Tips for Tikay

[Tal]

Has there been a more puzzling transfer in this window than Vorm to 5pur2?

£4.5M was the fee too.

Seems like a very good bit of business to me. We need a second keeper and he's a proper replacement. We are hoping to have more games this season...

Why is Friedel on the bench then

Honestly? I don't know. May have a knock. Think the fee was £3.5m, although that doesn't matter.

Do you think Friedel may be going?

That sounds like the only logical explanation to me.

Have just found out he's injured.

[Ironside]

We're gonna win the league!!!

You an accies fan?

[Marky147]

NFL: Team to Concede Fewest Points in the regular season.

I'm wondering about this one. Spent a chunk of yesterday afternoon researching defences, as you do...

Market is dominated by the Seattle/Niners/Cardinals (who are all in the same division) and the Panthers. Panthers are very strong up front and formidable in size, but they have a schedule against pocket QBs (who like to throw it deep) at a time when their secondary is in question, so their weakness could well be exposed this season.

How about a team that should win its division, has a strong passrush, the leading individual tacklemaker and a very useful secondary? Cincinnati Bengals @ 14/1. Here's a preview to give you a sense of what I'm chuntering on about:

http://athlonsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-2014-team-preview-and-predictions

I like the look of this team this year personally. On both sides of the ball, they have some big individual players but they have a much improved defence. Their division is blessed by some moderate, rather than spectacular offences, with Pittsburgh the closest to a big threat in the two games they play in the division.

I know Fred has trouble getting on with the shouty red man, but he's the only one with a market (despite calling it "to concede least points" ). I would have expected a price nearer 9-10/1, so am thinking something around the £20 mark?

Recommend £20 on Cincinnati Bengals to concede the "least" points this NFL season with The Believer, Mr Brightside and the rest of the gang.

Click to see full-size image.

(i think the Steelers could well win the division)

but i did agree the Bengals defense looks value here. in part because the 49ers defense regresses.

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl-specials/regular-season/team-to-concede-least-points

anyway, all on geno atkins, rey mualuaga and colleagues

playing in an outdoor division, where the weather gets rough against opponents offensively challenged might help too

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CIN

unfortunately, we were restricted to £1.57

so unless anyone can help, we are stuck

888/Uni are 16/1 Rich?

I could only get a tenner on with them, but can get 17.86 on with Laddies if Tikay doesn't have accounts with either of those.

[sonour]

Quick note to NFL types (spam alert) but on Ch 861 on Tuesday evening, there will be an NFL Betting Preview Show for 2 hours, from 8pm to 10pm.

Thanks for posting that Tikay.

[sonour]

NFL: Team to Concede Fewest Points in the regular season.

I'm wondering about this one. Spent a chunk of yesterday afternoon researching defences, as you do...

Market is dominated by the Seattle/Niners/Cardinals (who are all in the same division) and the Panthers. Panthers are very strong up front and formidable in size, but they have a schedule against pocket QBs (who like to throw it deep) at a time when their secondary is in question, so their weakness could well be exposed this season.

How about a team that should win its division, has a strong passrush, the leading individual tacklemaker and a very useful secondary? Cincinnati Bengals @ 14/1. Here's a preview to give you a sense of what I'm chuntering on about:

http://athlonsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-2014-team-preview-and-predictions

I like the look of this team this year personally. On both sides of the ball, they have some big individual players but they have a much improved defence. Their division is blessed by some moderate, rather than spectacular offences, with Pittsburgh the closest to a big threat in the two games they play in the division.

I know Fred has trouble getting on with the shouty red man, but he's the only one with a market (despite calling it "to concede least points" ). I would have expected a price nearer 9-10/1, so am thinking something around the £20 mark?

Recommend £20 on Cincinnati Bengals to concede the "least" points this NFL season with The Believer, Mr Brightside and the rest of the gang.

Click to see full-size image.

(i think the Steelers could well win the division)

but i did agree the Bengals defense looks value here. in part because the 49ers defense regresses.

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl-specials/regular-season/team-to-concede-least-points

anyway, all on geno atkins, rey mualuaga and colleagues

playing in an outdoor division, where the weather gets rough against opponents offensively challenged might help too

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CIN

unfortunately, we were restricted to £1.57

so unless anyone can help, we are stuck

I've got you £20 @ 16/1 if you want it ?

[TightEnd]

Yes please. Sterling stuff.

[Tal]

Yes please. Sterling stuff.

Must. Not. Bite.

[sonour]

Yes please. Sterling stuff.

Booked

Cut to 9/1 at 888 now lol

[Marky147]

Yes please. Sterling stuff.

Booked

Cut to 9/1 at 888 now lol

I was waiting for Tighty to reply, and then noticed that had happened

[horseplayer]

Watford gaffer gone

[DungBeetle]

Ridiculous.  Players rule the roost at Vicarage Road.

[horseplayer]

Which players would have been annoyed by him Dung?

Doesnt immediately strike me as a particularly tricky dressing room

[Tal]

Yankees lost today 4-3, despite getting more hits (11-7). On the ESPN MLB site, I saw this today, written before the loss to the Blue Jays this afternoon:


For Yankees, the tragic number is 8

AUGUST 30, 2014 6:47:44 PM PDT

By Wallace Matthews

TORONTO -- For the 64th time this season, the Yankees ask you to suspend your disbelief, throw your logic out with the garbage and believe in something when common sense tells you you're out of your mind.

OK, so go with it for awhile. After all, isn't that a lot of what being a fan is all about?

Imagine for the moment that this time the Yankees mean it, that Saturday's 2-0 loss to the hopelessToronto Blue Jays -- a game in which they were separated from the ignominy of being no-hit by Drew Hutchison only by a fourth-inning Mark Teixeiradouble -- is not the end of their playoff chase but only the beginning, and that they are still capable over these final 28 games of salvaging something from this disappointing season.

And realize, because you have no choice, that the two teams they are chasing -- the Seattle Mariners and theDetroit Tigers for the second AL wild card, because really, the AL East is probably beyond reach -- are on pace to win between 88-89 games this season.

That means that to be reasonably assured of playing at least one ballgame in October, the Yankees' goal should be winning 90 games.

Now here's where it gets sticky: That means they can only afford to lose eight more between now and the end of the season.

Think about that. Only eight more times do they have the luxury of tipping their cap to the other pitcher or promising that, any day now, this lineup will start to hit the way it was expected to, or just shrugging their shoulders, as all of them from the manager on down have too many times this season, and saying: "That's baseball."

That estimate could vary by a game or so on either side of the ledger. The Yankees could sneak in with 89 wins, or they might have to scuffle for 91 or even 92. But the safe estimate is 90 wins will get them to where they want to be.

That means that this team that has been hovering in the .526-.540 win percentage range needs to play .714 ball the rest of the way. Also, they likely have to do it without Jacoby Ellsbury for at least a couple of those games -- and quite likely more -- and the hope thatMasahiro Tanaka will ride to the rescue with a couple of late-season wins is now probably reduced to a pipe dream.

By the numbers alone it is highly unlikely. And after watching certain performances, such as Saturday's anemic effort against Hutchison -- a pitcher the Yankees had already faced four times this season and beaten badly in three of them -- or Thursday night in Detroit against a raw kid such as Kyle Lobstein, it seems downright impossible.

But mathematically, it is doable. And given that you are going to be watching anyway, you might as well hope for the best.

Surprisingly, the most realistic voice in the Yankees clubhouse following Saturday's game -- which was over as soon as Jose Bautista rocketed Michael Pineda's 0-2 changeup off the left-field facade in the first inning -- belonged to that normally most optimistic of men, Joe Girardi.

Asked if he felt as if the Yankees' one-hit, two-walk, 12-whiff performance represented a new low for his sputtering offense, Girardi replied: “Yeah, it does. Especially the way we responded [Friday night] when we weren’t doing anything for the first six innings. It’s tough to figure out. You’ve got to go win a game tomorrow and win the series.”

Contrast that with the optimism of Teixeira, who disagreed with his manager on the same question. “I don’t," he said. "Every loss is a loss. You turn the page. We have to turn the page really quick in baseball. It’s another loss, [and] we didn’t swing the bats well today, but we have a chance to win a game tomorrow.”

One thing both men agreed upon, however, is the need to win every series the Yankees have left.

"It’s crazy to think we’re going to win every single game and run the table," Teixeira said. "But we need to win every series."

That means winning Sunday's finale behind Brandon McCarthy.

McCarthy is one of a handful of Yankees who might still actually be hungry because they still have a lot to prove. That handful includes Chase Headley, Stephen Drew, Chris Capuano, Zelous Wheeler, Martin Prado,Shane Greene, and whoever else gets the call from Triple-A Scranton when rosters expand Monday.

Those guys might be the key to a final-month push, if only because every one of them is either playing for a contract, a job in the regular lineup or just a spot on a major league roster next year.

You hate to say it, but guys such as Teixeira and Ellsbury and Brett Gardner and Carlos Beltran and yes, even Derek Jeter, have been there and done that. They have been around long enough to know that sometimes, a guy such as Hutchison can have a great day, and sometimes "That's baseball" is the only answer.

The rest of them don't know that yet and probably aren't jaded enough to believe there are some things in this game that are simply out of their control. And though Drew, a member of the 2013 Red Sox world championship, might also fit the been-there-and-done-that category, he has no job for next season, and he certainly doesn't want to face the same situation this winter that he did in the past: sitting at home on the advice of Scott Boras and waiting for the phone to ring with an offer that might never come.

Even so, it's unlikely those guys have the ability to pick this moribund team up and carry it into October. It is just as unlikely that the Yankees will be able to win 20 of these final 28 games and slip into the final seat on the playoff express.

But in order to believe this Yankee team still has any chance, you have to believe in the unlikely, the illogical and the downright foolish.

The Yankees have been promising you all season they will make those things happen. Now they have 28 chances to make good on that promise -- and only eight more chances to make excuses.

[DungBeetle]

Which players would have been annoyed by him Dung?

Doesnt immediately strike me as a particularly tricky dressing room

These are just my own personal guesses, but from players not featuring and body language I would say McGugan and Dyer are the players most impacted.  However, it simply must be more widespread than 2 players if he is given the boot when the results are so strong.  For example it is unlikely Deeney would sign a new 4 year contract a couple of days ago without being in the know regarding Sannino's future imo.   

[DungBeetle]

Garcia 2/5 to be next boss.  Opened 2/1 jolly but now very short.