Tips for Tikay

[horseplayer]

Not doubting that

To me it reminds me exactly of the start of the goals galore promo

A lot of people said then that there could not be value on such a promo ( not on here), a lot of shrewder judges than me realised there was and pulled there pants down so much so the bet is now about as bad "value" as any around.

Im sure betfred will get a lot of people blindly backing the lot to score for a fun fiver, but even allowing for a bookies margin if the players are the same or similar to the ones in this column (against similar opponents) that 10/1 is at least 3pts to big

For me anyway

[McGlashan]

infact there are probably 3 or 4 combos on that list which look good bets

i would be surprised if baldy kept the 10-1 after a few weeks much like the goals galore the odds look more than generous at the onset

what happens if your player doesn't start? eg there's talk of Morata starting ahead of Benzema tonight

I did think this, does it default to bad BetFred prices?  Also 7/2 looks way out to me.  If all 3 are evens to score anytime we get 10/1 about a 7/1 chance which is good.  If the evens has a 10% margin, then 10/1 is about right.  

It is obviously worth watching, but I think we need to be a bit careful.

the 3 are not evens anytime though

If they continue to offer players in the games like today at 10/1 for 3 and even the 25/1 for 4 looks good to me then it is an automatic bet

Like reds says think it should be removed from fred just to be safe

non runners rule need checking

We can't remove it John, it has been quoted 8 or 10 times, & removing it won't necessarily delete it from search.

Seriously, there may be great value here, but BetFred do it for a reason, for sure, maybe an acquisition tool.

Fill your boots whilst the prices last as the options will slowly get worse. Baldy is in it for the long term and must be killing it off of the goals galore coupon.

[horseplayer]

Tony Bloom just had a fto winner at hq at 22-1

Presumably not backed

[tikay]

JENNINGS BET offer Money Back if second (as a Free Bet) in the Arc tomorrow, Max Refund £25.

I imagine there will be plenty more Offers, too.

[Doobs]

infact there are probably 3 or 4 combos on that list which look good bets

i would be surprised if baldy kept the 10-1 after a few weeks much like the goals galore the odds look more than generous at the onset

what happens if your player doesn't start? eg there's talk of Morata starting ahead of Benzema tonight

I did think this, does it default to bad BetFred prices?  Also 7/2 looks way out to me.  If all 3 are evens to score anytime we get 10/1 about a 7/1 chance which is good.  If the evens has a 10% margin, then 10/1 is about right.  

It is obviously worth watching, but I think we need to be a bit careful.

the 3 are not evens anytime though

If they continue to offer players in the games like today at 10/1 for 3 and even the 25/1 for 4 looks good to me then it is an automatic bet

Like reds says think it should be removed from fred just to be safe

non runners rule need checking

Rooney was in there and is 6/4.  It was suggested we could perm a few.  Just saying we should be careful and pick off the odds on chances.  I don't think players picking three that are evens are going to be short enough.

[luther101]

Correction, Derby TWO up.

Lutherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, explain yourself.

Don't panic, Leeds just got one back.

[doubleup]

hmm bizarre betting with anaconda in to 16s with books but utterly rancid drift on exchanges

[Doobs]

Derby v Leeds

Steve McClaren will be without injured midfielders Paul Coutts, James Bailey (both knee) and Jeff Hendrick (ankle) goalkeeper Adam Legzdins  for his first game in charge of Derby (BBC Sport).

Leeds 16/5, or better, for away win.

OK, you got me loof. We've had a tenner.

BET PLACED

With Betfair?

No, BetVictor @ 33/10. Betty was very similar, 4.3 I think, minus commish.

Agreed, I just checked the 16/5 vs the 4.4 on Betfair at the time.  Anyway must get on.  Free bet on Miss France??

We have a Free Bet? Never saw that, what was it for?

Free bet for 2nd on Caspar?

This might have been a cock up by me.  I looked at the channel 4 racing schedule this morning and it was listed on the schedule.  I wasn't watching Channel 4 at the time, but I don't think it was on.  Can anyone confirm?

[horseplayer]

Derby v Leeds

Steve McClaren will be without injured midfielders Paul Coutts, James Bailey (both knee) and Jeff Hendrick (ankle) goalkeeper Adam Legzdins  for his first game in charge of Derby (BBC Sport).

Leeds 16/5, or better, for away win.

OK, you got me loof. We've had a tenner.

BET PLACED

With Betfair?

No, BetVictor @ 33/10. Betty was very similar, 4.3 I think, minus commish.

Agreed, I just checked the 16/5 vs the 4.4 on Betfair at the time.  Anyway must get on.  Free bet on Miss France??

We have a Free Bet? Never saw that, what was it for?

Free bet for 2nd on Caspar?

This might have been a cock up by me.  I looked at the channel 4 racing schedule this morning and it was listed on the schedule.  I wasn't watching Channel 4 at the time, but I don't think it was on.  Can anyone confirm?

didnt see it but pretty sure channel 4 usually on show the 2yr old trophy from ractar

[Jamier-Host]

My 4/1 was going on the shortest treble I could find, but obv would be a margin built into that.

I did the same treble I suggested as well as a perm that added a couple more that we're generally 4/5 or less. Clearly the closer you get to evens or odds against the worse value it is.

One to monitor anyway.

[doubleup]

not listed as Ch4 on racing post

[tikay]

not listed as Ch4 on racing post

Well that fits, as they usually credit my Free Bets very quickly, & it is still not showing.

[tikay]

My 4/1 was going on the shortest treble I could find, but obv would be a margin built into that.

I did the same treble I suggested as well as a perm that added a couple more that we're generally 4/5 or less. Clearly the closer you get to evens or odds against the worse value it is.

One to monitor anyway.

Agree 100%, definitely worth deeper investigation, & a "formula" to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Anyway, time for a nap......

[tikay]

In the Silly Cricket, good start by Trinidad & Tobago, 47/1 after 6 overs.

Get it done, hector!


http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2013/engine/current/match/654383.html

[redarmi]

infact there are probably 3 or 4 combos on that list which look good bets

i would be surprised if baldy kept the 10-1 after a few weeks much like the goals galore the odds look more than generous at the onset

what happens if your player doesn't start? eg there's talk of Morata starting ahead of Benzema tonight

I did think this, does it default to bad BetFred prices?  Also 7/2 looks way out to me.  If all 3 are evens to score anytime we get 10/1 about a 7/1 chance which is good.  If the evens has a 10% margin, then 10/1 is about right.  

It is obviously worth watching, but I think we need to be a bit careful.

the 3 are not evens anytime though

If they continue to offer players in the games like today at 10/1 for 3 and even the 25/1 for 4 looks good to me then it is an automatic bet

Like reds says think it should be removed from fred just to be safe

non runners rule need checking

Rooney was in there and is 6/4.  It was suggested we could perm a few.  Just saying we should be careful and pick off the odds on chances.  I don't think players picking three that are evens are going to be short enough.

Oh you are definitely going to have to be selective.  My best guess would be that you will be lucky to get 3-4 in a week.  You need a high total and a decent favourite imo with a very solid goalscorer.  It is interesting they haven't included Messi and Ronaldo so they have half a clue but just not a full one ;-)