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[Doobs]

FWIW I dont care who owns the bet, I am sure I have met Doobs in the past at some Betfair poker event, he can take the acclaim should Ted Veale win, with a free bet. dont bother me, just as long as he wins!!! Just hope that the ground aint bottomless like it was when at Galway!

Spudy has put this horse up plenty of times, so only fair he should have it.  

Can get 9/1 Paddy Power right now, and they have money back if 2nd to the favourite.   That adds a tiny bit to that 9/1 when he is still shorter than 9/1 on Betfair.  Why not put a tenner each way on that, which nicely solves the problem and gets another good price.  If thread can't get all of that you can have whatever you are short with honest Doobs bookmakers.

Edit.  16 runners now means we should forget the each way part.  Unfortunately some of us are stuck with it

[horseplayer]

York ground now soft and still raining

Looks like being heavy come race time

[Doobs]

York ground now soft and still raining

Looks like being heavy come race time

Do you think we could lose 4 here and end up with 15?  Might have to edit the earlier post?

I think the ground can't be so bad for Ted Veale, as he has won on heavy twice over hurdles, and looks food for the Stoute horse, but he has a lot of weight.  I wouldn't be so confident with Tiger Cliff.  Any thoughts on this, cheers.

[horseplayer]

York ground now soft and still raining

Looks like being heavy come race time

Do you think we could lose 4 here and end up with 15?  Might have to edit the earlier post?

I think the ground can't be so bad for Ted Veale, as he has won on heavy twice over hurdles, and looks food for the Stoute horse, but he has a lot of weight.  I wouldn't be so confident with Tiger Cliff.  Any thoughts on this, cheers.

Spent a long time on the Ebor, very hard race i think distinct lack of early pace with the likely leader not handling soft on only previous try.

Tiger Cliffs sire generally go a lot better on softer ground than not so i dont see it being a problem is an unknown though.

Should end up with the 16 at least i think

[BigAdz]

Struggling to find any with form that will appreciate soft heavy. There are a few with trainers suggesting they want soft but whose form doesn't. Could be a few withdraw, but also such deep prize money and plenty of them have targeted it.
Conundrum

[BigAdz]

Dustin Johnson update. Dire

Based on the fact we added the "happiness" factor to his chances, I now rate his long term future with Mr Gretzkeys daughter as poor, based on his underwhelming performance last couple of days

[kinboshi]

Is Hector about, and if so thoughts on the Challenge Cup final?

 Going to be a wet one, so that would suggest a lot of dropped ball (using the Rhino ball that is apparently like a bar of soap in the wet), and both sides have been guilty of quite a few mistakes in recent games.

Both sides have players returning to give them both close to their strongest squads on paper, although the fitness of some of the players can definitely be questioned - but isn't that always the case with rugby league players who seem to play through injuries and illness that'd keep footballers out for months. So on paper, recent form aside, Wigan should have the strongest side. It's at Wembley, and it's a big wide pitch, and again that should favour Wigan's style of play under Wane of getting the ball out wide as quickly as possible, bringing the centres and wingers into the game and also creating space for Sam Tomkins to exploit.

The question is how bad are Wigan at the moment? Is it just a case of the foot being taken off the gas once they couldn't finish below 4th in the league, or is it a case of the team genuinely going off the boil at the business end of the season again? I get the feeling it's actually a bit of both.

The bookies seem to think Wigan by about 8 points. It could be even closer than that imo. My heart says a Wigan win like back in 1985, but not sure what my head says.

Hector, it's over to you.

[TightEnd]

Is Hector about, and if so thoughts on the Challenge Cup final?

 Going to be a wet one, so that would suggest a lot of dropped ball (using the Rhino ball that is apparently like a bar of soap in the wet), and both sides have been guilty of quite a few mistakes in recent games.

Both sides have players returning to give them both close to their strongest squads on paper, although the fitness of some of the players can definitely be questioned - but isn't that always the case with rugby league players who seem to play through injuries and illness that'd keep footballers out for months. So on paper, recent form aside, Wigan should have the strongest side. It's at Wembley, and it's a big wide pitch, and again that should favour Wigan's style of play under Wane of getting the ball out wide as quickly as possible, bringing the centres and wingers into the game and also creating space for Sam Tomkins to exploit.

The question is how bad are Wigan at the moment? Is it just a case of the foot being taken off the gas once they couldn't finish below 4th in the league, or is it a case of the team genuinely going off the boil at the business end of the season again? I get the feeling it's actually a bit of both.

The bookies seem to think Wigan by about 8 points. It could be even closer than that imo. My heart says a Wigan win like back in 1985, but not sure what my head says.

Hector, it's over to you.

We are on Hull at 3.7 Betfair

[Doobs]

I have also put a free bet on Opinion with BetFred.  He is 13/2 with them (only Bookie) and only 6/1 with Hills where the thread free bets are.  We get best odds guaranteed anyway.  Given we have so many free bets with them, and he has the obvious soft ground preference, I think we should probably do him too.

Edit.  This is in the Ebor.

[Doobs]

Dustin Johnson update. Dire

Based on the fact we added the "happiness" factor to his chances, I now rate his long term future with Mr Gretzkeys daughter as poor, based on his underwhelming performance last couple of days

Jim Furyk update.  He is just a shot off the places, so all good.  He might become a thread hero at this rate.

The others aren't completely out of it, though we could do with a couple of birdies from Dufner to finish his round. Haas has made a good recovery after a bad first day, but we need a couple more five unders as he is win only.

[TightEnd]

Daily Report

Profiit on Month £652.65

Outstanding Bets £2861.06

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdFk3UmlTSXMzTjRBTVNfOWRndVFsZHc#gid=28

A sea of red and a sea of Adz yesterday made for a trying day. Seven bets, seven losers for a loss of £180. All six horse bets lost, albeit a number of second places gave another three free bets to use. Colchester failed to beat Carlisle also

A fabulously turgid day at the Test, with Ryan Harris only taking one of the four wickets to fall was decent news for our Swann bet. Bad weather today is also good news

In County Cricket Middlesex lost and its a battle for an each way return there now when the season ends at the end of September. Northamptonshire thwarted by weather and pitch and drew, though remain well placed to go up with 3rd plac Gloucestershire set to lose today.

Excitingly Simon Katich, on whom we have 20-1 to be top Div 2 run scorer scored another unbeaten century.

Currently:

Player    Mat    Inns    NO    Runs    HS    Ave    BF    SR    100    50    0    4     6
MM Ali    12*    19    4    1075    250    71.66    1972    54.51    3    7    1    142    7
(Worcestershire)
SM Katich    11*    15    2    1040    200    80.00    1596    65.16    4    5    1    132    7
(Lancashire)
MW Goodwin    12*    18    2    1024    194    64.00    2099    48.78    4    5    0    137    0

What a corking bet this is, and hopefully he scores more runs today. We can see that he has scored his runs in nearly 400 balls this season fewer than Moeen Ali and must have a great chance of ending the season on top. Weather, and specifically a bit of luck with it for who gets the most innings from here, could be crucial

In Golf of our six Barclays bets the best placed is Furyk T8 after 2 rounds, Watson is T24, Donald and Haas T30, Dufner T42 and the disappointing Dustin Johnson T79

In baseball the Rays began a series against the Yankees with a victory  and the Dodgers beat the Red Sox to even things up again at the top of the AL East division

A busy day today. The Ebor, Spa Qualifying, full programme of football, Challenge Cup final, Golf, more baseball tonight

A better day on and off thread would be nice.

[TightEnd]

Jwala bolts up at 40-1 in the Nunthorpe to thwart Shea Shea

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Simon Katich might scoop for us at 20-1

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Next time we'll leave it, thanks Colchester United

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Might be an idea to get Mourinho to do your ebay bidding, He swoops late for Will.i.an.



A Red Bull at the bottom fo Eau Rouge at the wonderful Spa

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A job well done, again

[kinboshi]

Is Hector about, and if so thoughts on the Challenge Cup final?

 Going to be a wet one, so that would suggest a lot of dropped ball (using the Rhino ball that is apparently like a bar of soap in the wet), and both sides have been guilty of quite a few mistakes in recent games.

Both sides have players returning to give them both close to their strongest squads on paper, although the fitness of some of the players can definitely be questioned - but isn't that always the case with rugby league players who seem to play through injuries and illness that'd keep footballers out for months. So on paper, recent form aside, Wigan should have the strongest side. It's at Wembley, and it's a big wide pitch, and again that should favour Wigan's style of play under Wane of getting the ball out wide as quickly as possible, bringing the centres and wingers into the game and also creating space for Sam Tomkins to exploit.

The question is how bad are Wigan at the moment? Is it just a case of the foot being taken off the gas once they couldn't finish below 4th in the league, or is it a case of the team genuinely going off the boil at the business end of the season again? I get the feeling it's actually a bit of both.

The bookies seem to think Wigan by about 8 points. It could be even closer than that imo. My heart says a Wigan win like back in 1985, but not sure what my head says.

Hector, it's over to you.

We are on Hull at 3.7 Betfair

Probably the value, but hopefully a losing bet

[The Camel]

Down to 16 in the Ebor.

Sure those bookmaker fellows will be lucky enough to find at least one more to come out.

#luckyfellows

BTW, love Tiger Cliff and Ted Veale each way if the remote chance of 16 horses running comes in.

[The Camel]

That didn't take long.

#luckyfellows