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[TightEnd]

I adore the slight doubt in Motson's voice as to whether they had been sent off or not, for the first fisticuffs.

LOL, a different era. Proper hard men

[david3103]

Dave Webb, David Harvey, Bonetti, Mick Jones, John Hollins, Ron Harris, Terry Cooper and Paul Madeley are all pictured in the Old Trafford 70 final replay


The match was brutal. i was reading a match report of it today and the journalist wrote

"The match was especially violent" and this is by 1970 standards


One modern ref was asked to look at it and reckoned by modern rules the game would ahve finished 6 a side!!

You missed one Rich..... Norman " bite your legs" Hunter , no 6 with his back to goal in the 1st pic.

Proper chap ,  always remember the scrap he had with Franny Lee. Think it was at the baseball ground.

I remember him for his not demolishing the Polish winger at Wembley in 1973


3.00 ish

[Acidmouse]

People forget Chelsea where savage in those games vs Leeds, they were brutal. Leeds of course had a dirty reputation but blimey watching the games again they took out a number of Leeds players that could end your playing career.

Interesting the fact that the replay was the 2nd most watched sporting event ever. 2nd behind the '66 World Cup final.

[TL900]

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/los-angeles-clippers-at-detroit-pistons/point-spread

Clippers travel to Detroit in amazing form winning their last 9 games. CP3 is working this finely tuned outfit to a tee and brushing team after team aside. On average they score 8.4points more than they concede.

Detroit have lost their last 4 although they have a 5-7 home record this year, Clippers have too much in the locker for them.

Thoughts on this game Jaffa/anyone?

I see clippers being 9-10 favourites here on the road. We can get evens @ -6.5 with Coral which is an extra little bit of value. Im in for 3 units.

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-at-cleveland-cavaliers/point-spread

For tomorrow:

Cavaliers have been playing pretty well recently since Kyries return, the kid is absolutely on fire and undefendable at the minute. I think short term form has effected this line because I think its way off. Cavs have lost their last 3 but have been impressive in doing so (almost pulled off a shock win last time out in NYK) and Raptors have won their last 2 however Calderon had to have a Triple Double last game just to barely beat the Rockets at home who are awful on the road. Also, Raptors are alot better at home than away where they have a 1-14 record so far this season.

They also have a very thin squad at the minute with two of their best players (Bargnani and Fields) out for the game. This means their starting line up is worse but more importantly their bench is very weak.

I think Cavs are alot better than the Raptors and they say home court is worth 3 points so they are basically saying Cavs are 1 point better than the Raptors which is wrong imo. (also its probably worth more vs someone with such a bad road record like the Raptors)

Im in for the max 5 units on Cavaliers -4 with Bwin. 100% a Fred bet imo

GL

Morning Tom.

The first of those 2 bets came in.

We were unable to place the 2nd bet (Raptors & Cavaliers)  - which is TONIGHT - asBWwin were offline all day yesterday.

BWIn are now back up, BUT they have moved their line to -4.5, which is identical to every other site.

So the line is now effectively 1 point worse, & your recommendation was a 5 Unit Max (£55) at -4.

Should we now proceed at the worse line (-4.5), or at all, or for a lesser stake?

Yea ima drop it down to 4 units. We still need the same amount of points to win we just dont have that push equity

Nice of the clippers to show up in the 4th and put a win on the board.

That enhanced accumulator was pretty nifty. I was in for quite a bit was a decent little bet. All teams sailed home, even though suns (the last game when all the others had won were losing by 19 in the 2nd quarter

[tikay]

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/los-angeles-clippers-at-detroit-pistons/point-spread

Clippers travel to Detroit in amazing form winning their last 9 games. CP3 is working this finely tuned outfit to a tee and brushing team after team aside. On average they score 8.4points more than they concede.

Detroit have lost their last 4 although they have a 5-7 home record this year, Clippers have too much in the locker for them.

Thoughts on this game Jaffa/anyone?

I see clippers being 9-10 favourites here on the road. We can get evens @ -6.5 with Coral which is an extra little bit of value. Im in for 3 units.

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-at-cleveland-cavaliers/point-spread

For tomorrow:

Cavaliers have been playing pretty well recently since Kyries return, the kid is absolutely on fire and undefendable at the minute. I think short term form has effected this line because I think its way off. Cavs have lost their last 3 but have been impressive in doing so (almost pulled off a shock win last time out in NYK) and Raptors have won their last 2 however Calderon had to have a Triple Double last game just to barely beat the Rockets at home who are awful on the road. Also, Raptors are alot better at home than away where they have a 1-14 record so far this season.

They also have a very thin squad at the minute with two of their best players (Bargnani and Fields) out for the game. This means their starting line up is worse but more importantly their bench is very weak.

I think Cavs are alot better than the Raptors and they say home court is worth 3 points so they are basically saying Cavs are 1 point better than the Raptors which is wrong imo. (also its probably worth more vs someone with such a bad road record like the Raptors)

Im in for the max 5 units on Cavaliers -4 with Bwin. 100% a Fred bet imo

GL

Morning Tom.

The first of those 2 bets came in.

We were unable to place the 2nd bet (Raptors & Cavaliers)  - which is TONIGHT - asBWwin were offline all day yesterday.

BWIn are now back up, BUT they have moved their line to -4.5, which is identical to every other site.

So the line is now effectively 1 point worse, & your recommendation was a 5 Unit Max (£55) at -4.

Should we now proceed at the worse line (-4.5), or at all, or for a lesser stake?

Yea ima drop it down to 4 units. We still need the same amount of points to win we just dont have that push equity

Nice of the clippers to show up in the 4th and put a win on the board.

That enhanced accumulator was pretty nifty. I was in for quite a bit was a decent little bet. All teams sailed home, even though suns (the last game when all the others had won were losing by 19 in the 2nd quarter

"push equity".....let us hope we are not forced to subscribe to the new buzz-phrase on blonde, "equity pot lost"......amazing how quickly it has become popular here, & once a phrase gets on blonde, everyone repeats it. Fashion ftw.

Very well done on that enhanced Acca last night. I was safely tucked up in bed before it went up, but I'm sure a few of our lads got on.

The reduced bet on the Cavs makes perfect sense, so we are on, for 4 x TL Units.

Cavs (-4.5) over the Raptors, tonight, £44 @ 10/11, Blue Square.

ON


Cleveland Cavaliers -4.5 @ 10/11  
Market
 Handicap Winner
 
Event
 NBA
Toronto Raptors at Cleveland Cavaliers
2012-12-19 00:00:00
 
Bet Type
 
Bet Type
 Win Single
 
Unit Stake
 £44.00
 
Number of Units
 x1
 
Total Stake
 £44.00
 
Time and Date Placed
 2012-12-18 12:20:36
 
Receipt Number
 O/0891659/0000170
 





 

[tikay]

Mr T. A bit of deja vu here but have you looked at the corners market for the Reading Arsenal game. I can't help thinking that 2-1 for Reading to have most corners is worth consideration. They are at home, likely to go behind so have to attack more, and had more corners than Man Utd and Spurs when they played them at home recently.

I had a very long look at the Corner Markets in this yesterday hector.

I have had 5 sub-market bets on the game, though only two are on the Corner Markets. ("Over 11" @ Evens, & "2nd half most corners" @ 10/11).

Both Teams have a tendancy to have high corner counts from time to time, but on balance, no, I'm not sure I like "Reading most corners". 

Reading at home average 6.5 for, 5.5 against.

Arsenal away average 7 for, 5.5 against. 

In total, Reading Home games average 12.5 per game, with Reading having a 1.5 corner per game advantage.

Arsenal Away games average 12.5 corners per game, with Arsenal enjoying a 1.5 corner advantage.

I therefore concluded "inconclusive" on Corner Superiority.

If you are on though, good luck.

Just returning to this for a mo.......

I'm afraid the Corner Bets all went tiddly-poo. The structure of the game was very odd, with 8 corners first half, & only 2 in the 2nd, & the last 20 minutes were corner-less. Arsenal won the Corner Superiority handsomely, too, 7-3.

The game panned out oddly, with Arsenal opening up Reading's defence at will in the first half, & the 2nd half was end to end, but the Corners were all over the shop, & despite such an attacking game, even the Goal Kick count was well below expectation.

So, between us, we made a bit of a cods of it all.

Enjoyable game to watch, though, with a noticeable lack of theatrical dives or niggly fouls. Mr Wilshere is really starting to impose himself now, too. Combative little bugger, too, though I fear for his long term physical well-being, as his ankles get tapped so often. 

[bobby1]

Morning Mr T. I was so close to suggesting you repeat those lovely bets for Turriff v a proper team last night. Where was bobby ?

I am either dim and missing more nuances, perfectly possible as I have only had 1 coffee, but allez Cornwall ? Plymouth is in Devon, admittedly on the border but definitely Devon.

yes fml. 6-0 in the replay. I left it alone too.

[tikay]

Dave Webb, David Harvey, Bonetti, Mick Jones, John Hollins, Ron Harris, Terry Cooper and Paul Madeley are all pictured in the Old Trafford 70 final replay


The match was brutal. i was reading a match report of it today and the journalist wrote

"The match was especially violent" and this is by 1970 standards


One modern ref was asked to look at it and reckoned by modern rules the game would ahve finished 6 a side!!

You missed one Rich..... Norman " bite your legs" Hunter , no 6 with his back to goal in the 1st pic.

Proper chap ,  always remember the scrap he had with Franny Lee. Think it was at the baseball ground.

Ooh, Franny Lee, loved him to bits!

I met him several times around 20 or 25 years ago. At the time John Kirkland was Chairman of Derby County, & Franny was Chairman of Man City (which did not go well), & from time to time Fran would come to John's office, & John would ring me up, doubtless eager to impress me with his visitor calibre, & we'd have a coffee & a natter, & listen to tales from the great man.

He owned a very successful company that made or sold Toilet Rolls, and after he finished with football, I seemk to recall he took up training racehorses, with modest success.

He is my favourite penalty taker ever ever ever. Straight down the middle, most of them, million mph, & he would aim at the goalies head, & if the keeper happened to fail to get out of the way, he'd never stop it, it would knock his block off.

 

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[tikay]

I really must stop this reminiscing lark, but if nothing else, Tighty will love this Stadium photo. Bet he can't name more than 6 of the people in the Team Photo though.

The top photo is Derby v Wolves at Baseball Ground. Obv.

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[Tal]

He is my favourite penalty taker ever ever ever. Straight down the middle, most of them, million mph, & he would aim at the goalies head, & if the keeper happened to fail to get out of the way, he'd never stop it, it would knock his block off.

This was also a Julian Dicks technique. I remember a game where Ian Walker went left, Dicks scored and the commentator said how lucky Walker was to have dived!

[tikay]

He is my favourite penalty taker ever ever ever. Straight down the middle, most of them, million mph, & he would aim at the goalies head, & if the keeper happened to fail to get out of the way, he'd never stop it, it would knock his block off.

This was also a Julian Dicks technique. I remember a game where Ian Walker went left, Dicks scored and the commentator said how lucky Walker was to have dived!

Jeez, there's another memory-jerker, Julian Dicks. Another well hard sort.

Players like Hunter & Dicks would not survive today, they'd be sent off every game.

[TightEnd]

the Derby county one

Archie Gemmill
Alan Hinton
Roy McFarland
Kevin Hector
Colin Boulton
John McGovern
Clough
Taylor
Colin Todd
Ron Webster
Alan Durban

Can't see David Nish in it, so maybe its 73-74?


that would be 72-73 I believe

[TightEnd]

Quiz question back for tikay

A station that served the Baseball ground, "Ramsline Halt" or the Baseball ground halt (which was the end of a piece of track that ran to an area of ground behind the home end) holds a record for a British station

What record is that?

[bookiebasher]

Can't get 2, 3, 6, 8.

Alan Hinton I believe was famous for his white boots.

[TightEnd]

Alan Hinton now lives in Seattle and is the colour commentator for the Seattle Sounders Football teram alongside Arlo White ex BBC Radio

I'll shut up now.