u have 1800 and double you have 3600

[thetank]

Is he folding for an all in  from you of 1,000 making the pot 5,500 anyway?

Not likely, fair point.

With 4 left, I see this as a chance to increase the chances of the bubble bursting, and if you get lucky take down a pot that you can win the tournament with. I call, only if I have a read on the button that he is passive.
With 5, easy fold as that 800 chips are so important as they mean that a raise on subsequent hands, your opponents might fold to. With 1k left no-one can fold.

[Wardonkey]

Your getting 4/1 on the call and probably an extra 1k if you win. Thats more than enough. Unless there is another chronic short stack then you have to call here.

[12barblues]

Grovel......grovel......

Having spent a couple of minutes playing with the twodimes poker calculator, I think Wardonkey's right. Even with an overpair  and 2 overcards it seems the pot odds (4.625 to 1 ) are sufficient. I was surprised as I thought the presence of a third player would have a bigger impact. In fact he hurts the best hand most, probably because 63 is such junk anyway 

That takes us into the realms of the changing value of chips and I have no idea how to calculate the impact of that.

Not sure about winning and taking control though - there's 6,900 chips unaccounted for - is there a 'nitpick' smiley?