Tips for Tikay

[horseplayer]

This is the second article in 2 months on this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2604701/Time-splash-bit-cash-Manuel-Pellegrini-picks-wad-City-lose-Liverpool.html

Man takes money from a cash machine shocker.

[bobby1]

Just wanted to make it clear that I don't have a referral code for Asianbabes.com nor do I have an affiliate deal.

Many thanks.

[bobby1]

It's because golf is a gentlemans game and has standards......football..not so much. What's not to understand?

Sure but the thing I don't get is how football has fallen so low and it is just accepted as being overrun with bad behaviour and bad sportsmanship but golf is still so stuffy that hitting the floor with a club is seen as so bad. I guess n the grand scheme of sporting misdemeanors it just seems a bit of a do about nothing to me.

It's not just "hitting the floor" with a club though is it?

It's smashing it into the ground after a bad shot, Paula Creamer has a nasty habit of doing the same thing in a bit of a hissy-fit and I can't abide her either for exactly that reason.

I see what you mean Ralph and it is unnecessary but I was surprised in general how much was made of it in the golfing coverage and wash up after the event.

Personally I thought it odd that instead of celebrating what the guy almost achieved and how we  have another period of young attacking golfers coming through they instead talked a lot about his minor faults and the guy is 20 and just getting used to all the attention. In the grand sporting scene it just looks weird that something that can be halted in a second by him understanding how hitting the floor with his club might be viewed and not doing it in future is given more negative coverage than other sports where all 22 on the pitch are happily trying to cheat their way thru 90 minutes in a lot of games.

[Simon Galloway]

"Common boys, we've got em here. 77-6, just need to keep the pressure up and we'll be off for an early tea."

I've certainly seen similar...

"c'mon fellas, one more back in the hutch and we will be well into the tail."

[exstream]

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/14:40/winner

8/11
5/2
13/2
22/1

1/5 top 3

13/2 horse a good bet it seems

[arbboy]

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/14:40/winner

8/11
5/2
13/2
22/1

1/5 top 3

13/2 horse a good bet it seems

The best ew bet is the jolly at 8/11.  Win part of the bet is bang on the bf price so we are giving nothing away and we are getting 1/7 the place when the place is 1/11 on bf.  As long as all 8 run the fav should be backed ew.

[exstream]

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/14:40/winner

8/11
5/2
13/2
22/1

1/5 top 3

13/2 horse a good bet it seems

The best ew bet is the jolly at 8/11.  Win part of the bet is bang on the bf price so we are giving nothing away and we are getting 1/7 the place when the place is 1/11 on bf.  As long as all 8 run the fav should be backed ew.

Did not expect that to be the case at all, couldn't have imagined backing 8/11 fave each way lol.
The 13/2 horse did finish 3rd.
Fave did win.

Thanks for response.

[arbboy]

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/14:40/winner

8/11
5/2
13/2
22/1

1/5 top 3

13/2 horse a good bet it seems

The best ew bet is the jolly at 8/11.  Win part of the bet is bang on the bf price so we are giving nothing away and we are getting 1/7 the place when the place is 1/11 on bf.  As long as all 8 run the fav should be backed ew.

Did not expect that to be the case at all, couldn't have imagined backing 8/11 fave each way lol.
The 13/2 horse did finish 3rd.
Fave did win.

Thanks for response.

That's because most people back things ew for the wrong reasons.  They see an ew bet on an outsider to get their money back if it placed so they only ever back things ew which are 5/1 or bigger as opposed to seeing the ew bet as 2 separate bets.  I would say several of my best ever ew bets have been on odds on shots or very short priced favs similar to the top senior market on the Masters last weekend.  Plus it is 100 times easier getting a chunk on an odds on fav ew rather than the obvious 'bad ew' 2nd fav which firms restrict heavily but they very rarely restrict the jolly ew even though the positive EV from the place bet on the jolly can quite often be as big.

Probably the best ew bet i ever had during my arbing days for £10k ew on a 1/2 shot on the aw which i laid at 1.49 on the win market (breaking even after commission) and laid the 1/10 place part of the ew bet at 1/33 on bf.  Therefore having a freeroll for £700 on the horse being placed (97% likely) with no possible way of losing.

I think the 2nd fav was 7/2 and the same firm max bet offered was £25 ew but they would lay me £10k ew on the fav.

[TightEnd]

World Snooker

The draw has put the top two in the market in the same half, Ronnie and Ding

Ronnie we know about, Ding has won five ranking events this year and was a lot of people's idea of the alternative winner should Ronnie not win

the market offers 1/2 e/w top 2.

so, over the last 24 hours I have tried to research "value" in the bottom half, to back each way to win the half....as the favourite in the half is Robertson at 9/1 outright or 9/2 to win

 the bottom half draw reads as follows, assuming they reach the second round (of course not all will)
                                        
Mark Selby (3) v Ali Carter (14)    
John Higgins (11) v Stuart Bingham (6)    
Judd Trump (7) v  Stephen Maguire (10)    
Mark Allen (15) v    Neil Robertson (2)

outright prices in this half

Robertson 9/1
Selby 11/1
Trump 11/1
Higgins 20/1
Allen 25/1
Maguire 33/1
Bingham 40/1
Carter 50/1

http://www.oddschecker.com/snooker/world-championship/winner

My interest is especially in the third quarter because Selby is opposable at the Crucible, usually.

Three seperate people have told me unprompted that Higgins is set to belie his seeding, and is playing better than he has been for 18 months

Carter came back to form in a run to the semi final in China this month, has twice finished runner up in the Worlds, lastly as recently as 2012 and has a teak tough matchplay temperament especially over the longer games. His health problems are under control, and he's a fancy price 

If Robertson performs as he can, world number one, two ranking events this year including the UK, finalist in China earlier in the month then 9/1

So

Recommendations - all for value given the shape of the draw

Neil Robertson £20 e/w 9/1 (1/2 odds 1,2) BetVictor or Coral

John Higgins £10 e/w 18/1  (1/2 odds 1,2) BetVictor 

Ali Carter £10 e/w 50/1 (1/2 odds 1,2) Coral

If any get deep runs we can trade around the two larger priced positions in the second week. the aim is that one wins the third quarter, and we go from there   
      
   

[arbboy]

Is it not just a case of Ronnie is too short here and he is a lay?  Last year's finalist Hawkins and former winner Murphy in Ronnie's half it's hardly a 2 horse race with Ding.  I just couldn't ever back Ronnie at 6/4 even if he turns up and plays like he did last year.  He is obviously the most likely winner but what price do we really think he is to win this?

[Nico29]

The 9/1 with Patrick on Silva in the City game looks fair whats bets that at 1/5th odds or beteveryday at 15/2 1/3 odds?

Best imo is to do the win only @9/1 and also take the 23/10 anytime with the same firm.

Means you lose some of the 5/2 place you'd get with .365, but you gain back on the win.

The good thing here is you can choose how much to put on the win and the place separately.

I actually think it's a fantastic bet.

Will be adding it to my portfolio on the game along with chunky investments on both Aguerro&Dzeko ew.

[Marky147]

I can do Higgins for Fred, with Sid.

[TightEnd]

The 9/1 with Patrick on Silva in the City game looks fair whats bets that at 1/5th odds or beteveryday at 15/2 1/3 odds?

Best imo is to do the win only @9/1 and also take the 23/10 anytime with the same firm.

Means you lose some of the 5/2 place you'd get with .365, but you gain back on the win.

The good thing here is you can choose how much to put on the win and the place separately.

I actually think it's a fantastic bet.

Will be adding it to my portfolio on the game along with chunky investments on both Aguerro&Dzeko ew.

is any of this for the thread?

if so what, where and how....?

[JaffaCake]

Bobby1 is a trusted snooker voice, if he's not too bust perusing Asian 'Handicaps' sites ofc.

From my untrained eye, Ronnie looks ridic short as argueboy says, so many things can go wrong and would never wanna be backing 6/4.

Have had a lil dabble ew on Higgins while the debate starts, looks a good price for that half, tho I know little of his recent form

[Nico29]

The 9/1 with Patrick on Silva in the City game looks fair whats bets that at 1/5th odds or beteveryday at 15/2 1/3 odds?

Best imo is to do the win only @9/1 and also take the 23/10 anytime with the same firm.

Means you lose some of the 5/2 place you'd get with .365, but you gain back on the win.

The good thing here is you can choose how much to put on the win and the place separately.

I actually think it's a fantastic bet.

Will be adding it to my portfolio on the game along with chunky investments on both Aguerro&Dzeko ew.

is any of this for the thread?

if so what, where and how....?

Don't think fred can get on with either .365 nor patrick?

Hence I didn't bother reccing.

The best bet if it could get on would imo be Aguerro ew with .365@13/5 which is best priced.

Getting 1.87 on a 1.62 place shot with the win part fairly neutral.

Might wait for confirmation that he is starting b4 going in too chunky though.

The fact that this is such a great ew match is illustrated by pp going an awful 1/5 odds the place.

Happily surprised at Silva's 9/1 though.