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« Reply #285 on: September 02, 2012, 08:59:58 PM »

Sorry, I'm not having a go.

Goldberg and Rogan just keep bleating on about that 'significant strikes' statistic, as if it's relevant to how a fight is scored.
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« Reply #286 on: September 02, 2012, 09:07:21 PM »

Sorry, I'm not having a go.

Goldberg and Rogan just keep bleating on about that 'significant strikes' statistic, as if it's relevant to how a fight is scored.


Yeah, Goldie loves it
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« Reply #287 on: September 22, 2012, 03:37:03 AM »

yeh def unusual, but should be an amazing display of striking .... will be interesting to find out who is better at that aspect. plus its not like he got gifted a title shot but he filled in as a replacement.

Well stats say that Bendo outstruck Edgar......


Fight isn't judged on those "significant strikes" stats though.
I only gave Henderson 1 round.
Take downs, octagon control, aggression was all Frankie for my money.

Hope he terrorises 145

Also hope someone Knocks Henderson off his perch ASAP.
rubs me up the wrong way

agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed i hope diaz knocks seven bells of shit out of him....
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« Reply #288 on: September 22, 2012, 04:02:57 PM »

Just copied this from the 'Tips for Tikay' thread. What is everyone backing tonight?

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After UFC 151 was spectacularly cancelled, we have had to wait 6 weeks between UFC events. UFC 152 takes place tonight and features some excellent match-ups and one bet in particular stands out for me and is worthy of consideration for TfT.

The co-main event sees the flyweight title on the line for the first time ever and we should get treated to an excellent fight as Joseph Benavidez (16-2) of Team Alpha Male takes on Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson (15-2-1). The bookies are heavily favouring Benavidez (1/3) and that allows us to have an excellent value bet on Johnson. In my regular UFC betting article I advised Johnson at 12/5 but he must have seen a little support since with 9/4 the best price available with other firms shorter.

The fight is guaranteed to be close and I expected the two fighters to be priced much closer. If you were giving me even money either man, I would still take Johnson - to emphasise how good I think the price is.

My expectation is that the majority of the fight will take place in the striking department, an area I anticipate Johnson to have a slight edge. Johnson is the busier fighter, and in these fights where the expectation is that it will go the full 5 rounds (stoppages less frequent when you have two 9 stone men hitting each other) it is important to be active and to point score. I can't find the outright striking statistics but on significant strikes (of which the exact definition no one is really sure), Johnson lands 3.11 per minute to Benavidez's 2.84. Perhaps more significantly, Johnson has a strike accuracy of 49%, considerably higher than Benavidez's 32%. The defence stats are close, with both absorbing a similar amount. From the statisitics we can determine that Johnson throws more and lands more, which is of course an excellent combination.

Those statistics are no secret and Benavidez's gameplan may involve trying to take Johnson to the mat where he has had previous success with 8 career submission victories. However, getting close enough to take down the speedy Johnson will be a task in itself and even if he does, his takedown success is a poor 25% with Johnson's defence at 55%. In fact, I think we might see Johnson point score with the odd takedown of his own as he is an accomplished wrestler with a success rate of 54%.

The most likely outcome, in my opinion, is a Johnson victory by decision which is offered up at 9/2 with Bodog and was best price 16/5 (PP) when I wrote my article before Bodog offered their prices. SkyBet have since went 4/1.

I don't really know how to do the maths as to regards whether the 9/4 outright or 9/2 decision is the better price. Johnson has 6 of 15 wins by decision and 6 submission victories but I am ruling the submission victory out in this close fight. I'll suggest the outright price but hopefully someone can come in and explain the maths, maybe someone has experience with boxing markets which might be similar.

I suggest £20 @ 9/4 (Ladbrokes) Demetrious Johnson to defeat Joe Benavidez at UFC 152.

I've suggested a couple of other bets in my article if anyone fancies a sweat this evening: http://www.thefightlounge.co.uk/news/ufc-152-beat-the-bookmakers/
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« Reply #289 on: October 14, 2012, 02:57:21 AM »

It's TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (Almost Cheesy)

This Sicilia fight was really great, both of them just going at it Rocky style!!
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« Reply #290 on: October 14, 2012, 03:12:46 AM »

Marky, I've gave u a few duffs recently and missed u out on the coup last time out but Silva 1st round 2/1 is very nice. Also Texeira by (T)KO 11/5 and Nog (T)KO 5/1 are the bets tonight.
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« Reply #291 on: October 14, 2012, 05:08:53 AM »

Great fights tonight, that Texeira fight was incred!
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« Reply #292 on: October 15, 2012, 01:30:14 PM »

Best card in ages.
Silva showed again while he's the greatest. I've heard a few people echo what Rogan was saying that Silva was showing disdain for Bonnar by going back to the cage, hands down, but I didn't see it that way.
No point circling out and backing off, as Bonnar will just chase.
No poimt pushing back, as Bonnar is too big and strong.
you could tell Bonnar was confused by the rope-a-dope antics.

I know Silva is adamant that he doesn't want to fight Jones, but they have to pursuade him. Makes a lot more sense than a catchweight one-off with GSP.
GSP coming off a long lay off, needing to reassert himself in the WW division. Lose/Lose for Silva
Where as, Jones is dominant at LHW, with no immediate credible threats.
Come on Dana, make it happen.
Would love to see Jones knocked off
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« Reply #293 on: October 18, 2012, 07:04:43 PM »

That's the fight everyone wants to see Anderson Silva v Jon Jones! Really hope it happens
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« Reply #294 on: October 18, 2012, 07:29:35 PM »

Unlikely it'll happen now with the Jones v Chael TUF/Fight just announced.
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« Reply #295 on: October 18, 2012, 07:54:23 PM »

Unlikely it'll happen now with the Jones v Chael TUF/Fight just announced.

Dana is gonna put it on them to get it on though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLoCwHkFsm4

(Won't let me link the video directly)
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« Reply #296 on: October 19, 2012, 08:09:20 AM »

Unlikely it'll happen now with the Jones v Chael TUF/Fight just announced.

I just heard that.
Epic!

The tele-conference was brilliant. Sonnen's comments on how tough the TUF tournaments are, were really good. Dana and the FX exec on the call must have been elated with that statement. He was then on great form for the rest of the call in his comments about Jones and all the top 205 fighters. Really looking forward to the season and for a change, will really be rooting for Sonnen in the fight. I'm always a bit an ABJ supporter (Anyone But Jones) but this time, even more so. I'm sure Sonnen will come across really well as a coach, and I fully expect Jones to come over as a complete douche.

On the subject of TUF, I'm really enjoying the contrast between the UKvAus TUF and the concurrent US TUF. Even though the rivallry is intense in the Smashes, both sets of fighters still show considerably more class than the American jocks.
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« Reply #297 on: November 17, 2012, 10:04:26 AM »

GSP is back tonight!!!! Can't wait.

Got a few views on best bets, anyone else backing anything?

http://www.thefightlounge.co.uk/news/ufc-154-beat-the-bookmakers
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« Reply #298 on: November 23, 2012, 11:16:12 AM »

Finally got caught up on Sky+ and watched the main eventlast night.
Fantastic return by GSP.
Shame drawn rounds are so rare in MMA scoring, because I think Condit could easily have been given a share of rounds 3 and 4.
As it was only 1 judge gave him half a round.

haven' had chance to trawl the pressers yet.
Any suggestions as to what next for GSP, the division, the Anderson superfight, etc?
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« Reply #299 on: November 28, 2012, 04:31:42 AM »

Finally got caught up on Sky+ and watched the main eventlast night.
Fantastic return by GSP.
Shame drawn rounds are so rare in MMA scoring, because I think Condit could easily have been given a share of rounds 3 and 4.
As it was only 1 judge gave him half a round.

haven' had chance to trawl the pressers yet.
Any suggestions as to what next for GSP, the division, the Anderson superfight, etc?

Youve probs looked it up by now but it appears to be either Hendricks or superfight with Anderson

Speaking of Superfights, Anderson has been offered chance to have a superfight with GSP or Jon Jones, I feel like he is being a total bitch by going for the smaller guy especially he has has fought 2 LHWs recently
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