Tips for Tikay

[vegaslover]

cycling team:

Chris Froome has today said the Tour de France will be his "main focus" in 2015 and his odds have subsequently been cut in places.

Coral now have the 2013 winner as their 9/4 favourite, but 100/30 at a green irish non bookie.

In what currently "looks set to be one of the most competitive Tours in recent memory", former champion Alberto Contador and Colombian climber Nairo Quintana, winner of this year's Giro d'Italia, are 3/1

This year's Tour de France winner Vincenzo Nibali is out to a top price of 11/2

The TdF is still miles away, and I can't see the prices changing that much till a few weeks out, so no need to lock up funds just yet. Saying that, Nibali is getting closer to a price where I'd be willing to back him, given that there will be yet another cobbled stage early on in this year's Tour. What I'm really waiting to see though, is what Sky have planned for new signing Leopold Konig, and if Froome will do a Giro/Tour double. But it's still early doors yet ... the Tour Down Under doesn't kick off till late January, and I'm still hibernating.

Far too many variables and unknowns about Froome for me atm to be anywhere near value at that price. Nibali looking the most value atm.
In reality will have to see how the form stacks up early season. Last few years most of the best TdF performers have had very good early season form

[arbboy]

Darts

As soon as i saw the draw the first thing i thought was where can i back MVG and Ando to win their quarters.  By god the draw is so bottom heavy it's unreal.  All the past their best dead weight top32 players are in the top half.  MVG could play with his eyes closed and reach the semis.  (Kellett, Jenkins, Pipe, Nichol, Thorn, Baxter).  Chisnall the only danger.

Ditto 2nd qtr with Ando - this is even easier than MVG's quarter with no chis in it (Wright, Pie man, Hammer, Beaton, Klasson, Newton and Painter) - run worse Ando.  If you don't win it this year you will never win it.  He couldn't have hand picked 7 better/more washed up opponents to the semis than these imo - not quite sure how some of these are still in the top 32 tbh)

Bunting delivered a killer draw.  The bottom quarter is brutal beyond belief given neither MVG or Taylor are in it.

Keep it simple.  

MVG 7/2 ew sporting bet.  £50 ew
Ando 8/1 ew 888 £30 ew

For those who like a lay at a big price.  Lewis 12/1 and Wade 16/1 look cracking lays at the prices given their brutal draw and the fact they face each other in last 8 should they both even get that far.

[Stopsleyhatter]

ha, no need for that

value, mispricings, angles..thats the name of the game for the thread stopsley

we could have interests in every game in every sport every night, but no need unless we've spotted something out of the norm

Haha no probs out of interest how do you rate the Bills secondary? Like the look of the Bills +10 that you mentioned @ Denver]

I rate the Bills front 7 (dareus at NT especially)

if you can pressure the quarterback and stop the run you can cover up weaknesses in your secondary because the opposing QB won't have the time to pick you apart

obviously you have to fear Manning and his receiving options, but it didn't strike me that this bills defense/team should be priced to spot any other team a ten point start

Cheers will have a piece of that +10 does seem generous for the Bills..

[doubleup]

think this would count as miscellaneous

"The Ladbrokes betting autumn statement bingo. Will Osborne use any of these?"

http://bit.ly/c5gpH6

Click to see full-size image.

shooorly "hard working families" is the value at 3-1?

[rfgqqabc]

Darts

As soon as i saw the draw the first thing i thought was where can i back MVG and Ando to win their quarters.  By god the draw is so bottom heavy it's unreal.  All the past their best dead weight top32 players are in the top half.  MVG could play with his eyes closed and reach the semis.  (Kellett, Jenkins, Pipe, Nichol, Thorn, Baxter).  Chisnall the only danger.

Ditto 2nd qtr with Ando - this is even easier than MVG's quarter with no chis in it (Wright, Pie man, Hammer, Beaton, Klasson, Newton and Painter) - run worse Ando.  If you don't win it this year you will never win it.  He couldn't have hand picked 7 better/more washed up opponents to the semis than these imo - not quite sure how some of these are still in the top 32 tbh)

Bunting delivered a killer draw.  The bottom quarter is brutal beyond belief given neither MVG or Taylor are in it.

Keep it simple.  

MVG 7/2 ew sporting bet.  £50 ew
Ando 8/1 ew 888 £30 ew

For those who like a lay at a big price.  Lewis 12/1 and Wade 16/1 look cracking lays at the prices given their brutal draw and the fact they face each other in last 8 should they both even get that far.

No each way with 888?

Do the bloody bets on statement bingo every year and not won once!

[arbboy]

Darts

As soon as i saw the draw the first thing i thought was where can i back MVG and Ando to win their quarters.  By god the draw is so bottom heavy it's unreal.  All the past their best dead weight top32 players are in the top half.  MVG could play with his eyes closed and reach the semis.  (Kellett, Jenkins, Pipe, Nichol, Thorn, Baxter).  Chisnall the only danger.

Ditto 2nd qtr with Ando - this is even easier than MVG's quarter with no chis in it (Wright, Pie man, Hammer, Beaton, Klasson, Newton and Painter) - run worse Ando.  If you don't win it this year you will never win it.  He couldn't have hand picked 7 better/more washed up opponents to the semis than these imo - not quite sure how some of these are still in the top 32 tbh)

Bunting delivered a killer draw.  The bottom quarter is brutal beyond belief given neither MVG or Taylor are in it.

Keep it simple.  

MVG 7/2 ew sporting bet.  £50 ew
Ando 8/1 ew 888 £30 ew

For those who like a lay at a big price.  Lewis 12/1 and Wade 16/1 look cracking lays at the prices given their brutal draw and the fact they face each other in last 8 should they both even get that far.

No each way with 888?

Do the bloody bets on statement bingo every year and not won once!

no ew by the look of things at 888.  shame as the place bet at 4/1 was cracking given how weak that half of the draw is.  8/1 win only is still worth a bet.

[Tal]

Ok...brace yourself...

...spurs are 8/1 tomorrow night?

When were we last that big? Usual hyperbole guff: Chelsea have already won the league, spurs have not won there since Ted Ditchburn was in goal, Kyle Naughton might play.

Even still?

[Doobs]

Darts

As soon as i saw the draw the first thing i thought was where can i back MVG and Ando to win their quarters.  By god the draw is so bottom heavy it's unreal.  All the past their best dead weight top32 players are in the top half.  MVG could play with his eyes closed and reach the semis.  (Kellett, Jenkins, Pipe, Nichol, Thorn, Baxter).  Chisnall the only danger.

Ditto 2nd qtr with Ando - this is even easier than MVG's quarter with no chis in it (Wright, Pie man, Hammer, Beaton, Klasson, Newton and Painter) - run worse Ando.  If you don't win it this year you will never win it.  He couldn't have hand picked 7 better/more washed up opponents to the semis than these imo - not quite sure how some of these are still in the top 32 tbh)

Bunting delivered a killer draw.  The bottom quarter is brutal beyond belief given neither MVG or Taylor are in it.

Keep it simple.  

MVG 7/2 ew sporting bet.  £50 ew
Ando 8/1 ew 888 £30 ew

For those who like a lay at a big price.  Lewis 12/1 and Wade 16/1 look cracking lays at the prices given their brutal draw and the fact they face each other in last 8 should they both even get that far.

No each way with 888?

Do the bloody bets on statement bingo every year and not won once!

Was thinking "hard working taxpayers" is a nap if you said families.

Don't know why I am replying, this is clearly just an I have a clean Ladbrokes account brag.

[Ant040689]

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/crystal-palace-v-aston-villa/winner

Palace are 5/1 to win at half time, trailing 0-1.

Watched the full 45 mins. Palace have been all over them, unlucky not to score. Zaha wasteful with crosses but i think it will click for him in the second half, if not Puncheon to come on. Villa did not create one chance for themselves, aside from the goal, where there were two poor defensive errors. Just feel that Palace striking towards the Holmesdale Road end with momentum behind them that if they get that first goal they could well get a second. At 5/1 I think its good for £20 with Stan Jammes.

[Tal]

No love for superspurs?

[Ant040689]

Statistically all over them, but no real chances in the second half. Good rearguard by Villa. One goal I think would have swung another. Gayle coming off at half time for Campbell did not help with the latter offering relatively little.

Thought it would click and it just didn't.

[bobby1]

Did anyone catch the Ding v James Cahill match in the UK snooker Championship?

Cahill had a red over the pocket and just needed a colour to probably win the match 6-1 but didn't manage to get on the colour and Ding nicked it and came back to 5-4. Cahill who is the under 21 World Champion but looks 16 then went 68 in front with 59 left on the table in the 10th frame and thinking he had won tried to smash a red in from about 6 inches but rattled it coz he hit it too hard then seemed a bit miffed Ding hadn't shaken his hand to concede the frame and match. Ding pots the reds he can and gets a 4 point snooker and a free ball on the last one and makes a superb clearance to win the frame by 1 point to make it 5-5.

Cahill who has been sitting in his chair with a tissue over his eyes as Ding cleared up leaves the arena looking terrible and it is so tense that the ref holds up the start of the last frame as he needs to change his bow tie because there is sweat dripping off it. Ding gets in and makes 30 odd but misses an easy red when trying to play a cannon and Cahill  makes a 50 odd break when not really on anything properly including an amazing back double red into the middle bag which Davis in comms is almost shouting at him not to take on. It reminded me of the great 69 break Alex Higgins made in the 1981 World Championship semi final against Jimmy White. Cahill gets back in after a safety battle and wins the frame with more good pots to win 6-5 at 00.40 in the morning almost 3 hours after he needed a red over the bag and a colour to win 6-1.

If you can get the highlights of the game and especially the tenth frame then it is well worth watching. The break he made in the last was fantastic under the pressure he must have been under after throwing away the match twice already. Think he is a name to remember going forward too.

[arbboy]

NBA Tuesday Review (written before the two late West coast games had finished - Toronto involved in one of them - going to book them as a win they are 1.05 at the start of the 4th qtr up 14)

Busy night of games.  Wins for Cleveland, Dallas (beating the Bulls in a mental double OT game on bt sport), toronto and Portland (OKC and denver also lost which is a double whammy for the division bet).  Portland and Toronto both 6 games clear at the top of their divisions as we speak.

http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/group/3

Assists - Rondo went nuts and had 19 assists in his game to extend his lead.  Lawson had 13 to go further clear in 2nd.  Paul and Wall didn't play.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/year/2015/seasontype/2

MVP - Davis had a monster game - 25 points 10 rebounds 4 assists, 6 steals and 4 blocks.  He is going to be right up there in MVP voting and must be big odds on to be defensive player of the year.

Rookie of the year - Parker had a big game for the Bucks in their close loss to the Cavs and lebron - 22 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.  Wiggins and Noel didn't play

[Tal]

Did anyone catch the Ding v James Cahill match in the UK snooker Championship?

Cahill had a red over the pocket and just needed a colour to probably win the match 6-1 but didn't manage to get on the colour and Ding nicked it and came back to 5-4. Cahill who is the under 21 World Champion but looks 16 then went 68 in front with 59 left on the table in the 10th frame and thinking he had won tried to smash a red in from about 6 inches but rattled it coz he hit it too hard then seemed a bit miffed Ding hadn't shaken his hand to concede the frame and match. Ding pots the reds he can and gets a 4 point snooker and a free ball on the last one and makes a superb clearance to win the frame by 1 point to make it 5-5.

Cahill who has been sitting in his chair with a tissue over his eyes as Ding cleared up leaves the arena looking terrible and it is so tense that the ref holds up the start of the last frame as he needs to change his bow tie because there is sweat dripping off it. Ding gets in and makes 30 odd but misses an easy red when trying to play a cannon and Cahill  makes a 50 odd break when not really on anything properly including an amazing back double red into the middle bag which Davis in comms is almost shouting at him not to take on. It reminded me of the great 69 break Alex Higgins made in the 1981 World Championship semi final against Jimmy White. Cahill gets back in after a safety battle and wins the frame with more good pots to win 6-5 at 00.40 in the morning almost 3 hours after he needed a red over the bag and a colour to win 6-1.

If you can get the highlights of the game and especially the tenth frame then it is well worth watching. The break he made in the last was fantastic under the pressure he must have been under after throwing away the match twice already. Think he is a name to remember going forward too.

Nice report!

[tikay]

Did anyone catch the Ding v James Cahill match in the UK snooker Championship?

Cahill had a red over the pocket and just needed a colour to probably win the match 6-1 but didn't manage to get on the colour and Ding nicked it and came back to 5-4. Cahill who is the under 21 World Champion but looks 16 then went 68 in front with 59 left on the table in the 10th frame and thinking he had won tried to smash a red in from about 6 inches but rattled it coz he hit it too hard then seemed a bit miffed Ding hadn't shaken his hand to concede the frame and match. Ding pots the reds he can and gets a 4 point snooker and a free ball on the last one and makes a superb clearance to win the frame by 1 point to make it 5-5.

Cahill who has been sitting in his chair with a tissue over his eyes as Ding cleared up leaves the arena looking terrible and it is so tense that the ref holds up the start of the last frame as he needs to change his bow tie because there is sweat dripping off it. Ding gets in and makes 30 odd but misses an easy red when trying to play a cannon and Cahill  makes a 50 odd break when not really on anything properly including an amazing back double red into the middle bag which Davis in comms is almost shouting at him not to take on. It reminded me of the great 69 break Alex Higgins made in the 1981 World Championship semi final against Jimmy White. Cahill gets back in after a safety battle and wins the frame with more good pots to win 6-5 at 00.40 in the morning almost 3 hours after he needed a red over the bag and a colour to win 6-1.

If you can get the highlights of the game and especially the tenth frame then it is well worth watching. The break he made in the last was fantastic under the pressure he must have been under after throwing away the match twice already. Think he is a name to remember going forward too.

Yes, I watched the whole thing, & it was astonishing, stuff, real drama. He's still available @ 80/1 in a few spots, too. Winning this is unlikely I suppose, but I think he has big wins in him at some stage.

The kid has a great future if he can control his mind, & not develop an attitude.

Have to say, I was very impressed with Shaun Murphy, too. I thought of having a bet on him, but at 7/1, it looks a tad thin to me, especially after I missed 12/1 before his match. He played with great efficiency & precision I thought.  

The TV coverage has been pretty good imo. My only gripe being that John Virgo seems to think it obligitary to say something all the time, instead of just keeping quiet & let the pictures do the talking. He just drones on & on. Clive Everton was the master at that - he'd often stay silent for 4 or 5 minutes, & just allow us to watch the drama unfold without all the bland platitudes. I don't really need to be told "ooh, he's missed that".  

Do you remember when The UK Championships were held at The Guild Hall, Preston? I knew Mike Watterson (who came up with the "UK Champs" idea) quite well at the time, (via JNK & Derby County) & he gave me an "Access All Areas" pass one year, would be mid-eighties I suppose. I sat in the players room when Steve Davis walked in, followed by Griffiths, Thorburn, Jimmy White & all the boys, & I almost wet myself. (That was way before the incontinence set in). Perhaps my favourite day ever in snooker.

Mike Watterson turned out to be a bit of a wrong 'un, but he has had an amazing influence on both snooker & darts. Think he first promoted the Worlds @ The Crucible, & in darts, he is credited with inventing the "sets & legs" scoring system which makes it such compelling TV viewing.  

In recent years, he has made a habit of falling out with people & making enemies everywhere. Think he is a Director of Chesterfield FC, too.

Found two cracking photos of Mike this morning.

Click to see full-size image.

Pretty sure Tighty could name the ground that Mike's car is parked in front of, as well as the Architect & brickmaker.