"The Downswings of Property and Poker"

[bobAlike]

On for both, don't usually partake but bored at work and sweat needed for journey home.

Thanks to Bopkin £200 profit and thanks to Eso because I wouldn't have backed it if he didn't mention it ITT.

[titaniumbean]

Safety Awareness

Today I have had to attend a Driving Safety Awareness course well when I say have to it's more of a doing it instead of taking the 3 pts option. Driving back from DTD in November I was a bit tired and must have nodded for a mili second and got caught n the static camera at the Fortune of War roundabout (for those that know it it's not a true roundabout) doing 46 in a 40 so not having had any points in the past 15 years decided to pay an extra £35 than the points and fine route and attend the course. I was more annoyed at not having stopped 10 mins earlier when I started to get tired as using this road every week I would never under other circumstances get caught speeding here.

I arrived early and had a coffee looking around the room at everyone else and was dressed in my suit as back at work this arvo before we were called through for our 4hours of pain.  I first of all thought we would be treated like naughty school kids and one of the trainers definately gave this feel but it was not so bad and despite the old guy next to me with eye brows that made Norman Lamont look tidy, bemoaning why he was caught and that it is the constant changes in speed on the roads that causes the accidents I can honestly say I came away from the course and took something from it!!

Obviously I can never promise that I wont speed again as that is impossible but definately feel I shall have a greater self discipline with driving in the future.

Confirmed. Watching a rerun of the M5 pileup in the 90s was pretty gross.

Also, confirmed I was youngest there by least 10 years, and the younger drivers are the danger on the road...

Wouldnt say all the younger drivers are but it was a defo eyeopener, interestingly most people on the course were my age or older only 4/30 in their twenties. I would imagine we are the group that drive 10-15% over the limit on certain roads and that dont pose a massive danger but need re-education!!

GL today bud use my chips well 

I went on a red light awareness course and was deffo one of the youngest there. Out of a room of 25 only myself and 2 others knew the correct order of the traffic light sequence. One woman was just saying I always go through reds and always will......

It felt just like being in detention or something, we had a little man with a huge little man complex and he took great delight in saying things like "you're not technically criminals but alot of people will see you as that" and a tonne of moronic condescending stuff.

Everyone was meant to talk throughout the 3 hour course but I argued with the guy because he was an idiot and tried to humiliate me (he failed epicly otherwise I would have shut up) and we over ran by 20 minutes but the whole room thanked me at the end because no one else had to say a word or pay attention!


Was obviously worth it relative to not getting points but it beggers belief how bad some people can be and think that they are good.

[Eso Kral]

Just got in from a late meeting not knowing the result and after seeing Petomic run thought we were on for an epic sweat, sorry for all that backed just mine obv ran too bad to be true and I'm gutted.

A big thank you to Bopkin who obv got a big winner and stopped me wiping out loadsa my profit for yr so far
This was my BF
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plus the £200 with VC means that overall on the day I lost   £176.06

update totals after LVTC

[Eso Kral]

Current P+L  after Kiss's poor run and the Bopkin winner
Sports betting +£577.74
Goals betting -£256.25
Football +£210.67
Horses +£690.65
Poker +£1060.28
2012 P+L +£2283.09



Today am playing on the Leicester total winning distances being more than 51lengths  £73.94 invested to win £176.61 before comm on BF
Edit am now a £109.67 loser on under 37 lengths and win £8.60 if 37-51inc comes in and £140.88 if overs in.

[bobAlike]

Hi Eso, bets like the Leicester distance interest me in that since when has that kind of bet been available?
Obviously with the dawn of computers statistical analysis has become main stream and accessible to anyone who wants the numbers. Do you use any specific tools or just your own judgement on viewing the racing media?

[hector62]

I am interested in your thought processes on this distance bet. I love betting on the distance market and usually need a compelling reason to go for  the overs i.e heavy ground, races over 3 miles or very small fields none of which seem to apply here so my initial thoughts are to go low.

[Eso Kral]

Hi Eso, bets like the Leicester distance interest me in that since when has that kind of bet been available?
Obviously with the dawn of computers statistical analysis has become main stream and accessible to anyone who wants the numbers. Do you use any specific tools or just your own judgement on viewing the racing media?

Hi Andy,

The distances bet has been around for years afaik and you get offered 3 bets eg Leicester today  under 37/ 37-51inc/ over 51 alas I am no comp geek like your goodself and only play this bet on certain tracks and Leicester is one I like to play if the conditions are soft/wet/windy as the straight is very long and you can get a 15-20 distance even with decent size fields.
TBH it's more of a punt but a couple of decent early results could mean a small trade out later on plus there is a 4 runner race in the middle which has the potential to make up a few lengths.

[Eso Kral]

I am interested in your thought processes on this distance bet. I love betting on the distance market and usually need a compelling reason to go for  the overs i.e heavy ground, races over 3 miles or very small fields none of which seem to apply here so my initial thoughts are to go low.

See above re Leicester as a track, I think middle is closer than low here today imho and if I can get a slightly bigger price may be tempted to add some middle in.
Races 2/4/5 have potential today

[bobAlike]

Hi Eso, bets like the Leicester distance interest me in that since when has that kind of bet been available?
Obviously with the dawn of computers statistical analysis has become main stream and accessible to anyone who wants the numbers. Do you use any specific tools or just your own judgement on viewing the racing media?

Hi Andy,

The distances bet has been around for years afaik and you get offered 3 bets eg Leicester today  under 37/ 37-51inc/ over 51 alas I am no comp geek like your goodself and only play this bet on certain tracks and Leicester is one I like to play if the conditions are soft/wet/windy as the straight is very long and you can get a 15-20 distance even with decent size fields.
TBH it's more of a punt but a couple of decent early results could mean a small trade out later on plus there is a 4 runner race in the middle which has the potential to make up a few lengths.

Cheers.

I wonder if there are any tools that do this type of analysis? (there probably is somewhere)
As I'm a racing numpty, do you know where a good place to look for racing data? If there is I could look at developing the analysis.

I imagine this how bookies work out the prices but as with all bookies sometimes they get it wrong enabling an exploitable system.

[Killerkilsby]

Awaiting a punting tip today. Ive been given a small one on a long shot. Walklikeaman. Bf says 110/1 on the win and 20/1 on the place cant see him winning if price that bad? Gone small on it anyways

[SuuPRlim]

ESO KRALLLLLLLLLLLLL

up 2 bags already, must be nice

[Eso Kral]

Awaiting a punting tip today. Ive been given a small one on a long shot. Walklikeaman. Bf says 110/1 on the win and 20/1 on the place cant see him winning if price that bad? Gone small on it anyways

GL with this it was 10/1 in the racingpost price guide and was 3/1 on debut, so hope it has all 4 legs in place!!

[Eso Kral]

ESO KRALLLLLLLLLLLLL

up 2 bags already, must be nice

Yeah but i spend it like it's going out of fashion and if it was not for the Bopkinator who turned a £600 losing day into a £176 losing one and also 1% of Mr Shallow it would be a bowl of rice!!
Read your blog today, amazeballs read imo and can tell you REALLYLOVETHEGAME!!

Mucho respecto!!!!!!

[Eso Kral]

Bet middle now  original post ammended

#swimmingagainstthetideftw

[Hairydude]

Awaiting a punting tip today. Ive been given a small one on a long shot. Walklikeaman. Bf says 110/1 on the win and 20/1 on the place cant see him winning if price that bad? Gone small on it anyways

On for £1.5 e/w for giggles