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[tikay]

You do love your stats, Sandy! Thanks.

Is it settled by the "official" added time, as noted on that silly little board the 4th Official holds up (so 1970's, that), or the ACTUAL added time?

A weird aside here, geeks only apply.

"The Game" (in "The Times" every Monday) has been following the ridiculous way added time is worked out & implemented for a while now, & have spotted that if one team is leading by several goals, there is a tendancy for referees to truncate the added time.   

At the Southampton Coventry match, the 2nd half included three injury delays (assessed to be 4.5 minutes), two goals, & three substitutions. Added time? One minute & 10 seconds. Score at the time? 4-0.

So if City or Utd are a hatful ahead at 90 minutes, looks like short is the way to go.  Whereas if Utd are a goal down.........

It's plainly ridiculous that the time is decided upon a whim.

Love all this stuff, keep it coming.

A good question which seems to have alluded the rules on both sites. I would be of the opinion that it's actual time though since they offer 0 minutes and the board doesn't generally go up until 90 mins. This would mean that  the board would have to go up showing 0 at the same time as the whistle blows whilst common sense tells you he ain't gonna lift the board when the whistle goes.

Sandy

Yoiu could not possibly place the bet unless that was clarified though.

[The Camel]

Not a tip per se and not interesting to  most punters either.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/manchester-city-v-manchester-united/minutes-of-stipulated-added-time-in-2nd-half

2nd half injury time minutes. Market is betting to just over 96%. To guarantee a minimum net return of £3.65 per £96.29 invested bet as follows 

0 mins injury time    40/1       bet £2.44      returns   £100.04   BWIN

1 min injury time     25/1       bet £3.85      returns   £100.10   BWIN

2 mins injury time   6/1         bet £14.29     returns   £100.03   LADS

3 mins injury time   9/4         bet £30.77    returns   £100.00   LADS

4 mins injury time   5/2         bet £28.57    returns   £100       BWIN

5 mins injury time   8/1         bet £11.11    returns   £99.99     BWIN

6+ mins injury time 18/1       bet £5.26      returns   £99.94     BWIN


Minimum return £99.94 cost of bets £96.29

Sandy

0 or 1 minutes are ridiculous underpriced.

0 should be 1000/1+. I have only seen this once for the first half and never for the second half. There would have to be zero subistutions for this to be the result. That has never happened in a Premiership match.
1 should be 200/1+.  First half is regualrly 1 minute. I can't remember a second half with 1 minute although it must have happened.

[tikay]

Backing the draws would have been good, but at the time draw prices were not available..the major bookmakers cognisant no doubt of thin markets for country cricket and the weather forecast weren't offering draw odds. None were up on OddsChecker, no depth on Betfair etc etc

We should be in business for cricket quirkiness this week

Yes, I recall you mentioned that.

Look forward to this week's batch.

[bobby1]

I have been betting the second half highest scoring half in man city's home games this season. It's been brill and if you ever need a better example of the laziness of some firms to repricing things then the price was 11/10 in the first game of the season and has been that price every game even tho the stats for it are great.

They just come off a generic chart that takes nothing into account.

[henrik777]

Day was lucky against Ding who was 9-6 up and had good chances but bottled it. I'd be looking at highest break, most centuries, most points to take advantage of Hawkins current low scoring prowess.

Sandy

[henrik777]

I have been betting the second half highest scoring half in man city's home games this season. It's been brill and if you ever need a better example of the laziness of some firms to repricing things then the price was 11/10 in the first game of the season and has been that price every game even tho the stats for it are great.

They just come off a generic chart that takes nothing into account.

Guess you're not to happy with Dave Tindall letting the cat out of the bag now then

Sandy

[bobby1]

I'm on the iPad so cannot quote properly Tony but re your added time observation when teams are winning. It is the done thing in German football that almost very game that has a decent lead in it plays just a fraction over the 90 mins. It's a factor when betting totals in running there as the inj time is just ignored.

[The Camel]

Day was lucky against Ding who was 9-6 up and had good chances but bottled it. I'd be looking at highest break, most centuries, most points to take advantage of Hawkins current low scoring prowess.

Sandy

It is possible to have a "prowess" in low scoring?

[The Camel]

prow·ess/ˈprou-əs/
Noun:   

1    Skill or expertise in an activity or field.
2    Bravery in battle.


Is the inabilty to make high breaks a "skill or expertise"?

[henrik777]

prow·ess/ˈprou-əs/
Noun:   

1    Skill or expertise in an activity or field.
2    Bravery in battle.


Is the inabilty to make high breaks a "skill or expertise"?

Day was lucky against Ding who was 9-6 up and had good chances but bottled it. I'd be looking at highest break, most centuries, most points to take advantage of Hawkins current low scoring Bravery in battle.

Sandy

[tikay]

Day was lucky against Ding who was 9-6 up and had good chances but bottled it. I'd be looking at highest break, most centuries, most points to take advantage of Hawkins current low scoring prowess.

Sandy

Come back to us with your observations, please.

[tikay]

prow·ess/ˈprou-əs/
Noun:   

1    Skill or expertise in an activity or field.
2    Bravery in battle.


Is the inabilty to make high breaks a "skill or expertise"?

It's rather like my prowess @ poker, Keith. Maybe it is prowesslessness.

[bobby1]

I was at the Crucible at the weekend and saw a session of the Day v yupang game and the standard was good even allowing for what looked like a bad black ball pocket after the table re lay. Day v Hawkins would be a super tight game Imo, Day small fav unless Hawkins runs off a load of frames to beat Stevens easily today

[bobby1]

I have been betting the second half highest scoring half in man city's home games this season. It's been brill and if you ever need a better example of the laziness of some firms to repricing things then the price was 11/10 in the first game of the season and has been that price every game even tho the stats for it are great.

They just come off a generic chart that takes nothing into account.

Guess you're not to happy with Dave Tindall letting the cat out of the bag now then

Sandy

Found the quote now so given it a go.

Tindall has put it up today then I guess. It has shortened with most firms over the season, been about 10/11 with most firms. I can't see if the make up of this game changes anything to the detriment of the bet. There was one interesting stat in the RP today, Ref Andre Marriners games tend to be high scoring games,15 of his 19 Prem matches this season have finished over 2 1/2. the reason given is he is just about the best ref for letting games flow instead of stop start and every scenario in the game late on will lead to a team needing to score.

Looks good to me again Sandy.

[bobby1]

On further reflection I have deduced that the quote function did not work :-)