Tips for Tikay

[Ironside]

how many votes does the winner of bgt need?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z900qiUMdZU

from gibraltar, they've never had anybody on a show like this before and trust me they are joke joke patriotic, it wouldn't surprise me if 75% of the people in gibraltar ended up voting (multiple times!!) plus a lot of Gibraltarians who are now in England/elsewhere, it will be front page huge headline news for weeks in gib.

can currently get 33/1 with ladbrokes/coral making him 17th favourite

all the groups on gibraltar are all going crazy about it

something to think about.

edit: i got the big brother one right last time at similar odds iirc

phone lines outside of the uk are normally blocked for this type of thing

[McGlashan]

The bet was over one round. Isn't that a winner? It went over a round...

The market was over 1.5 rounds ie 1min 30 secs of round 2 so should be settled as a loser.

Said tweet has been deleted suggesting the bet is indeed a loser.

I'm with Tighty. Surely o1.5 just means more than one round, like o1.5 goals or o1.5 wickets. You don't win a bout in 3.5 rounds.

T&C check encouraged, unless you are certain, McG

It's a loser. The price on laying round 1 KO was towards 3-1 on Betfair.

The alarming part was the twitter tipster not understanding the very bet they endorsed.

[tikay]

Peter27, any joy on F1E? Im on with you but cant get updates

Peter tipped Bruno Senna.

The race was yesterday, & unfortunately, & not in any way his fault, Senna's race ended after just 15 seconds........

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In better news, Nelson Piquet, who Peter recommended at 10/1 at the start of the season, finished 3rd, & is 3rd in the Championship.

[Peter-27]

Peter27, any joy on F1E? Im on with you but cant get updates

Peter tipped Bruno Senna.

The race was yesterday, & unfortunately, & not in any way his fault, Senna's race ended after just 15 seconds........

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In better news, Nelson Piquet, who Peter recommended at 10/1 at the start of the season, finished 3rd, & is 3rd in the Championship.

Aye, Senna was involved in this terrifying accident that took seven cars out of contention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moi0Uv9N6JE

Piquet is currently 2nd in the championship, 4 points behind di Grassi.

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/results/driver-standings.aspx

Formula One bets coming in the next hour or so.

[nellberg]

stage 1 of the giro d'italia was yesterday, with Orica green-edge winning the short team time trail as expected. Contador's team came 2nd, with Astana 3rd, Etixx (Uran's team) 4th and team sky in 9th. out of the GC contenders Contador is 6 seconds on Aru, 12 ahead of our man Uran, 20 ahead of Porte and 41 ahead of Pozzovivo. very early days, whilst Contador's team were strong, at one stage they had to slow down for him which may show his form isn't great. Solid from Aru and Uran. Sky (porte's team) will be disappointed with their showing. stage 2 is today, a flat stage where barring accidents there will be no time gains for anyone. very much a slow burner of an event, with the high mountins coming towards the end of the tour, only the 20 stages to go ...  

[TightEnd]

cheapwetsuit

Hello Tighty,

Been a little scarce lately, but I saw a price that got me a little excited. In the Giro D'Italia, BMU has tasty odds for Cannondale-Garmin to win the Team Classification. Sort of team that I like ... No apparent leader, plenty of useful climbers, nice price. Was hoping that the price would go down today after a poor performance in the TT (lost 30sec... Joke), and it did.

Suggest £10 win only on Cannondale-Garmin to win the Team Classification @ 40/1.

Cheers, cws

[TightEnd]

 Giro D'Italia 2015 TEAM CANNONDALE GARMIN (Team Classification - Race) Odds: 40/1 Stake: 10.00 Possible Return:  410.00

[Peter-27]

F1 bets for today:

Points Finish - Romain Grosjean @ EVS with Hills and SpreadX. This is more of a probability rather than a possibility, should be less than EVS. Suggest .. hmm, how brave am I feeling ... £20. It's a good spot, take advantage.

Top 6 Finish - Felipe Massa @ 11/10 with Blose. Price is lower than usual because he only qualified 9th. I don't see any reason to lower the price though, Felipe should have no problem whatsoever getting past the Toro Rosso's and Kvyat ahead. Suggest £20.

Top 6 Finish - Daniel Ricciardo @ 2/1 with LadetteBrokes. Bit of a cover bet in case Felipe retires, but if a Mercedes or Ferrari retires then this looks good! Suggest £10.

Good luck

[JoeBeevers]

The bet was over one round. Isn't that a winner? It went over a round...

The market was over 1.5 rounds ie 1min 30 secs of round 2 so should be settled as a loser.

Said tweet has been deleted suggesting the bet is indeed a loser.

I'm with Tighty. Surely o1.5 just means more than one round, like o1.5 goals or o1.5 wickets. You don't win a bout in 3.5 rounds.

T&C check encouraged, unless you are certain, McG

It's a loser. The price on laying round 1 KO was towards 3-1 on Betfair.

The alarming part was the twitter tipster not understanding the very bet they endorsed.

I saw the Betfair price was 3/1 to lay rd 1 and just assumed it was bad pricing by VC and Boyles (only two firms with that line). I can see that it could be argued both ways though. The records book will show a round two victory. I believe that if over 1.5 rounds was intended as 'one round plus one min 30 secs' then the market should be framed as 'how long will the fight last' with 'over 4mins 30second' as the bet. I would consider you have a case as a winner if you bet over 1.5 rounds as it went two rounds!

(and I didn't back it as I can't get a VC account to last longer than a week, so the opinion is not financially motivated)

Interesting one...

[TightEnd]

Daily Report

Profit on Month £477.75

Outstanding Bets £2591.32

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eCEvN9MELsUxB81rHuWrfoX3zwIMPQQ205Lcjm3kbgU/edit#gid=24

A loss of £4 yesterday

Winners....

+£128 Stoke v WBA v Villa finishing position, placed last July at 2.6.



+£43 Palace v Hull finishing position, another ante-post bet

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+£55 Palace v Newcastle finishing position, placed in february at 11/4 with Palace 4 points behind Newcastle....

Losers

-£15 Crystal Palace without the top 7. should have taken this earlier, missed it

- £20 Heavens guest at Ascot

-£15 Villa v WBA Bookings, finished 1-1 thanks to the ever-reliable Alex Song's late booking

-£10 Dundee, lost at home

-£10 Queen of the South, lost at home

-£50 West Brom to be relegated, no longer mathematically possible



-£40 Joshua to win after 1.5 rounds. knocked his patsy out 9 seconds too early for us....



-£70 Plymouth/Wycombe draw and 0-0. Plymouth scorfed two late goals to peg it back to 2-3 but that was a s close as we got

ongoing positions

- football

Stoke's 3-0 win against a Spurs team already on a private beach in Antigua means they are only a point off securing a top half finish with two games to go. This would be a massive win for the thead with £150 at over 5/2. It would pay for the £400 worth of stale Premier league positions coming on 24th May

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West Ham are 10th, after losing to Villa. Everton's loss at home to Sunderland did us a big favour here, as West Ham for now remain top half



Palace's loss to United leaves a top half finish looking very unlikely, though presumably the each part of the handicap is still ok?

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The Palace v WBA match bet, which looked nailed on for so long, now is very close with Palace only a point ahead and two games to go

Leicester made it 6 wins from 7 and three points clear of Hull in the battle to avoid going down

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Burnley went down, but their win reduces their chances of finishing bottom dramatically, unless QPR do us a favour





In La Liga Barcelona beat Real Soc 2-0 and Valencia then held Madrid to a 2-2 draw helped by an excellent goalkeeping performance...Barca 4 points ahead with two games to go, but the spectre of a strike now looming ahead of next weekend's games





F1

A good day in F1 Qualifying

It is to be hoped that Rosberg converts his pole position into a race win



Verstappen qualified 6th, and we need a top ten finish

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Ericsson did not get out of Q1

Both Force Indias not out of Q1

Neither McLaren out of Q2 though they seem to have crept up the grid ahead of Sauber and Force India

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FE

Piquet third in Monaco, 4 points behind his big rival Di Grassi in the championship standings

Racing

WeddingVow only 3rd in the Oaks trial, given a load to do when last on the home turn, threatened but never looked a winner

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Cricket

Vijay out for 28 for KXIP in their latest loss in the IPL

Rajasthan play CSK today at the top of a table where qualification for the last four has got a lot tighter with teams like Mumbai, KKR and Sunrisers in good form

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Cycling

start of the Giro D-Italia with the team trial. here is our man Uran leading Quickstep to 4th 19seconds off the lead

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MLB

The White Sox star rookie pitcher Carlos Rodon had his first win in the big leagues as they beat the Cncinnati Reds 8-2

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the Red Sox lost 7-1 to the Blue Jays

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[tikay]

Well done argue & Ant (I assume?) for the Stoke & Palace bets.

That Stoke Top Half bet must have been about our oldest bet, placed 10 months ago?

[TightEnd]

Well done argue & Ant (I assume?) for the Stoke & Palace bets.

That Stoke Top Half bet must have been about our oldest bet, placed 10 months ago?

18th June

Stoke v Villa v WBA was Arbboy, Palace v Hull was Ant, Palace v Newcastle was myself

 

[doubleup]

The bet was over one round. Isn't that a winner? It went over a round...

The market was over 1.5 rounds ie 1min 30 secs of round 2 so should be settled as a loser.

Said tweet has been deleted suggesting the bet is indeed a loser.

I'm with Tighty. Surely o1.5 just means more than one round, like o1.5 goals or o1.5 wickets. You don't win a bout in 3.5 rounds.

T&C check encouraged, unless you are certain, McG

It's a loser. The price on laying round 1 KO was towards 3-1 on Betfair.

The alarming part was the twitter tipster not understanding the very bet they endorsed.

I saw the Betfair price was 3/1 to lay rd 1 and just assumed it was bad pricing by VC and Boyles (only two firms with that line). I can see that it could be argued both ways though. The records book will show a round two victory. I believe that if over 1.5 rounds was intended as 'one round plus one min 30 secs' then the market should be framed as 'how long will the fight last' with 'over 4mins 30second' as the bet. I would consider you have a case as a winner if you bet over 1.5 rounds as it went two rounds!

(and I didn't back it as I can't get a VC account to last longer than a week, so the opinion is not financially motivated)

Interesting one...

As an example William Hill rules:

Where a half is stated in a three minute round, 1 minute 30 seconds will define the half for under/over betting. The same principle will be used for a two minute round etc. If the under/over total lands on exactly half of a round bets will be void.

[JoeBeevers]

VC Boxing rules

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1. Outright Betting
All boxing matches include an opportunity to bet on the draw/technical draw outcome in all relevant markets. If the fight ends in a draw or the result is announced ringside as being a technical draw this outcome will be settled as the winner and bets placed on all other outcomes will be deemed losing bets. If a fight is declared a ‘No Contest’ all bets will be made void and stakes returned, unless the outcome of the betting market has already been determined.

2. Round by Round Betting
If any fighter fails to answer the bell at the beginning of a round, the fight is deemed to have finished in the previous round for the purposes of round by round betting.

3. Postponed fights
Bets on postponed fights will stand for 30 days. If either fighter is replaced with another fighter all bets will be void and stakes returned.

4. To Win on Points
If a points decision is awarded before the full number of rounds are completed, or a boxer is disqualified, bets will be settled on the round in which the fight was stopped. The bet 'To Win on Points' will only come into effect if the full number of rounds is completed.

5. Change to scheduled rounds
When a change in scheduled rounds takes place that involves a reduction in rounds (example 12 rounds reduced to 10 rounds), then all bets on Round Betting will stand, with the exception of bets placed on the rounds removed being made void.
 
When a change in scheduled rounds takes place that involves an increase in rounds (example 4 rounds increased to 6 rounds), and the opportunity is not available for customers to bet on the newly additional rounds then all bets on Round Betting will be made void.
 
When a change in scheduled rounds takes place that involves either a reduction or an increase in rounds then all bets placed on Round Group Betting and Total Rounds Over/Under will be made void.
 
Bets on all other markets will stand.

6. Championship/Belt Betting
If the championship or belt being fought over is changed in any way, all bets stand so long as the competitors are the same.

7. Settlement of Bets
Bets will be settled on the official result given in the ring after the bout has concluded, and will not be affected by any future appeals or amendments (unless the amendment was made as a result of a human error made when announcing the result)

8. Tournament Betting
For tournament betting (e.g Prizefighter, Super 6), all bets will stand on any boxer who starts the tournament.  If a fighter withdraws after taking any part in the tournament, he will be settled as a loser.
 
9. Prizefighter
All in Run or Not, Including Reserve Fighter(s). If the Reserve fails to compete they will be settled as a loser.

 
10. To be Knocked Down
A fighter is deemed to have been knocked down if the referee performs a mandatory 8 count or if the fighter is ko’d and no count is necessary. Anything deemed a slip by the referee does not count..
11. Round Group Betting
You are betting on which group of rounds the fight will be won in. This can be by KO, TKO or disqualification. If the fight ends in a Technical Decision before the scheduled fight distance all bets will be settled as a win by decision.

12. Maximum Payout Limits
Please see here for Maximum Payout Details

[JoeBeevers]

I guess WH have it covered.

I do think that the boxing over under 1.5 market should be clearer and labelled better. Interesting that VC don't seem to have a specific rule for it (that I can find).