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[TightEnd]

St Leger

I think it is the next declaration stage today and 43 remain

Ladbrokes prices and now I see others do not include Telescope, and I think Stoute has said 10f for the Juddmonte is next. Should I be taking this St Leger bet as a loss, Chompy?

We also have Libertarian 8/1 ew Leading Light 10/1

the current ante post prices are at http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/ante-post-racing/flat/st-leger/winner

[tikay]

Hungarian Grand Prix

Plenty of variables here

-  New Tyre specs (2012 construction with 2013 compounds)

- New Pit Lane speed regulations

- Very hot conditions

Testing of the new Pirellis at last week’s Young Driver Test in Silverstone showed that these new tyres degrade less than the ones they are replacing, so – heat permitting – it will lead teams to want to run with as few stops as possible.

This coincides with new safety measures which come in after the incident with a flying wheel in Germany. As a result the pit lane speed limit has been lowered to 80km/h from 100km/h which will add over three seconds to the time needed to make a pit stop. This makes multiple stops less attractive.

With a heatwave in Europe, it could be one of the hottest Grands Prix on record. The forecast is for temperatures around 38-40 degrees

What does this mean?

Its a tight track with one DRS overtaking opportunity. The Mercedes performs badly in hot weather, its rear tyres degrade and it was banned from the Young Drivers Test which Hamilton is quoted as saying was very significant, as it gave them no chance to experiment with these new tyres and their problems at high temperature. Notwithstanding its ability to get on pole with fast one lap pace its reasonable to expect them not to hold on in the race, at these temperatures. In cold weather it might be different.

Red Bull is suited as its a high downforce track. However backing Vettel at 6/4 with this number of variables in this race in particular doesn't strike me as value

Ferrari suffering for pace. Manage their tyres well but no signs of mixing it in practice so as to give them a shot in the race


Which leaves Lotus

Famously able to do less pit stops than the other front runners as the car, aerodynamically, is light on its tyes. With hot weather, new pit regulations penalising those who need to stop more it should give both cars scope to perform well

The circuit and temperatures should suit Lotus, which ran Red Bull very close in Germany (both cars on the podium) and they have to be the close to pre-race favourites if they can qualify in the top two rows of the grid. Raikkonen finished a strong second in Budapest last year behind Lewis Hamilton, despite starting fifth on the grid.

Last year Raikkonen did two stints on the soft, including 25 laps in the second stint, when other cars struggled for 15 laps a set. A repeat of something like this on the new tyres, with each pit stop costing more time than previously, would see Raikkonen very close to winning this


Recommendations

Raikkonen £10 e/w at 6-1 1/5 1,2,3  decent shot at a win with a podium saver

Grosjean £5 ew at 20-1 1/5 1,2,3 podium value

Boylesports, Ladbrokes etc

Thanks Rich. Good analysis, & despite our poor record in F1, I'm confident we are going the right way now.

We have.....

£10 EW Raikonen @ 6/1, Ladbrokes. (Fifth, 1,2,3).

£5 EW Grosjean @ 20/1, Ladbrokes. (Fifth, 1,2,3).

ON

K. Raikkonen
Hungarian Grand Prix

 Singles - Race Winner - Each Way

2 lines @ £10.0 per line
.
Total Stake £20.00

Potential Return £92.00

Receipt No: O/142640973/0000360




 20/1
R. Grosjean
Hungarian Grand Prix

 Singles - Race Winner - Each Way

2 lines @ £5.0 per line
.
Total Stake £10.00

Potential Return £130.00

Receipt No: O/142640973/0000361

[TightEnd]

More musings

There are five Yorkshire sides in the Championship

Leeds
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Doncaster
Sheff Wed

can anyone see a realistic alternative to Leeds as the "Top Yorkshire club" this season?

I can, at the prices....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-yorkshire-club

[tikay]

More musings

There are five Yorkshire sides in the Championship

Leeds
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Doncaster
Sheff Wed

can anyone see a realistic alternative to Leeds as the "Top Yorkshire club" this season?

I can, at the prices....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-yorkshire-club

6 Teams surely - is Middlesborough not in Yorkshire?

[TightEnd]

More musings

There are five Yorkshire sides in the Championship

Leeds
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Doncaster
Sheff Wed

can anyone see a realistic alternative to Leeds as the "Top Yorkshire club" this season?

I can, at the prices....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-yorkshire-club

6 Teams surely - is Middlesborough not in Yorkshire?

Yes and No, depends if you are a bookie or not

[tikay]

More musings

There are five Yorkshire sides in the Championship

Leeds
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Doncaster
Sheff Wed

can anyone see a realistic alternative to Leeds as the "Top Yorkshire club" this season?

I can, at the prices....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-yorkshire-club

6 Teams surely - is Middlesborough not in Yorkshire?

Yes and No, depends if you are a bookie or not

Well only Stan James think M'Boro is in Yorkshire, it seems......

PS - And me.

[JaffaCake]

I've decided that as dedicated Freddies that we should be going wherever Prince Charles is tomoro, opening a factory or whatever he does, and hassling him til he tells us the baby's name. Then straight on Betfair, get the lot on, Bob's your uncle. I'm a bit busy tomoro, can someone else do the Charlie hassling shift and pass on the info?

That comes under "Tosh, Novelty Betting, & Tittle Tattle" Jeff. Chompy is our man for that.

Where is he when the going gets tough? Tosser

[exstream]

More musings

There are five Yorkshire sides in the Championship

Leeds
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Doncaster
Sheff Wed

can anyone see a realistic alternative to Leeds as the "Top Yorkshire club" this season?

I can, at the prices....

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-yorkshire-club

Leeds seem horribly short for being 3 points ahead of Sheffield and Huddersfield last season. I don't keep track but have Leeds made many signings this summer?

[Tal]

Bryan Munich plays Ba C. Loner tonight in some preseason soccerball.

Munich have been in good preseason form and obviously favourites.

Barcelona - yes, Barcelona - available at 5/1 in places. Draw 100/30.

New manager syndrome worthy of investment? Catalans can't defend but have bolstered up front with a chap who showed good form against defenders who weren't up to marking.

Worthy of investment on Barcelona to win this evening?

[exstream]

Barca 7.4 betfair.

[tikay]

Bryan Munich plays Ba C. Loner tonight in some preseason soccerball.

Munich have been in good preseason form and obviously favourites.

Barcelona - yes, Barcelona - available at 5/1 in places. Draw 100/30.

New manager syndrome worthy of investment? Catalans can't defend but have bolstered up front with a chap who showed good form against defenders who weren't up to marking.

Worthy of investment on Barcelona to win this evening?

On the face of it, the daftest price ever, but we don't really know if they intend to take it seriously. They could be planning to change the team completely at HT, for example.

Even so, not too often we see Barca at prices like that.....

[Marky147]

Thought Mr Leonard was posting on Tal's account for a minute there

[tikay]

Thought Mr Leonard was posting on Tal's account for a minute there

Ha!

I had to read "Ba C Loner" twice before it made any sense.

The rest of it was reasonably accurate, so we can count Plinop out.

[Tal]

Thought Mr Leonard was posting on Tal's account for a minute there

Ha!

I had to read "Ba C Loner" twice before it made any sense.

The rest of it was reasonably accurate, so we can count Plinop out.

Extant! Extract!

Pernod in Maldives Accounting sandal!

[Tal]

Bryan Munich plays Ba C. Loner tonight in some preseason soccerball.

Munich have been in good preseason form and obviously favourites.

Barcelona - yes, Barcelona - available at 5/1 in places. Draw 100/30.

New manager syndrome worthy of investment? Catalans can't defend but have bolstered up front with a chap who showed good form against defenders who weren't up to marking.

Worthy of investment on Barcelona to win this evening?

On the face of it, the daftest price ever, but we don't really know if they intend to take it seriously. They could be planning to change the team completely at , for example.

Even so, not too often we see Barca at prices like that.....

In all seriousness, I'm not sure what to make of it. I can't imagine the bookies are all that far wrong, but if they should be 4/1 (a not unreasonable supposition, where home advantage is less important and neither side likely to be fielding full strength or match fit sides), we can value-nibble.

If someone - horsey, maldini, whoever - has a view on likely teams, performances and what have you, we might get a better indication of what the line should be.

Just putting it up for discussion.