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« Reply #74880 on: April 19, 2014, 12:00:44 PM »

I'm a little disappointed that this Hull fella didn't bring Emu with him.
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« Reply #74881 on: April 19, 2014, 12:03:12 PM »

Bingham 3-0 up v Kendo on the other table.  We still have 15 more bullets to sweat on this.

Oh, this is for a whitewash in the tournament? Apologies. Seemed a really stingy price for just Ronnie's game!
 

It's for a 10-0 in the first round.  So 16 bullets.  Without aftertiming like your good self i managed to shift £50 at 9/2 on the ronnie game in the correct score market at 3-0 so freerolling it now as its national after timing day!
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« Reply #74882 on: April 19, 2014, 12:10:05 PM »

Anyone watching soccer am? When did cheerleaders start appearing in football? What a load of tripe. We have Steffen Freund. Far better than a group of girls wiggling out of sync.

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« Reply #74883 on: April 19, 2014, 12:12:36 PM »

Big Adz style i know but just as ronnie was missing that red i was typing i think we should lay 10-0 in the ronnie correct score market he was getting done at some crazy prices on bf compared to the fixed odds firms in running.  Typical.

Well as you say, we have 16 bullets running for us, but with hindsight, maybe that lay would have got us in freeroll territory.

However......

Is that not the old "pissing away equity" thing?

As a lifelong nit, personally, I always took the soft route, but the Elders always get shouty wouty when it is suggested.

Anyway, on to bullet 2.
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« Reply #74884 on: April 19, 2014, 12:13:14 PM »

I'm a little disappointed that this Hull fella didn't bring Emu with him.

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« Reply #74885 on: April 19, 2014, 12:22:42 PM »

Big Adz style i know but just as ronnie was missing that red i was typing i think we should lay 10-0 in the ronnie correct score market he was getting done at some crazy prices on bf compared to the fixed odds firms in running.  Typical.

Well as you say, we have 16 bullets running for us, but with hindsight, maybe that lay would have got us in freeroll territory.

However......

Is that not the old "pissing away equity" thing?

As a lifelong nit, personally, I always took the soft route, but the Elders always get shouty wouty when it is suggested.

Anyway, on to bullet 2.

It's not if the 2nd bet is also a good value bet.  In a spot like that where you can lock a profit in by laying a bad price and still have 15 bullets in running to cop the lot as well.  I laid 9/2 for £50 when bet365 were offering 7/1 in running at the same time so quite happy with that.  If Ronnie hadn't missed the red he did i was about to click 'post' to do this.  What can you do?  No more aftertiming now though.  Busy day ahead.
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« Reply #74886 on: April 19, 2014, 12:41:48 PM »

Big Adz style i know but just as ronnie was missing that red i was typing i think we should lay 10-0 in the ronnie correct score market he was getting done at some crazy prices on bf compared to the fixed odds firms in running.  Typical.

Well as you say, we have 16 bullets running for us, but with hindsight, maybe that lay would have got us in freeroll territory.

However......

Is that not the old "pissing away equity" thing?

As a lifelong nit, personally, I always took the soft route, but the Elders always get shouty wouty when it is suggested.

Anyway, on to bullet 2.

Absolutely not, great spot to trade out. If this one isn't a whitewash, you've got a load more bullets to bink. If it is you're still a winner.
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« Reply #74887 on: April 19, 2014, 01:33:57 PM »

Big Adz style i know but just as ronnie was missing that red i was typing i think we should lay 10-0 in the ronnie correct score market he was getting done at some crazy prices on bf compared to the fixed odds firms in running.  Typical.

Well as you say, we have 16 bullets running for us, but with hindsight, maybe that lay would have got us in freeroll territory.

However......

Is that not the old "pissing away equity" thing?

As a lifelong nit, personally, I always took the soft route, but the Elders always get shouty wouty when it is suggested.

Anyway, on to bullet 2.

Absolutely not, great spot to trade out. If this one isn't a whitewash, you've got a load more bullets to bink. If it is you're still a winner.


Yes, but you have always been in that camp, & personally, I've made money (well, lost less maybe...) thanks to your advice on these things, both on Fred, & privately.

I jut struggle to see where to draw the line. If Lord Grumpy is not too busy punishing, I'd welcome his view, too.
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« Reply #74888 on: April 19, 2014, 01:36:57 PM »

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!
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« Reply #74889 on: April 19, 2014, 01:40:17 PM »

(Paulinho scored, btw)

Fulham then snap-equalised, thanks to the positional awareness of our unnamed right back
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« Reply #74890 on: April 19, 2014, 01:43:29 PM »

It's the hope that kills you

that gives Pauinho 5 for the season

we are on over 5.5.
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« Reply #74891 on: April 19, 2014, 01:47:29 PM »

It's the hope that kills you

that gives Pauinho 5 for the season

we are on over 5.5.

So true
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« Reply #74892 on: April 19, 2014, 01:50:56 PM »

It's the hope that kills you

that gives Pauinho 5 for the season

we are on over 5.5.

Ha, Tighty returns.

I've coped adequately, if not admirably, this morning, but I'm glad you are back amongst us. I've been fighting fires elsewhere this morning, too, as you probably know. Jeez, it never ends! 
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« Reply #74893 on: April 19, 2014, 01:52:38 PM »

I personally only subscribe to laying off if I think it's a value price to lay at.

And as Camel and Neil have said in the past far more eloquently than me, you should prob then turn your position full circle and lay the max if poss/correct to do so.

Too many people get in a hurry to get rid of any risk involved in a good value bet and subsequently place a bad one, just to hedge.

If you're rolled for the bet and it's not life changing, why the hurry to switch sides?

I def see it as needlessly sacrificing valuable equity.

Prob one of the few things I disagree with Chomps with when it comes to betting. #normafanboy

I always look to find spots like these and actually back these, imo-'bad' lays myself.
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« Reply #74894 on: April 19, 2014, 02:04:07 PM »

One finger on nose, one pointing at Dom (universal signal for "yes, that man has it"). No problem with this hedge, it was great (not because it won). Often you can bet a team to win a rugby tournament and when they make the final the other team are a value priced underdog and you can back them on the handicap. These kind of non-direct hedges can often give two value bets and I would approve.

 It is rare in sports events for something to be completely mispriced and then shortly afterwards for the market (or more likely the odds-compiler in the early stages of a reformed market) for the prices to be completely wrong the other way. Normally if we spot something the market has not spotted they continue to not spot it. That is often why hedging is bad as we effectively "bet against our view".

 No time to type an even longer reply than that but hopefully someone can say either, I made that point eloquently, or do the job for me.

 Greening can be great but 90% of the time it is just terrible.
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