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[Chompy]

 

£25 Chicago Bears to win 23/10 William Mounts

£25 Chiago Bears to win H-T / F-T 9/2 Sid James

 

chompy

remind me if you can remember im sure there was a race there a number of years back when a record number of horses traded sub 1/3 or something similar

Wouldn't be at all surprised. I've fond memories of the place.

[TightEnd]

attn The Camel

The R5L interview with Pendleton today was good.

Self harming. Slagging off coaches. Brutal in places

http://bbc.in/ceWoaF

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[david3103]

attn The Camel

The R5L interview with Pendleton today was good.

Self harming. Slagging off coaches. Brutal in places

http://bbc.in/ceWoaF

Click to see full-size image.

I didn't get the Pendleton until I saw that picture. Cycling porn, who'd have thought it.

Good to hear someone so high profile talking about self-harm so openly. Such a misunderstood thing, and so hard to deal with when someone you love is taking that route.

[Tonji]

Nope, plan didn't come together in the end when Tiernen Locke's team mate crashed late to break up the drive in the final kilometres. Finished in the bunch after a rider held off from a break in the last 5km.

[redarmi]

Some interesting NFL views in the thread today.  I have a confession to make.  I don't know that much about the NFL and I spend less than a couple of hours a week on it.  I have bet on the sport since 1998 and have won in 13 out of 14 seasons and my approach is fairly simple.  When I watch ESPN or read the press on the NFL and someone says a side are brilliant, "this QB is going to be a hall of famer" or when every pundit agrees a team are going to win I put them in my notebook as a team I want to be against.  Conversely, and often more importantly, when I hear about a team sucking or having the potential to be winless I put them in my notebook as a team I want bet on.  When two such teams play each other I have a bet.  I often bet on the perceived bad sides irrespective and I often take double digits handicaps and get beat by 15-20 points.....I tend to like these teams even more the next week.  I suppose what i am trying to say is that winning betting on the NFL is less about understanding the teams and the sport (although this is undoubtedly useful) and more about handicapping the public betting on it.  Specifically on tonights game my view on the side would be that the public will be fairly split down the middle between those who think that Green Bay are unstoppable, Sunday was just a blip or they can't possibly lose two in a row and those that actually saw them on Sunday and want to be against.  In general I would think the public would want to be on Green Bay and if it went as far as 6.5 and i could buy the hook to 7 I would do that otherwise I could leave it and concentrate on some of the prop bets we have looked at already.  The total is more interesting though.  I have read about 5 or 6 previews of the game tonight and every single one mentioned the offenses in its opening paragraph.  The consensus reports currently show 74% of bets are on the over and it may well go higher.  On the unders side there are a couple of points that everyone betting overs seems to be overlooking.  Greg Jennings the GB star receiver and Rodgers go to guy is very doubtful and there is a 50% chance of rain.    My biggest question marks would be the fact that there are corners out for both teams and GB have no run at all so might have to throw even if they are up late but on balance I like unders but think i want 52 or 52.5 to make it a bet.

[pleno1]

going to look at odds now, but wigan v man utd could be value, rvp, kagawa, rooney, jones and others all out, wigan have potential to be good.

9's in alot of places, can get 14s at blue square

Manchester United (-3) Handicap      6.0   7.5
Manchester United (-4) Handicap      2.5   4.0
Manchester United (-1) Handicap      16.5   18.0
Manchester United (-2) Handicap      10.5   12.0
Wigan Athletic (-1) Handicap      0.5   1.5

[c4ught]

going to look at odds now, but wigan v man utd could be value, rvp, kagawa, rooney, jones and others all out, wigan have potential to be good.

9's in alot of places, can get 14s at blue square

Manchester United (-3) Handicap      6.0   7.5
Manchester United (-4) Handicap      2.5   4.0
Manchester United (-1) Handicap      16.5   18.0
Manchester United (-2) Handicap      10.5   12.0
Wigan Athletic (-1) Handicap      0.5   1.5

13:05 We'll have injury updates and team news from Sir Alex Ferguson's pre-match press conference in Today at Old Trafford on Friday. Make sure you come back here from just after 12:00 BST. (GT)

Are you 100% sure RVP and Kagawa are out? First home game of the season so I am holding out hope he isn't injured 

The defense though has not looked solid yet this season.

[david3103]

going to look at odds now, but wigan v man utd could be value, rvp, kagawa, rooney, jones and others all out, wigan have potential to be good.

9's in alot of places, can get 14s at blue square

Manchester United (-3) Handicap      6.0   7.5
Manchester United (-4) Handicap      2.5   4.0
Manchester United (-1) Handicap      16.5   18.0
Manchester United (-2) Handicap      10.5   12.0
Wigan Athletic (-1) Handicap      0.5   1.5

13:05 We'll have injury updates and team news from Sir Alex Ferguson's pre-match press conference in Today at Old Trafford on Friday. Make sure you come back here from just after 12:00 BST. (GT)

Are you 100% sure RVP and Kagawa are out? First home game of the season so I am holding out hope he isn't injured  

The defense though has not looked solid yet this season.

RVP taken off 'as a precaution', and Kagawa missed game through a 'twinge in the back' in training...

14-1 is generous though, and if the MUFC defence continue to play as though they have only just been introduced to each other, Wigan are likely to score, but not likely to score less than they concede. With or without RVP & Kagawa in the home team.

Price for both to score anyone?

[Doobs]

going to look at odds now, but wigan v man utd could be value, rvp, kagawa, rooney, jones and others all out, wigan have potential to be good.

9's in alot of places, can get 14s at blue square

Manchester United (-3) Handicap      6.0   7.5
Manchester United (-4) Handicap      2.5   4.0
Manchester United (-1) Handicap      16.5   18.0
Manchester United (-2) Handicap      10.5   12.0
Wigan Athletic (-1) Handicap      0.5   1.5

13:05 We'll have injury updates and team news from Sir Alex Ferguson's pre-match press conference in Today at Old Trafford on Friday. Make sure you come back here from just after 12:00 BST. (GT)

Are you 100% sure RVP and Kagawa are out? First home game of the season so I am holding out hope he isn't injured  

The defense though has not looked solid yet this season.

RVP taken off 'as a precaution', and Kagawa missed game through a 'twinge in the back' in training...

14-1 is generous though, and if the MUFC defence continue to play as though they have only just been introduced to each other, Wigan are likely to score, but not likely to score less than they concede. With or without RVP & Kagawa in the home team.

Price for both to score anyone?

14/1 beats the betfair price, so is probably a good price, hence I have banzai'd it. 

I assume both to score is pretty short, so shouldn't we be assuming less goals if RVP is out?  I guess Man U don't manage many 0-0s at home though, but it is 25/1 if anyone is interested in a super banzai.

 

[redarmi]

I would definitely rather go under goals in some format than back Wigan.  They don't have much firepower and Fergie will have spent his time over the int break figuring out how to shore up his defence.  Furthermore like my post on the NFL earlier everything I read on United focuses on how they are leaking goals and it is definitely shaded to the overs now and that will be the mugs play.  I like unders and will definitely be on at some point and the 0-0 doesn't seem awful at 25-1 but I haven't done the maths on it.

[T_Mar]

I would definitely rather go under goals in some format than back Wigan.  They don't have much firepower and Fergie will have spent his time over the int break figuring out how to shore up his defence.  Furthermore like my post on the NFL earlier everything I read on United focuses on how they are leaking goals and it is definitely shaded to the overs now and that will be the mugs play.  I like unders and will definitely be on at some point and the 0-0 doesn't seem awful at 25-1 but I haven't done the maths on it.

Not commenting either way on the bet ,but pretty  sure fergie been in NYC cheering Murray on amongst otherthings

[rfgqqabc]

I would definitely rather go under goals in some format than back Wigan.  They don't have much firepower and Fergie will have spent his time over the int break figuring out how to shore up his defence.  Furthermore like my post on the NFL earlier everything I read on United focuses on how they are leaking goals and it is definitely shaded to the overs now and that will be the mugs play.  I like unders and will definitely be on at some point and the 0-0 doesn't seem awful at 25-1 but I haven't done the maths on it.

In regards to your thoughts on NFL, isn't it +ev to blind oppose, Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal/City? Esp as the weight of money is in favour of those teams?

[Tal]

Would just like to point out that TightEnd in commentary tonight on that telly channel has just said "he's just ceded the initiative by limping"

Ceded.

Not a big watcher of that channel but it's turning into BBC4!

[redarmi]

I would definitely rather go under goals in some format than back Wigan.  They don't have much firepower and Fergie will have spent his time over the int break figuring out how to shore up his defence.  Furthermore like my post on the NFL earlier everything I read on United focuses on how they are leaking goals and it is definitely shaded to the overs now and that will be the mugs play.  I like unders and will definitely be on at some point and the 0-0 doesn't seem awful at 25-1 but I haven't done the maths on it.

In regards to your thoughts on NFL, isn't it +ev to blind oppose, Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal/City? Esp as the weight of money is in favour of those teams?

Soccer market isn't that easy anymore but once upon a time in Asia it was almost certainly possible.  I still tend to be against those teams much more often than I am on them on handicaps though so it probably isnt a bad starting point.

[horseplayer]

i posted a long while back now that backing those four sides blind mentioned at price at kick off in the last 4 seasons showed a small profit