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« Reply #116715 on: April 28, 2016, 10:54:17 PM »

i aint no betting expert but surely they cant palp it

if its been on offer for so long otherwise they are just freerolling spurs winning the title
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« Reply #116716 on: April 28, 2016, 10:55:40 PM »

100% to be palped if you backed it now. Worse, freerolled then palped.
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« Reply #116717 on: April 28, 2016, 11:01:50 PM »

betbright close account when you have a straight bet on a major event which wins.  You might as well just email them and say you want your account closing at least then you don't risk losing out financially when they don't pay you.
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« Reply #116718 on: April 28, 2016, 11:18:07 PM »

Russian GP this weekend!

I don't really have time to do a proper write up tonight, but pre-Friday suggestions are:

Rosberg Race Winner - £20 @ 13/8
Rosberg Pole - £20 @ 11/8
Perez Points Finish - £50 @ 6/4

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one

Above evens would be fine on all three.
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« Reply #116719 on: April 29, 2016, 02:03:08 AM »

Wonder what 'Thirsty Thursday' will conjure up this week.....
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« Reply #116720 on: April 29, 2016, 05:18:56 AM »

Last week i wrote up the NFL draft for elsewhere. Many of those prices didn't last too long, markets are thin

I almost added another recommendation at the time but bottled out of it a bit, but news over the weekend means i think its now a runner

We would be, if we do it, opposing a 1/14 favourite. Which would be a notch for our betting bedpost.

Myles Jack is a linebacker. We can watch film of him and see that he is exceptionally good. Think Ray Lewis without the propensity to shoot people

Look for No. 30.



Early in the 2015 season he tore his meniscus in practice and was out for the year

Since then there has been a constant debate about his knee, how healthy he is, will it affect his career, what does that mean for his draft position etc etc

Unlike a simple ACL etc its not an easy injury, the effects linger

Jack did participate at the combine

but medical re-checks afterwards have come back mixed, plenty of interpretations

Teams picking in the first round of the draft are making a 5 year commitment worth many millions of dollars to a player they pick there. A mistake in the first round can set back any franchise operating within a salary cap as you can't not pay him and allocate the money elsewhere if he is injured - unless he is forced to retire

So here is the market

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl-specials/nfl-draft/1st-outside-linebacker-drafted

OLB is a tricky market because you have pure pass rushers and more traditional all rounders who can cover, stop the run and pass rush etc

I follow the Dallas Cowboys closely and when they came to London i met up with a few of their beat writers over the week and have been in contact with them periodically since (i pester them on social media, they reply). Over the weekend one told me that the Cowboys had moved Jack to a "sub board" and flagged him for the injury as not being selectable in the draft

all nfl teams construct a draft board, an order of players ranked in the draft from which they make their selections. putting a player on a sub board is significant

Then this came out last night

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/04/report-myles-jack-chondral-defect-right-knee/

we can only make a judgement on betting value here, not really know if the chondral defect is a career limiter or not but the crucial point is

"Breer also reported that teams outside of the top 10 are researching the injury thinking the linebacker could fall to them"

Yet Jack is 1/14 to be first drafted at his position. He's not 1/14 if he's getting out of the top 10

Against him we have two players who i think should be drafted in the top 20

Leonard Floyd from Georgia is a pure pass rusher

Darron Lee from Ohio State is more of a middle linebacker than can play outside

We have a bit of cross-year comparison to help us here as Lee replaced Ryan Shazier at Ohio State and Shazier was drafted at 15 by the Steelers two years ago. Similar players, same position

I think, only a guess from draft visits to various teams that the Miami Dolphins might draft Lee at 14 if Elliott the running back is not available

Floyd could go 10-14 at his highest, maybe the Giants the first candidate for him at 10

So, we might not get much on and i don't know enough to oppose Jack with a single player but I think dutching the pair Floyd and Lee at 9-1 with Ladbrokes could be very interesting come Thursday night

Recommend £x try for £20 each and see Darron Lee/Leonard Floyd First OLB Drafted 9-1 Ladbrokes

(I exclude Noah Spence, a very talented pass rusher. Spence got kicked off ohio state's football program for failing two drug tests and is a bit of an oddity in this market, he's a defensive end. if he gets drafted ahead of all three of jack/lee and floyd with his risk profile, good luck to Ladbrokes)
  
  



Floyd went 9, Lee 20, jack unpicked through 29 picks
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« Reply #116721 on: April 29, 2016, 09:26:45 AM »

Last week i wrote up the NFL draft for elsewhere. Many of those prices didn't last too long, markets are thin

I almost added another recommendation at the time but bottled out of it a bit, but news over the weekend means i think its now a runner

We would be, if we do it, opposing a 1/14 favourite. Which would be a notch for our betting bedpost.

Myles Jack is a linebacker. We can watch film of him and see that he is exceptionally good. Think Ray Lewis without the propensity to shoot people

Look for No. 30.



Early in the 2015 season he tore his meniscus in practice and was out for the year

Since then there has been a constant debate about his knee, how healthy he is, will it affect his career, what does that mean for his draft position etc etc

Unlike a simple ACL etc its not an easy injury, the effects linger

Jack did participate at the combine

but medical re-checks afterwards have come back mixed, plenty of interpretations

Teams picking in the first round of the draft are making a 5 year commitment worth many millions of dollars to a player they pick there. A mistake in the first round can set back any franchise operating within a salary cap as you can't not pay him and allocate the money elsewhere if he is injured - unless he is forced to retire

So here is the market

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl-specials/nfl-draft/1st-outside-linebacker-drafted

OLB is a tricky market because you have pure pass rushers and more traditional all rounders who can cover, stop the run and pass rush etc

I follow the Dallas Cowboys closely and when they came to London i met up with a few of their beat writers over the week and have been in contact with them periodically since (i pester them on social media, they reply). Over the weekend one told me that the Cowboys had moved Jack to a "sub board" and flagged him for the injury as not being selectable in the draft

all nfl teams construct a draft board, an order of players ranked in the draft from which they make their selections. putting a player on a sub board is significant

Then this came out last night

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/04/report-myles-jack-chondral-defect-right-knee/

we can only make a judgement on betting value here, not really know if the chondral defect is a career limiter or not but the crucial point is

"Breer also reported that teams outside of the top 10 are researching the injury thinking the linebacker could fall to them"

Yet Jack is 1/14 to be first drafted at his position. He's not 1/14 if he's getting out of the top 10

Against him we have two players who i think should be drafted in the top 20

Leonard Floyd from Georgia is a pure pass rusher

Darron Lee from Ohio State is more of a middle linebacker than can play outside

We have a bit of cross-year comparison to help us here as Lee replaced Ryan Shazier at Ohio State and Shazier was drafted at 15 by the Steelers two years ago. Similar players, same position

I think, only a guess from draft visits to various teams that the Miami Dolphins might draft Lee at 14 if Elliott the running back is not available

Floyd could go 10-14 at his highest, maybe the Giants the first candidate for him at 10

So, we might not get much on and i don't know enough to oppose Jack with a single player but I think dutching the pair Floyd and Lee at 9-1 with Ladbrokes could be very interesting come Thursday night

Recommend £x try for £20 each and see Darron Lee/Leonard Floyd First OLB Drafted 9-1 Ladbrokes

(I exclude Noah Spence, a very talented pass rusher. Spence got kicked off ohio state's football program for failing two drug tests and is a bit of an oddity in this market, he's a defensive end. if he gets drafted ahead of all three of jack/lee and floyd with his risk profile, good luck to Ladbrokes)
  
  



Floyd went 9, Lee 20, jack unpicked through 29 picks

Another notch on your bedpost Tighty.

Thank you.
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« Reply #116722 on: April 29, 2016, 09:30:56 AM »


Amazing spot Rich, shame we could not get on.

Brave stuff to oppose a 1/14 shot & then get both picks home.
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« Reply #116723 on: April 29, 2016, 09:45:41 AM »

Its what I love about this place.

Im still not sure what I have backed, but Laddies have made a rare deposit into my account.

Cheers Tighty
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« Reply #116724 on: April 29, 2016, 10:32:01 AM »

Russian GP this weekend!

I don't really have time to do a proper write up tonight, but pre-Friday suggestions are:

Rosberg Race Winner - £20 @ 13/8
Rosberg Pole - £20 @ 11/8
Perez Points Finish - £50 @ 6/4

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one

Above evens would be fine on all three.

        Bet Type: Single
            Russian GP - Race Winner Outright Winner
                Nico Rosberg 13/10
        Possible Payout (inc. stake) 46.00 GBP
    1 bet @
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    Total Cost: 20.00 GBP
    Total Possible Payout (inc. stake): 46.00 GBP


the other prices are not up currently, will have to check later
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« Reply #116725 on: April 29, 2016, 12:28:44 PM »

Pleno/Palace people might enjoy this:

http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=117585&headline=Crystal%20Palace%20man%20looking%20for%20summer%20exit%20after
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« Reply #116726 on: April 29, 2016, 12:33:37 PM »


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« Reply #116727 on: April 29, 2016, 12:52:04 PM »

can you really back e/w still on winning the epl this season?


Not on hills AFAICS

Looks like you can on Betbright still. 21/2 for Spurs. 1/3 odds... So 23/10 to place? Seems a bit ridiculous

odds offered on Leicester and spurs?

Yup 1/25 and 21/2

so your getting free money on the leicester e/w part

someone tell arrboy

mind you its betbright and they havent got a squesky clean rep asfaik

Surely they will just palp it?

I'm being stupid here/playing devils advocate - but, are we saying there is absolutely no chance wills or bbright will pay out on this bet if placed? even at relatively small stakes?
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« Reply #116728 on: April 29, 2016, 12:53:54 PM »

        Bet Type: Single
            Russian GP - Points Finish Points Finish
                Perez, Sergio 11/8
        Possible Payout (inc. stake) 118.75 GBP
    1 bet @
    50.00 GBP

    Total Cost: 50.00 GBP
    Total Possible Payout (inc. stake): 118.75 GBP


Nico Rosberg Russian Grand Prix Pole Position
11/10
Total Stake: £20.00
Total Returns: £42.00
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« Reply #116729 on: April 29, 2016, 01:32:53 PM »

can you really back e/w still on winning the epl this season?


Not on hills AFAICS

Looks like you can on Betbright still. 21/2 for Spurs. 1/3 odds... So 23/10 to place? Seems a bit ridiculous

odds offered on Leicester and spurs?

Yup 1/25 and 21/2

so your getting free money on the leicester e/w part

someone tell arrboy

mind you its betbright and they havent got a squesky clean rep asfaik

Surely they will just palp it?

I'm being stupid here/playing devils advocate - but, are we saying there is absolutely no chance wills or bbright will pay out on this bet if placed? even at relatively small stakes?

Of course there is a chance that BB pay out.   There is also a chance they free roll you and close your account.  In addition when I went to their website, though there appeared to be an e/w button, I couldn't see any mention of the e/w terms.

There was no chance Hills would pay out, as e/w wasn't available on their website. 

I wouldn't assume that everything on odds checker is correct and personally always check on the bookmaker's site
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