Tips for Tikay

[Tal]

Had the chance but not the legs.

[tikay]

No luck in the 18.55, so we have drawn a blank today, Free Bets apart.

Feel like Miss Variance has been groping us today, but she's a fickle sort, and tomorrow she might be better behaved.

[BigAdz]

Thanks, doobs. I would like you to show me the method on that, at your leisure of course.


Sandy/anyone, where is the tipster filter on the spreadsheet?

The individual ROI's per Tipster are deliberately kept LOCKED. Unfortunately, from time to time when I access them, I forget to "hide" the sheet afterwards, so eagle-eyed regulars go & have a butchers, & I don't blame them. The reason we "hide" them, & don't publish them is deliberate. We don't want to embarrass anyone, that's not the idea at all.

Anyone could, of course, work out individual ROI's simply by working through the monthly tabs. But at least we make it difficult.

You will note the Daily Reports have NEVER named the owners of losing bets, which is deliberate.* We are here to have fun, not embarrass anyone.  

* Exceptions apply - Chompy & Eso Walsall obv. They deserve nothing less.

PS - If anyone wants to know their Fred ROI, drop me a PM, & I'll let you know, but please keep it off thread.

Take heed. There's only one guy acting like a dick quoting negative figs when the spready is unlocked accidentally, and bringing down the Fred tone, and it's not Adz.

Not sure why Tikay hasn't replied to your question, but Tikay and Phil (bobby1) go back a long way, and he is a long standing bookie and punter. When he speaks, those that like to win money listen, much like Mr Channing. I too back Phil's tips 'blind', which is basically what tikay is doing. As u don't know Phil and he's not around this thread that often, u probs don't...but it's tikay's money so he is free to do so and I think it's probs a good idea to do so too. I also back Adam's tips blind as I like to lose and give him stick

Thank you Mr Kimber, you're too kind! x

I can take all the stick, I'm rather thick skinned as you know. The sad bit is I ask a genuine question, and it never gets answered. So when I ask again you're a "dick". It seems some people don't want to answer if it challenges their view, which is pretty poor IMO.

If I get rebuffed, I am happy to discuss it, but in the past it seems only Dubai and Tighty of the revered ones can either be bothered or take the time to answer.

Anyway, I presume my style of putting things across, comes over the wrong way. It shouldn't, I am only here to help, improve and join in the fun. Shame others with pack mentality can't see that.

Sorry about the race(Khajally), he got messed about a fair bit, and I reckon that is money lent, even though he was beat fair and square this time.

Onwards.

[horseplayer]

Horse will win races for Mick pretty sure of that

What was there to discuss? You did not get rebuffed as far as i could tell anyway

[Ant040689]

We're on for Colchester tonight, hopefully that will help.

[BigAdz]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

[horseplayer]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

I think Bobby is on auto bet status so that explains that, not sure what else anybody can say about that?

You cant really criticise Tikay or anybody for deeming it worthy of a bigger bet when you asked for a fiver eway. Im pretty sure if you had said 20 eway it would have been placed as well (not a big bet in proportion of the current roll at all)

[Tal]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

Did look to me that it was just a case of the bet size proposed by the recommender

I'd say the odds that Tikay didn't back it because it was from you are about the same as me getting a call from Daniel Levy this weekend, asking if I fancy playing in the hole behind Soldado now that Will.I.am isn't coming. Let's face it, I'm a more natural right wing back.

Let's move on.

Also, if it helps, I think you're a dick because you're a gooner. It is salvageable from there - I have occasionally become friends with such people - but it is uphill.

[tikay]

We're on for Colchester tonight, hopefully that will help.

Ooh, forgot that.

Be handy, that.

[McGlashan]

It sounds like we wouldn't mind opposing Liverpool tomorrow. A Villa win is 3-1 but is likely to come via one of the following options, both of which give us a nice price boost.

Benteke/Villa score/win combo @7.5 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/aston-villa-v-liverpool/score-win-double
Villa to win not to nil @7.0http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/aston-villa-v-liverpool/to-win-not-to-nil

Reasoning: Villa have conceded in 20+ straight EPL games and Benteke is on fire. I'll leave any selections and stakes up to the thread on this one.

[BigAdz]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

I think Bobby is on auto bet status so that explains that, not sure what else anybody can say about that?

You cant really criticise Tikay or anybody for deeming it worthy of a bigger bet when you asked for a fiver eway. Im pretty sure if you had said 20 eway it would have been placed as well (not a big bet in proportion of the current roll at all)

Sorry Horsey, you misunderstand. I was happy with a small bet on mine. It was not a value proposition, I readily accept, it was a gut instinct, change of stables suggestion, hence the min bet, but I did think it was worth pointing out, as you have only many occasions. This has zero to do with comparing the best sizes against each other.

I had no issue with anyone/Tikay backing Phil's horse. My point was, the price had gone, it had to win to make money, and it was based on hearsay. Tikay always says we aren't hear to back "tips", yet here we were backing a tip where the value had gone. My point was nobody, bar me, had even noticed/said anything, yet it was glaring.

My issue was wanting to know why this case was different, not unreasonable in a learning environment? Maybe I missed the point completely, I don't know because no one answered!

Then, I think it was Nico, pops up and says we should have even more on it, in reply to my question. This I truly could not fathom, and again my question as to why he thought that, went unanswered.

I think if I critique something its only reasonable to offer my thoughts if asked to answer......old fashioned good manners I suppose. Which you do, I hasten to add.

[tikay]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

You asked the question @ 12.14, I replied, satisfactorily as far as I could see, 6 minutes later @ 12.20.

You suggested a fiver each way, that is what I did.

Bobby asked for £20 EW, that is what I did.

I had no good reason to question either bet, or amount. If my judgement was wrong, so be it, I'll accept responsibility for any bet I take.  

That is it - no more, no less.

I did not get involved in your further complaints, there was no point, it was just going round & round.  

I'd really appreciate it if we could move on now please, OK?

Thanks.

[Spudy]

FWIW I see Coral have slashed Napoli for Serie A title, I am assuming Racing Post tipped them today, but i dont know as I never got the paper, either that or they have seen what i have on with them LOL.

Anyway, I see youwin whoever they are, have them at 8-1, may be worth taking before it all goes for those who missed the boat today with coral, and before the season starts.

Spudy

[horseplayer]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

I think Bobby is on auto bet status so that explains that, not sure what else anybody can say about that?

You cant really criticise Tikay or anybody for deeming it worthy of a bigger bet when you asked for a fiver eway. Im pretty sure if you had said 20 eway it would have been placed as well (not a big bet in proportion of the current roll at all)

Sorry Horsey, you misunderstand. I was happy with a small bet on mine. It was not a value proposition, I readily accept, it was a gut instinct, change of stables suggestion, hence the min bet, but I did think it was worth pointing out, as you have only many occasions. This has zero to do with comparing the best sizes against each other.

I had no issue with anyone/Tikay backing Phil's horse. My point was, the price had gone, it had to win to make money, and it was based on hearsay. Tikay always says we aren't hear to back "tips", yet here we were backing a tip where the value had gone. My point was nobody, bar me, had even noticed/said anything, yet it was glaring.

My issue was wanting to know why this case was different, not unreasonable in a learning environment? Maybe I missed the point completely, I don't know because no one answered!

Then, I think it was Nico, pops up and says we should have even more on it, in reply to my question. This I truly could not fathom, and again my question as to why he thought that, went unanswered.

I think if I critique something its only reasonable to offer my thoughts if asked to answer......old fashioned good manners I suppose. Which you do, I hasten to add.

I very rarely look at maidens ever so had no clue about the horse tbh so would not have offered an opinion either way.

I only put up on here what i think are horses that are to big, whether they are or not are up for others to decide. Said it plenty of times plenty better judges than me on here no problem in saying that

[BigAdz]

I was keen to understand why the newcomer bet was deemed as requiring a bigger bet, when no one knew anything first hand, and the true value in the big early price had gone, from what I could see.

The result is irrelevant, It was a genuine question, but kept getting ignored, and still has.

That was deemed as lowering the tone.

You asked the question @ 12.14, I replied, satisfactorily as far as I could see, 6 minutes later @ 12.20.

You suggested a fiver each way, that is what I did.

Bobby asked for £20 EW, that is what I did.

I had no good reason to question either bet, or amount. If my judgement was wrong, so be it, I'll accept responsibility for any bet I take.  

That is it - no more, no less.

I did not get involved in your further complaints, there was no point, it was just going round & round.  

I'd really appreciate it if we could move on now please, OK?

Thanks.

I trust/hope you were typing this while I typed mine, because starting to get fed up with you/others suggesting I was complaining.

For the last time it was not a your bets bigger than my bet thing, it was a what's the rationale/thought process thing for the newcomer bet.

Thanks....