Travellers

[thetank]

Claw wastes time posting when she could be ironing.

You didn't know this already?

[acc2020]

Acc, Boldie's probably right, there are just so many other factors that you need to consider, that you can't rely on %incarceration on its own as an indication of %criminality.
Just been checking out the relative stats for black incarceration, it's pretty staggering. However I do think they get arrested more often.
In the USA black men are 6x more likely to be incarcerated than white men. Why is this?

I'm well aware these are just stats and is one persons interpretation of the figures. Incarceration does not implicitly mean someone is a criminal , i know that.  I had a friend who is a heroin addict , i had known him for over 30 years and gave him a lift a few times. The police spotted me with him and for the next few weeks i noticed i was frequently followed by undercover police cars. My house was raided for suspicion of supplying drugs and i spent a few hours in a police cell for protesting my innocence. I don't even smoke cigarettes. All this because i gave a junkie a lift on a few occasions. So yes i understand.

You do have to take notice that gypsies are more likely to end up in prison than the general population. Anybody who believes MANTIS01's theory that 98% are good law abiding citizens because they are not locked up are pretty naive.

[MANTIS01]

I love black people

[thetank]

I'd just like to declare right away that I'm very racist, sexist, ageist and I don't like certain breeds of duck. The other thing I don't like are numbers people have pulled out of their arse.

I suspect acc2020s estimate that 75% of Gypsys are bad eggs is well off.

-There will more than likely be bad eggs that he'e counted as Gypsies who are not Gypsies.

-There will almost certainly be Gypsies he's met who were good eggs, but he was unaware that they were Gypsies.

-The Gypsy bad eggs probably get about a bit more than the Gypsy good eggs. For example your Gypsy good egg knocks on 12 doors and spends the rest of his day doing a driveway. The Gypsy bad egg knocks on 12 doors, takes a deposit, buggers off, knocks on 12 more doors, takes a deposit and buggers off etc etc. The end result is the Gypsies that cross his radar are not  necessary a representative sample of Gypsies.

End the post with a pithy short paragraph.

[acc2020]

I'd just like to declare right away that I'm very racist, sexist, ageist and I don't like certain breeds of duck. The other thing I don't like are numbers people have pulled out of their arse.

I suspect acc2020s estimate that 75% of Gypsys are bad eggs is well off.

-There will more than likely be bad eggs that he'e counted as Gypsies who are not Gypsies.

-There will almost certainly be Gypsies he's met who were good eggs, but he was unaware that they were Gypsies.

-The Gypsy bad eggs probably get about a bit more than the Gypsy good eggs. For example your Gypsy good egg knocks on 12 doors and spends the rest of his day doing a driveway. The Gypsy bad egg knocks on 12 doors, takes a deposit, buggers off, knocks on 12 more doors, takes a deposit and buggers off etc etc. The end result is the Gypsies that cross his radar are not  necessary a representative sample of Gypsies.

End the post with a pithy short paragraph.

I wish to correct you there about my estimate. I have had some sort of social interaction with hundreds of gypsies mainly through the course of work , and out of them i would say 75% come across as rude , obnoxious scheming and untrustworthy. I'm not including the probable thousands I've walked / driven past / not noticed. The actual figure of bad eggs could be 10% , 25%, 60% but the 75% is what i have experienced personally.

How many subjects of a particular culture / race /group do i need meet to be able to form an opinion about them.

Why cant i have my opinion having met with say 400. Does that figure need to reach 1000 before i can form an opinion or do i need to meet every single one of them ?

Some of you guys have opinions having not much contact with them. If you believe 98% or 85% are good people  that's up to you , you are entitled to think that just like if i think the total opposite then I'm entitled to think that too.

[boldie]

Those of you who want to google the "why people dislike gypsies " debate you will find many many more posters like myself and realise it is you guys in the minority not me.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T6TP3U2GKPBPDACQP

http://www.rebron.org/2007/02/27/why-i-hate-blacks-asians/

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_white_people_dislike_black_people

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110605124434AAuJVUh

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=25405097484&topic=9995

in short 24,900,000 results (0.09 seconds) on why people dislike black people.

Do you want to to google why we should hate Jews and Asians?

[thetank]

I was referring to the set of people that you have had interactions with but you did not know they were Gypsies because they weren't trying to hawk you spme clothes pegs that their womenfolk have whittled out of firewood.

May well be that your mechanic actually is a Gypsy.

[sledge13]

Where I live in North Yorkshire there are a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them, and they are known for thieivng/stealing from all the shops on the business park where I work, they make out they are after your pallets or scrap metal then steal whatever, in the last couple of months....a van was stolen when parked for reloading, and worst of all a customers van was stolen with his dog in the cab and left....thankfully the van and dog was recovered minus the tools!!!

[sledge13]

Those of you who want to google the "why people dislike gypsies " debate you will find many many more posters like myself and realise it is you guys in the minority not me.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T6TP3U2GKPBPDACQP

http://www.rebron.org/2007/02/27/why-i-hate-blacks-asians/

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_white_people_dislike_black_people

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110605124434AAuJVUh

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=25405097484&topic=9995

in short 24,900,000 results (0.09 seconds) on why people dislike black people.

Do you want to to google why we should hate Jews and Asians?

You forgot to mention I HATE THE DUTCH!!!!

[RED-DOG]

Where I live in North Yorkshire there are a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them, and they are known for thieivng/stealing from all the shops on the business park where I work, they make out they are after your pallets or scrap metal then steal whatever, in the last couple of months....a van was stolen when parked for reloading, and worst of all a customers van was stolen with his dog in the cab and left....thankfully the van and dog was recovered minus the tools!!!

a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them,

Not sure who they are eh? Difficult to tell isn't it? Easier to just lump them all together and throw a couple of derogatory terms in for good measure.

Do all the Gypsies and Travellers in your area come to the business park where you work and steal things? If so, there must be quite a crowd. Do they form a queue?

Could it be that just the odd one or two people who you suspect to be Gypsies or Travellers come to steal while the rest (Or at least some) are honest, decent, hard-working people?

Does it not worry you that some innocent people might get caught up in your accusations?

What happened to the people who stole the van, I presume they were arrested?


 

[RED-DOG]

Look back at some of the stuff that's been posted on this thread, and then try to imagine what its like to be a Gypsy boy of 7 or 8 years old rolling up for his first day at school in a new town.

Imagine what it's like when he's 16 or 17 and gets stopped by the police.

Imagine what it's like when he's 30 with a family of small children asleep in his caravan and half a house brick comes through the window in the middle of the night.

Imagine what it's like when he's 53 and finds links like this every day.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anti-gypsy%20device

Imagine what it's like when he's trying to explain these things to his grandchildren, who incidentally will be rolling up for their first day at school in a new town tomorrow.

[sledge13]

Where I live in North Yorkshire there are a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them, and they are known for thieivng/stealing from all the shops on the business park where I work, they make out they are after your pallets or scrap metal then steal whatever, in the last couple of months....a van was stolen when parked for reloading, and worst of all a customers van was stolen with his dog in the cab and left....thankfully the van and dog was recovered minus the tools!!!

a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them,

Not sure who they are eh? Difficult to tell isn't it? Easier to just lump them all together and throw a couple of derogatory terms in for good measure.

Do all the Gypsies and Travellers in your area come to the business park where you work and steal things? If so, there must be quite a crowd. Do they form a queue?

Could it be that just the odd one or two people who you suspect to be Gypsies or Travellers come to steal while the rest (Or at least some) are honest, decent, hard-working people?

Does it not worry you that some innocent people might get caught up in your accusations?

What happened to the people who stole the van, I presume they were arrested?


 

No he ran away and was never found....

[RED-DOG]

Where I live in North Yorkshire there are a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them, and they are known for thieivng/stealing from all the shops on the business park where I work, they make out they are after your pallets or scrap metal then steal whatever, in the last couple of months....a van was stolen when parked for reloading, and worst of all a customers van was stolen with his dog in the cab and left....thankfully the van and dog was recovered minus the tools!!!

a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them,

Not sure who they are eh? Difficult to tell isn't it? Easier to just lump them all together and throw a couple of derogatory terms in for good measure.

Do all the Gypsies and Travellers in your area come to the business park where you work and steal things? If so, there must be quite a crowd. Do they form a queue?

Could it be that just the odd one or two people who you suspect to be Gypsies or Travellers come to steal while the rest (Or at least some) are honest, decent, hard-working people?

Does it not worry you that some innocent people might get caught up in your accusations?

What happened to the people who stole the van, I presume they were arrested?


 

No he ran away and was never found....

But he was identified?

[RED-DOG]

BTW- Why did you only answer the one question?

[sledge13]

Where I live in North Yorkshire there are a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them, and they are known for thieivng/stealing from all the shops on the business park where I work, they make out they are after your pallets or scrap metal then steal whatever, in the last couple of months....a van was stolen when parked for reloading, and worst of all a customers van was stolen with his dog in the cab and left....thankfully the van and dog was recovered minus the tools!!!

a ton load of Pikeys/gypos/travellers or whatever pc description you want to call them,

Not sure who they are eh? Difficult to tell isn't it? Easier to just lump them all together and throw a couple of derogatory terms in for good measure.

Do all the Gypsies and Travellers in your area come to the business park where you work and steal things? If so, there must be quite a crowd. Do they form a queue?

Could it be that just the odd one or two people who you suspect to be Gypsies or Travellers come to steal while the rest (Or at least some) are honest, decent, hard-working people?

Does it not worry you that some innocent people might get caught up in your accusations?

What happened to the people who stole the van, I presume they were arrested?


 

No he ran away and was never found....

But he was identified?

The customer had seen him around before...tbf the older generation are always very polite, its the young uns! (yes maybe like the rest of the population...)