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« Reply #2880 on: October 17, 2015, 12:40:08 AM » |
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It was Murray that went 11. Macklin was blitzed in 3. Murray was a massive middleweight with a very good chin on him. Lemieux is neither of those things, although he can bang. |
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« Reply #2881 on: October 17, 2015, 12:58:54 AM » |
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Whats peoples take on GGG v Lemieux?
It's much the same as the general consensus that Lemiuex gets smashed, it's only really a matter of when. I'm kinda looking forward to Fonfara Cleverly more as it'll be a closer bout. I know I probably shouldn't but I kinda like Clev tonight. Last chance saloon for him. Fonfara is a good solid all rounder but is being given too much credit for beating Junior. That said there are obviously question marks over Clev mentally since the Kovalev battering. Thank fuck you said it first cus I was too embarrassed to speak up. Before the odds came out I was struggling to decide how to price Fonfara and it definetley would be been bigger than 1/2 but no worse than 10/11. Part of me still wants Cleverly to get KTFO over that Bellew cash grab fiasco. The guy knew he wasn't a cruiserweight and I'm convinced his hand was injured prior to getting in the ring with Bellew. That's not speaking out my wallet btw as I greened out after 4 but it pissed me off that lot's of other Blondes were on it aswell. And notice that Chavez Jr thing where Hearn pursued him for Froch, Vera for Fielding and now Clev has a crack at Fonfara. |
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« Reply #2882 on: October 17, 2015, 01:26:54 AM » |
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It was Murray that went 11. Macklin was blitzed in 3. Murray was a massive middleweight with a very good chin on him. Lemieux is neither of those things, although he can bang. God damnit, I knew that aswell :p |
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« Reply #2883 on: October 17, 2015, 01:29:09 AM » |
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Whats peoples take on GGG v Lemieux?
It's much the same as the general consensus that Lemiuex gets smashed, it's only really a matter of when. I'm kinda looking forward to Fonfara Cleverly more as it'll be a closer bout. I know I probably shouldn't but I kinda like Clev tonight. Last chance saloon for him. Fonfara is a good solid all rounder but is being given too much credit for beating Junior. That said there are obviously question marks over Clev mentally since the Kovalev battering. Thank fuck you said it first cus I was too embarrassed to speak up. Before the odds came out I was struggling to decide how to price Fonfara and it definetley would be been bigger than 1/2 but no worse than 10/11. Part of me still wants Cleverly to get KTFO over that Bellew cash grab fiasco. The guy knew he wasn't a cruiserweight and I'm convinced his hand was injured prior to getting in the ring with Bellew. That's not speaking out my wallet btw as I greened out after 4 but it pissed me off that lot's of other Blondes were on it aswell. And notice that Chavez Jr thing where Hearn pursued him for Froch, Vera for Fielding and now Clev has a crack at Fonfara. So hard to trust Cleverly in the big fights now, or is that just me? He looked petrified v Bellew, but you might be right, he could have been injured, was it the right or left that he barely threw all night? |
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« Reply #2884 on: October 17, 2015, 02:00:20 AM » |
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His right. Clev barely threw a right hand.
Trust risk etc are all included in the odds.
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« Reply #2885 on: October 17, 2015, 02:43:33 AM » |
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Clev is too clever to be a boxer surely? He hasn't got that killer instinct you need to be that good at the business end of the game? He always knows he has other outs in life.
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« Reply #2886 on: October 17, 2015, 04:04:39 AM » |
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Clev is too clever to be a boxer surely? He hasn't got that killer instinct you need to be that good at the business end of the game? He always knows he has other outs in life.
The desire might not be quite there either due to having the other outs. I guess we find out tonight whether he still has the desire as a peak Clev wins this handily but he will have to really want it as Fonfara will keep coming all night. Also for someone who is smarter than your average boxer some of his career decisions have been very questionable. |
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« Reply #2887 on: October 17, 2015, 04:06:00 AM » |
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Clev can win a boxing match and lose a fight.
That was a helluva fight between the wee japs btw.
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« Reply #2888 on: October 17, 2015, 04:26:33 AM » |
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Clev can win a boxing match and lose a fight.
That was a helluva fight between the wee japs btw.
Clev looking like he would rather fight. Sigh. |
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« Reply #2889 on: October 17, 2015, 04:37:19 AM » |
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Sigh showboating vs this unit of a man. Now clevs got a broken nose  |
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« Reply #2890 on: October 17, 2015, 04:43:11 AM » |
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No lack of desire being shown by Clev here. He needs to throw the jab more and keep throwing it. Both tanks must be close to empty as a lot of pinches have been thrown.
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« Reply #2891 on: October 17, 2015, 04:45:29 AM » |
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He's digging in. I'll be happy to fade the lay of fonfara by ko.
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« Reply #2892 on: October 17, 2015, 05:04:02 AM » |
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That was winnable. The nose going didn't help but with a better game plan he wins that. He didn't throw the jab anywhere near enough and stood right in front of Fonfara. A decent set of cards for a change.
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« Reply #2893 on: October 17, 2015, 05:16:53 AM » |
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That was winnable. The nose going didn't help but with a better game plan he wins that. He didn't throw the jab anywhere near enough and stood right in front of Fonfara. A decent set of cards for a change.
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« Reply #2894 on: October 17, 2015, 10:27:02 AM » |
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Ive known David Lemieux since he was 8 years old... now im not saying he is in the same league as GGG, Cotto, Canelo... etc However... one thing I do is he can punch... GGG has never been punched before, but saying that neither has David. The one time he was in trouble was against Rubio where we didnt get to see what he was made of cause the corner rightfully stopped the fight.. David was 21 years of age at the time. I dont think tonight is as straight forward as everyone thinks... Betting with my heart, im having a small wager on David knocking GGG out... Any big puncher has a punchers chance, and if GGG walks onto one of Davids right hands or left hooks it could be curtains before it gets going! I see an upset!! I appreciate that most of you think diff and on the Rubio form rightfully so... but dont be shocked when David shocks the boxing world tonight!!  |
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