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[Snowball]

Re Pipe

It's quite ridic imo that anyone thinks they have a right to moan when they play him. He is a slow player, what is he supposed to do, quicken up to suit them?

Nick Faldo always makes a great point re slow play in golf, if the other guy is playing slowly but well within the rules and the allowed time and it is annoying you then it is you that owns the problem, not the guy that is playing slower than you want him to play.

Its the same with Pipe, I don't understand what the relevance  is in how quickly he throws the darts.

Which Players have been moaning Bobby?

Well the most public one would be Newton. Didn't he apologise for the way he handled himself in a match v Pipe?

Yeah I think he did and it's pretty pathetic as he knows more than most the style of play he was up against.Their seems to be a lot more niggle in matches now and thats to be expected with the Prize Money on offer.
Great match that but it's dissapointing one had to lose espeacially when Pipe bores his way to victory with a just over 80 average in the previous match.

[AceHighSuited]

Who had the problem there?

Pipe, the guy is the polar opposite of what darts is about.  He should be chased out the game imo.

[horseplayer]

great stuff from Thornton

i look forward to hearing which excuse taylor will use tonight

a great sportsman a very bad loser

[horseplayer]

bit harsh on pipe "chased out the game"

if the ruling authorities think he is playing to the rules then he is, much worse goes on up there nattering when throwing e.t.c

[AceHighSuited]

Wow, what a wonderful match that Taylor - Thornton jobbie was!

Respect to Thornton who toughed it out, and never flinched in the face of Taylor pressure.

Taylor blinked first, Thornton held his nerve. Proper sport that.

Spot on sir.  An amazing match, on the other thread i am trying the spin up with Milli and Co and had Thornton with highest check out which he had with 104.  Nice result for me and for Robert.  

[Snowball]

Sports Psychology: Wes Newton - The Justin Pipe Effect!
It's the second round of the World Darts Championships at Alexandra Palace. And the match between Fleetwood's Wes Newton and Taunton's Justin Pipe, is hotting up.

At two sets all, Newton is allowing his irritation at Pipe's slow and deliberate style of play to show. Behind Pipe's back, Newton is tapping his watch, Alex Ferguson style, to let us know that he is unhappy with the West Countryman's speed of play.

Then Newton feigns falling asleep, as his simmering frustration gets the better of him. Of course, with these distractions, the world number five's game suffers, and he crashes out of the tournament.

It's a match he could have won with something to spare. At two-nil up he held all the aces. But the Fleetwood thrower made a big mistake.

He clearly hadn't mentally prepared for the special challenge of playing Justin Pipe. Newton is a fast quick player. Pipe isn't. And Newton cant change the speed Pipe plays at. He has to adjust to it.

That means changing his routine whilst he waits to throw. Slowing himself down and exercising patience. Knowing exactly what to expect and preparing for it.

Newton knows exactly what to expect, but has simply not prepared for it. He has no process to keep his mind engaged whilst he waits to throw. It's almost as if he is bored!

As a result frustration holds sway. What he is feeling on the inside, reveals itself on the outside. Perhaps with it being the World Championships, Newton is simply too fired up. His internal speeds are just too fast for a game against Justin Pipe.

Wes Newton may have the talent to win a World Championships. But he doesn't yet have the mentality. For the mentality of a champion, allows you to find strategies to win against difficult or awkward opponents.

In years to come, perhaps Newton will be thankful for the lessons that defeat against Justin Pipe taught him. But for now, he has to live with the uncomfortable feeling, that with a World Title to fight for, he let undeveloped emotions get the better of him.

That's exactly how that match played out.

[bobby1]

Re Pipe

It's quite ridic imo that anyone thinks they have a right to moan when they play him. He is a slow player, what is he supposed to do, quicken up to suit them?

Nick Faldo always makes a great point re slow play in golf, if the other guy is playing slowly but well within the rules and the allowed time and it is annoying you then it is you that owns the problem, not the guy that is playing slower than you want him to play.

Its the same with Pipe, I don't understand what the relevance  is in how quickly he throws the darts.

Which Players have been moaning Bobby?

Well the most public one would be Newton. Didn't he apologise for the way he handled himself in a match v Pipe?

Yeah I think he did and it's pretty pathetic as he knows more than most the style of play he was up against.Their seems to be a lot more niggle in matches now and thats to be expected with the Prize Money on offer.
Great match that but it's dissapointing one had to lose espeacially when Pipe bores his way to victory with a just over 80 average in the previous match.

Chris Small used to get the same stick in his snooker matches, his opponents would complain about how methodical he was and how little risk he took in his matches making them tight and long.

Why is that seen as a bad thing, if you get in and make a 90 break in 5 minutes you win a frame. If you make three 35 breaks in 30 minutes you win a frame, when was it decided that playing fast was important, that's the bit I don't get.

[bobby1]

Who had the problem there?

Pipe, the guy is the polar opposite of what darts is about.  He should be chased out the game imo.

Sorry but thats just ridic.

[Snowball]

It looked like Pipe and Painter were going to go Toe to Toe after the match as Painter wasn't happy with Pipe's celebrations and not shaking his Hand.
Pipe's now apologised and shared a Beer with him.All has been cleared up on Twitter, i'm sure Sky ain't happy as they could have advertised their next meeting as a grudge match like they done with Lewis and Manley for their next 20 games after they had a fallout at the Worlds a few years back.

[The Camel]

Re Pipe

It's quite ridic imo that anyone thinks they have a right to moan when they play him. He is a slow player, what is he supposed to do, quicken up to suit them?

Nick Faldo always makes a great point re slow play in golf, if the other guy is playing slowly but well within the rules and the allowed time and it is annoying you then it is you that owns the problem, not the guy that is playing slower than you want him to play.

Its the same with Pipe, I don't understand what the relevance  is in how quickly he throws the darts.

Which Players have been moaning Bobby?

Well the most public one would be Newton. Didn't he apologise for the way he handled himself in a match v Pipe?

Yeah I think he did and it's pretty pathetic as he knows more than most the style of play he was up against.Their seems to be a lot more niggle in matches now and thats to be expected with the Prize Money on offer.
Great match that but it's dissapointing one had to lose espeacially when Pipe bores his way to victory with a just over 80 average in the previous match.

Chris Small used to get the same stick in his snooker matches, his opponents would complain about how methodical he was and how little risk he took in his matches making them tight and long.

Why is that seen as a bad thing, if you get in and make a 90 break in 5 minutes you win a frame. If you make three 35 breaks in 30 minutes you win a frame, when was it decided that playing fast was important, that's the bit I don't get.

Snooker is a completely different animal.

Far more variables to consider when deciding which shot to play.

Having said that I wouldn't pay to see Chris Small take on Rex Williams.

Just throwing 3 darts into a board should not take as long as this tortoise takes.

[AceHighSuited]

Why is that seen as a bad thing, if you get in and make a 90 break in 5 minutes you win a frame. If you make three 35 breaks in 30 minutes you win a frame, when was it decided that playing fast was important, that's the bit I don't get.

When millions started being invested in these minority sports by sky and others, why do you think they have come up with tournaments in snooker on the stewardship of Hearn that have shot clocks and such like now.  

Who is really going to tune in and watch turgid affairs.  

In snooker for example, I like to see a good tactical display from players, I don't want players who take an unnecessary amount of time to play one shot.  The same way I hate when I am playing poker and the same player hollywood's every decision.  Get these types out the game imo, let them play in there local pubs and clubs, pretty sure that sort of game wouldn't go down well there either.

[bobby1]

Why is that seen as a bad thing, if you get in and make a 90 break in 5 minutes you win a frame. If you make three 35 breaks in 30 minutes you win a frame, when was it decided that playing fast was important, that's the bit I don't get.

When millions started being invested in these minority sports by sky and others, why do you think they have come up with tournaments in snooker on the stewardship of Hearn that have shot clocks and such like now.  

Who is really going to tune in and watch turgid affairs.  

In snooker for example, I like to see a good tactical display from players, I don't want players who take an unnecessary amount of time to play one shot.  The same way I hate when I am playing poker and the same player hollywood's every decision.  Get these types out the game imo, let them play in there local pubs and clubs, pretty sure that sort of game wouldn't go down well there either.

So who has the problem there?

It makes no sense.

[The Camel]

Did Fred back Van Gerwin?

Long time since I've seen a darts tournament look so wide open.

[Snowball]

Did Fred back Van Gerwin?

Long time since I've seen a darts tournament look so wide open.

I'm pretty certain that's a negative, think it's he's just on him for the Worlds.
Lewis v Van Gerwen should be another cracker tomorrow night.

[Karabiner]

Rex Williams was mustard for that season he was on the beta-blockers.