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[TL900]

Ive backed Chisnall alot this year because as you say he has been underrated by the books a hell of alot. Think this is about right though tbh, with the longer format, new surroundings for him, Gary played reasonably well the last 2 weeks also and he is the world champ after all. Expect it to be close with Gary edging it 10-7.

Get all your money on MVG to win the tournament though.

Understand the 'new surroundings' argument to an extent... He's appeared in two major finals now, though, and to say he's upped his game a level in this Premier League is an understatement.

Got the feeling from recent interviews that Anderson is a bit non-plussed about the PL, to be honest. Also worth noting he has the worst checkout percentage of the remaining players by a fair chunk (over 15 weeks).

I'm certainly not closed to the possibility of Anderson coming out and being absolutely unplayable, however I just feel the prices should be closer.

Anderson has not played well throughout the league phase that is without question (especially since judgement night), but the format dictates that the league phase is really only about getting to the O2 and then bringing your game for finals night, look at Barney last year so that might be why he has seemed not to fussed about the PL but when he has one night to win a major title I'm pretty sure hes gona be up for it.

I am by no means saying it is a bad price, it just seems about rightly priced up to me and I wouldnt want to be on either side from a betting stand point.

fwiw I am a big fan of both these guys so I am just looking forward to a cracking game (hopefully).

[TL900]

The fact we are talking about whether Chiz is a 6/4 shot or a flip against Ando is by the by.  What is does show is what cracking value he still is at 20/1+ for the world championship given Ando is a single figure poke.

Still amazes me how short they make Lewis for every single tournament and every single game.

[arbboy]

The fact we are talking about whether Chiz is a 6/4 shot or a flip against Ando is by the by.  What is does show is what cracking value he still is at 20/1+ for the world championship given Ando is a single figure poke.

Still amazes me how short they make Lewis for every single tournament and every single game.

As the announcers says every week 'the twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwo timeeeeeeeeeeeeee backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk to baccccccccccccccck chammmmmmmmmmmmmmpion of the worldddddddddddddddddddddd..............

............jackpooooooooooooot adriaaaaaaaaaaaaan lewisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Apart from that he has literally won fuck all in his career and clearly doesn't take the game/his professional very seriously by some of his performances week in week out.  He has a gambling problem which i have witnessed first hand in betting shops in Stoke.  Rumoured he is a big table games player in casinos as well although i have never seen this first hand but it would stack up with his degen betting shop punting i have seen.  I assume he is a big drinker/eater as well from the size of him.  Fitness/diet is obviously non existent.  He has two kids by two different birds before the age of 30.  

One of his best mates from school who he played pub/county darts with used to work at 365 and left to work in a new Lolbrokes shop in Stoke and robbed the shop of £30k over a year putting his hands in the till.  One of the kids defences in court was that he was 'desperate to keep up with the lifestyle of his best mate Lewis'.  These are the type of hanger on's he is probably surrounded by.  He must have one of the lowest iq's of anyone in professional sport which provide some incredible post match interviews for entertainment purposes and he clearly struggles to handle the fame/lifestyle/money/business side of the game.

He isn't the brightest bulb in the box.  However, on his day he can average 115 and beat anyone in the world.  A lot of people in Stoke seem to think he is only motivated when his end of year tax bill is due (because he has spunked most of the cash in the year which the tax man is due) and that is why he doesn't tend to take the Premier league seriously at all at the start of the calender year and why he has won the World's twice but nothing else.

Wade has won double the tv majors lewis has which given how untalented Wade is compared to Lewis and the mental problems Wade has had for years sums up how much of an under achiever jackpot is but he is, and always will be, a two time back to back champion of the world.

[TightEnd]

Premier League Darts comes to a close this week, and as can be seen by a few of the anteposts on here, bookmakers are still underrating Dave Chisnall.

He has a tough game against Anderson and is arguably in slightly uncharted waters, but both stats and performances suggest this should be priced up far closer than it is. Chizzy has a higher tournament average (an incredibly impressive 101+), is the most prolific 180 hitter in the league and has beaten Anderson both times in the regular season... Arguably incidental in this tournament, but these weren't narrow defeats; he smashed him both times.

I expected Chisnall to be nearer evens, possibly 6/5... but he is a standout 6/4 with BetVictor and on current form, it's a price worth taking.

Assuming you can get on at BV, rec a tenner @ 6/4. (If not, Boyles are 29/20)

 Dave Chisnall v Gary Anderson Dave Chisnall (Match Betting - Match) Odds: 6/4 Stake: 10.00 Possible Return:  25.00

[Bazzaboy]

His second win was in a poor renewal as well. It wasn't quite as bad as Part's in '08 but wasnt a million miles from it, his tournament average that year was sub 95.

He has loads of ability but has only shown it in patches. His best form was in 2013 between the Matchplay and Grand Slam when only and inspired Taylor stopped him winning both. Since then he has flattered to deceive.

[DungBeetle]

"He must have one of the lowest iq's of anyone in professional sport "

I think that accolade is held by South African legend Herchelle Gibbs:

"Gibbs told the commission that he had agreed to a $15 000 offer, conveyed to him by Cronje, to give his wicket away for less than 20 in the fifth one-day game against India in Nagpur in March.  As it transpired, Gibbs inadvertently reneged on the arrangement. He hit his first two deliveries for four and then "I batted like a steam train". He was on "about 30 or 40" when Cronje came to the crease at which point Gibbs asked him what to do. "

[TightEnd]

England play NZ in a two test series starting on Thurs

(NZ are underdogs which is very interesting indeed. almost certainly the better team but away from home and probably a bit undercooked in term of prep)

Lords, then Headingley. weather forecast isn't too good for later this week, headingley these days is a good batting pitch

England have named their 12 for the first test and the bowlers are as follows

Anderson
Broad
Jordan
Wood
Stokes
Ali
Root

either Jordan or Wood will be the third seamer

in WI recently the same line up performed as follows over three tests

overs and wickets

JM Anderson (Eng) 119.2    17    
SCJ Broad (Eng) 111.0    10    
MM Ali (Eng)    60.2             6    
C J Jordan (Eng)    104.0    6    
JE Root (Eng)    46.0        3    
BA Stokes (Eng)    64.0        3    

Ali only played two test matches

the pitches of course were different than they will encounter this week, which will favour seamers more. the New Zealand batting line up is stronger than the WI too, but its the most recent test form we have

So whittling this down, Jordan or Wood may not play both test matches. Root and Ali will bits and pieces play the fifth bowler/spinner. Stokes is inconsistent. A great talent, but not entirely trusted yet as you can see from his over count

that leaves Anderson and Broad.

Against the WIndies Broad had one effective innings in six (4/61, other five innings wicket tallies of 2,1,1,1,1 ). i think he's less than a year away from being dropped.

Over his last 20 tests, Broad has 3 games with 5 or more wickets, Anderson has 8

Give me Anderson any day ending in a y in the following market:

http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/england-v-new-zealand/tests/top-england-bowler

albeit only over two tests (so there is less scope to catch up if one of the secondary bowlers has a good innings) i think Anderson at 9/4 is an extremely solid favourite. would have him far closer to 6/4 13/8 than 2/1 in such a weak field lacking any depth

Recommend £25 Anderson 9/4 Top England series bowler William Hill

[tikay]

^^

Yes please, Rich.

Our best bowler, and if he fails, it won't be for lack of effort, or heart.

[TightEnd]

21 May 2015 - England v New Zealand - England Top Series Bowler - Series Top Bowler
Tip It

James Anderson @ 9/4

Stake : £25.00
Estimated Returns : £
81.25


(i would recommend a larger bet if it were a longer series. perhaps one for the Ashes if prices are around. not too many english bowlers you'd be confident would play 5 tests in that....)

[mulhuzz]

Tighty. Is 9/4 not insane given what you just posted? Surely should be less than 2/1?

[TightEnd]

Tighty. Is 9/4 not insane given what you just posted? Surely should be less than 2/1?

it is, generally. 9/4 looked out of line to me, hence i posted

[arbboy]

fuck me that didn't last long!

[TightEnd]

nba last 4

cavs v hawks

golden state v rockets


i've watched a bit of nba this year, never having previously done so

i think golden state will beat the rockets comfortably. cavs probably win a tight series


should we have a stab at the warriors series correct score..4-1/4-2?

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/western-conference/series-correct-score

houston are only there because of a) Harden b) an almighty Clippers choke. not the same calibre of team as golden state

 

[exstream]

Where does betting on correct scores on same logic end
Have a bet on correct score in Chelsea game tonight?

[arbboy]

nba last 4

cavs v hawks

golden state v rockets


i've watched a bit of nba this year, never having previously done so

i think golden state will beat the rockets comfortably. cavs probably win a tight series


should we have a stab at the warriors series correct score..4-1/4-2?

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/western-conference/series-correct-score

houston are only there because of a) Harden b) an almighty Clippers choke. not the same calibre of team as golden state

 

Just to add balance Houston were seeded 2nd in the West and had home court advantage v Clippers in the last round.  They were the 2nd best team in the regular season in the West despite Harden having to carry the load for big parts of it.  Howard missed big chunks of the season.  There is no doubt that GS are the most likely team to win the nba but i think their prices for the series/outright seem very very skinny to me.  Houston won the most brutal division in the nba with no easy games at all in it on merit to get their 2nd seeding.  GS rely so heavily on 3 point shooting which is a lot less swingy when you are playing the poorer teams than the best 4 teams in the league.  Memphis found a way to slow them right down at times in the last series.  

I know GS have all the stats (4-0 head to head in reg season, biggest point diff in reg season etcetc).  They look like champions but there is an old saying in the NBA you live and die by the 3.  Houston shoot the three as good as most teams in the league so this is going to be a high octane series with plenty of scoring.  Spots like that don't make me want to rush out and back a team at 1/8 to win the series even with home court advantage and all the stats which fit.   They have a rookie coach and rookie players when it comes to this deep in the season and a bucket load of pressure on them to perform to their regular season levels.

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/nba-championship/winner

Recommend £50 singles on Atlanta 9/1 and Houston 14/1 both hills amongst others.  I really want to take on GS at the prices.  Both are under on bf as well for reasonable money.  Big % of the outright book with the firms is taken up by them being 'full' of the Cavs both ante post and just in general.  Creates a nice positive ev spot here for us instead of laying GS on the machine and allows it commission free as well.