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« Reply #52650 on: September 06, 2013, 08:56:38 PM »

What price were Armenia to beat the Czechs?
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« Reply #52651 on: September 06, 2013, 08:59:47 PM »

What price were Armenia to beat the Czechs?

It's after timing time, 10-1 Smiley
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« Reply #52652 on: September 06, 2013, 09:06:22 PM »

Garswood is the Pricewise selection at Haydock tomorrow.

Think it could start at an ell oh ell price like 5/2 or 11/4.

Took that from Twitter, not confirmed yet - but market move at exactly 8pm suggests it's true.

Pricewise from tonight :

15:15 Haydock - Suraj @ 20/1

15:50 Haydock - Garswood @ 6/1

17:45 Leopard  - Caponata @ 9/1

13:55 Ascot - Field of Dream @ 16/1
                    Pythagorean @ 9/1

14:05 Haydock - Jedward @ 12/1

14:55 Kempton - Storm King @ 16/1
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« Reply #52653 on: September 06, 2013, 09:06:57 PM »

Dunne has cost us again there. I'm f**king irate.
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« Reply #52654 on: September 06, 2013, 09:11:26 PM »

Does anyone know what the situation is if you have FGS e/w bet who comes on after the first goal ?
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« Reply #52655 on: September 06, 2013, 09:57:34 PM »

Does anyone know what the situation is if you have FGS e/w bet who comes on after the first goal ?

Think the whole bet is void.  It definitely is with Paddy power.  Not totally sure with 365 which are only other firm offering ew betting now.
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« Reply #52656 on: September 06, 2013, 10:03:56 PM »

Does anyone know what the situation is if you have FGS e/w bet who comes on after the first goal ?

Think the whole bet is void.  It definitely is with Paddy power.  Not totally sure with 365 which are only other firm offering ew betting now.

yep, sure this is right
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« Reply #52657 on: September 06, 2013, 10:10:23 PM »

Need some advice, I've got 20 @ 3.75 and 100@ 2.75 on Nedal for the open, never really laid anything on betfair but this seems like a prime opportunity? Or should I just trust he will walk it like he should?
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« Reply #52658 on: September 06, 2013, 10:37:54 PM »

Need some advice, I've got 20 @ 3.75 and 100@ 2.75 on Nedal for the open, never really laid anything on betfair but this seems like a prime opportunity? Or should I just trust he will walk it like he should?

I'm keeping the faith, but I've only got 30 quid @ 100/30

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« Reply #52659 on: September 06, 2013, 11:05:55 PM »

2/1 Ukraine looks decent against England on Tuesday with Welbeck now out as well as Sturridge + Rooney. Is he going to start Defoe who can't even get a game for his club?
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/matches/ukraine-v-england/winner
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« Reply #52660 on: September 07, 2013, 01:55:18 AM »

Need some advice, I've got 20 @ 3.75 and 100@ 2.75 on Nedal for the open, never really laid anything on betfair but this seems like a prime opportunity? Or should I just trust he will walk it like he should?

When you put the bet on, were you betting he could avoid Djokovic until the final, or that he could beat him?  If the former, you should probably have laid off before now, if the latter then why are you laying off.  Do you think he is underperforming, or too short?   I was under the impression he was performing a bit better than expected and had got a great draw hence the contraction in price. 

I am not sure I understand your strategy.  If it is simply to back 7/4 chances when they should be 7/4 and laying them off at just shy of evens when they should be just shy of evens and paying 5% to Betfair then that isn't a good strategy long run.  If your strategy is to lay someone who is going to "walk it like he should" at just shy of evens, then you are getting it very wrong. 

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« Reply #52661 on: September 07, 2013, 05:03:50 AM »

Need some advice, I've got 20 @ 3.75 and 100@ 2.75 on Nedal for the open, never really laid anything on betfair but this seems like a prime opportunity? Or should I just trust he will walk it like he should?

When you put the bet on, were you betting he could avoid Djokovic until the final, or that he could beat him?  If the former, you should probably have laid off before now, if the latter then why are you laying off.  Do you think he is underperforming, or too short?   I was under the impression he was performing a bit better than expected and had got a great draw hence the contraction in price. 

I am not sure I understand your strategy.  If it is simply to back 7/4 chances when they should be 7/4 and laying them off at just shy of evens when they should be just shy of evens and paying 5% to Betfair then that isn't a good strategy long run.  If your strategy is to lay someone who is going to "walk it like he should" at just shy of evens, then you are getting it very wrong. 



Thanks Doobs, just so I fully understand,  by what your saying In the long term I should only be laying something if I got an original price which was ool for whatever reason then the current circumstance makes it viable eg under performing to lay it off?

But what I shouldn't be doing is laying off if everything is going to plan, in this circumstance is it the 5% that goes to Betfair that makes it long term -ev or is it that he should win it so no reason to lay or I suppose potentially both (think I may have answered my own question, so much easier when you write things down)

As Mark says "keep the faith" Thanks for your replies.
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« Reply #52662 on: September 07, 2013, 07:04:12 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/23973059

Interesting article on the Olympic hosting bid. Politically & economically the pros & cons for each city seem to add up to a close race, with no stand out "safe" option. Has Madrid got an edge?

http://www.oddschecker.com/olympics/olympics/olympic-individual-specials/2020-olympics/who-will-host

I think there might be something about Istanbul being a more ool price with bwin at 9-1, The 2 main polls have it a lot closer than the betting suggests ( albeit Madrid have gone up slightly were as the other 2 have gone backwards but this has just levelled it out more) Historically as well the fav has not always won eg London got it over Paris and Rio got it over Chicago, all of these cities have a strong bid but equally they all have a few issues and maybe the price on Istanbul reflects the trouble they had with riots etc which look like they have now been resolved?

Now I am far from an expert and I have no other information than is available to anyone else, the bookies probably have it right and Tokyo may well win it, but it just doesnt make sense to as to why the prices are so different for what very much looks like a 3 horse race. Backed up by historical data. Maybe someone on here might know abut more and can add whether backing Istanbul is not the value?

I'm convinced they shouldn't be as high as 9-1 ( 13-2 or 6-1 maybe if that's what they all say but def not 9's). Would be great to hear some more views on this.

Edit  This is announced tonight.
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« Reply #52663 on: September 07, 2013, 07:06:13 AM »

haddock appears to have missed the rain overnight......


not good anyway good luck all
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« Reply #52664 on: September 07, 2013, 08:34:27 AM »

Can Madrid afford to host an event which tends to mean pouring billions of tax payers money down the drain? (or literally setting fire to it in the opening/closing ceremonies)
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