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« Reply #102345 on: June 08, 2015, 09:17:29 PM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

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« Reply #102346 on: June 08, 2015, 11:30:43 PM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

It depends on what you want to achieve Peter. Some people would be very happy to choose something that has close to 50% of some kind of a return. By buying points in a rugby game you either leave yourself open to any losses over the £100 or you have to bet so small per point it hardly seems worth it. For instance if you are buying at 40 you would be playing a max of £2.50 per point unless you took on a liability yourself.

If I had a £100 freeroll like this I would be looking for something with maximum volatility but with risk limited to exactly £100, something that really gears up the position. Doing it this way you are most likely to get nothing but you have a chance of a decent return.

You could look at buying a batsman's 50 ups or something like that. Say for instance you bought for £25 at 4 a particular batsman's 50 ups. If he doesn't make 50 you lose the £100 but every run over 54 you get £25 and that could be a real fun position to play once he gets there.

There is sure to be a position in running in the 1st Eng v NZ ODI that you can take at some point along these lines.
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« Reply #102347 on: June 08, 2015, 11:47:00 PM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

I think there's some torrential rain forecast for Friday.
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« Reply #102348 on: June 08, 2015, 11:57:55 PM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

It depends on what you want to achieve Peter. Some people would be very happy to choose something that has close to 50% of some kind of a return. By buying points in a rugby game you either leave yourself open to any losses over the £100 or you have to bet so small per point it hardly seems worth it. For instance if you are buying at 40 you would be playing a max of £2.50 per point unless you took on a liability yourself.

If I had a £100 freeroll like this I would be looking for something with maximum volatility but with risk limited to exactly £100, something that really gears up the position. Doing it this way you are most likely to get nothing but you have a chance of a decent return.

You could look at buying a batsman's 50 ups or something like that. Say for instance you bought for £25 at 4 a particular batsman's 50 ups. If he doesn't make 50 you lose the £100 but every run over 54 you get £25 and that could be a real fun position to play once he gets there.

There is sure to be a position in running in the 1st Eng v NZ ODI that you can take at some point along these lines.


Spent a while posting something similar then saw the above.

Of the markets available now, I was going to suggest buy ton-ups for £6.25 @16. This way you get the whole field rather than one player but your potential profits are much smaller.


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« Reply #102349 on: June 09, 2015, 01:34:18 AM »

Those spread free bets usually have a maximum win amount so check the terms before deciding your target market.
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« Reply #102350 on: June 09, 2015, 09:58:18 AM »

Daily Report

Loss on Month £178.01

Outstanding Bets £1493.12

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eCEvN9MELsUxB81rHuWrfoX3zwIMPQQ205Lcjm3kbgU/edit#gid=25


No bets completed yesterday

MLB, a truncated schedule because it was draft day. led by all star pitcher chris sale who struck out 14, the white sox beat the astros 3-1



in cricket

a fascinating match at headingley where bairstow's 125 (a huge score in a low scoring game) took yorkshire to 229 versus middlesex's 212. middlesex ended the day 100 left with six wickets left needing another 100 or so to make it a very interesting chase

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the middlesex view can be heard on https://audioboom.com/boos/3261976-yor-v-mid-day-two-roland-jones

a remarkable game at canterbury. derbyshire were dismissed for 86 in response to kent's 205 then dismissed kent for 112 in the second innings. needing 232 to win, kent were favourites to take the ten wickets required but derbyshire got to 169-1 by the close!

at bristol, a one innings game with lancashire 14-0, 12 ahead of gloucestershire with 2 games to go

players: vince 76 for hampshire, peters 44 and newtojn 27 for northants
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« Reply #102351 on: June 09, 2015, 10:36:29 AM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

It depends on what you want to achieve Peter. Some people would be very happy to choose something that has close to 50% of some kind of a return. By buying points in a rugby game you either leave yourself open to any losses over the £100 or you have to bet so small per point it hardly seems worth it. For instance if you are buying at 40 you would be playing a max of £2.50 per point unless you took on a liability yourself.

If I had a £100 freeroll like this I would be looking for something with maximum volatility but with risk limited to exactly £100, something that really gears up the position. Doing it this way you are most likely to get nothing but you have a chance of a decent return.

You could look at buying a batsman's 50 ups or something like that. Say for instance you bought for £25 at 4 a particular batsman's 50 ups. If he doesn't make 50 you lose the £100 but every run over 54 you get £25 and that could be a real fun position to play once he gets there.

There is sure to be a position in running in the 1st Eng v NZ ODI that you can take at some point along these lines.


This is excellent advice.  Take an opener when he gets to crease and buy his 50ups in running.  You could make 100 plus points the way ODIs are played these days.  Perfect bet structure for the spread bet where first £100 is on the house.
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« Reply #102352 on: June 09, 2015, 11:09:14 AM »

All, need some advice!

Just opened a Sporting Index account and have £100 to spend as a new member. The rules basically say that after 7 days, whatever I have made in profit is mine to keep. If I lose the entire £100, then nothing happens.

Please advise where you think I should place this, obviously needs to be a short term market.

Cheers Smiley

If the weather remains good then overs points for the Widnes v Wakefield rugby league at the weekend could be decent.

It depends on what you want to achieve Peter. Some people would be very happy to choose something that has close to 50% of some kind of a return. By buying points in a rugby game you either leave yourself open to any losses over the £100 or you have to bet so small per point it hardly seems worth it. For instance if you are buying at 40 you would be playing a max of £2.50 per point unless you took on a liability yourself.

If I had a £100 freeroll like this I would be looking for something with maximum volatility but with risk limited to exactly £100, something that really gears up the position. Doing it this way you are most likely to get nothing but you have a chance of a decent return.

You could look at buying a batsman's 50 ups or something like that. Say for instance you bought for £25 at 4 a particular batsman's 50 ups. If he doesn't make 50 you lose the £100 but every run over 54 you get £25 and that could be a real fun position to play once he gets there.

There is sure to be a position in running in the 1st Eng v NZ ODI that you can take at some point along these lines.


This is excellent advice.  Take an opener when he gets to crease and buy his 50ups in running.  You could make 100 plus points the way ODIs are played these days.  Perfect bet structure for the spread bet where first £100 is on the house.

Buying an opener is perfect but you will have to pay more than 4. You are more likely to get a return with an opener but you will be playing for less than £25 a point so any gains (per run) will be less. Just divide 100 by the offer price to find out how much per point you should play for to limit any losses to £100. You do want to risk the whole £100 in one position though.

Another advantage of buying an opener at a higher price rather than someone lower down the order in single figures is that you will get many more spots where you don't lose the whole £100 and you get a second go.

My preference would be for a player like McCullum or even Butler as they can be so explosive.


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« Reply #102353 on: June 09, 2015, 11:22:31 AM »

Those spread free bets usually have a maximum win amount so check the terms before deciding your target market.

That was my thought too, but it appears no upper limit:

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« Reply #102354 on: June 09, 2015, 11:22:39 AM »

Indeed.  If we go for an opener I'd also buy the team batting first as he isn't either capped by a low target, or forced to play too aggressive with a high target.  You want someone playing their natural game on a nice pitch.  We don't ask for much Smiley

Also as Joe says, this free offer doesn't "die" with the first bet.  If you make £100 in the first bet, then you are then in a position where you can place a bet with £200 downside and you only pay your £100 winnings if you lose the 2nd time round.
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« Reply #102355 on: June 09, 2015, 11:24:38 AM »

I think how Spin are thinking is that because it is a 7 days period, the punter will pay more than £100 in bid/offer if he makes 10/15 bets so this covers the cost of their offer at which point it's just business as usual.
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« Reply #102356 on: June 09, 2015, 11:29:42 AM »

Talking of Spin, I see McLaren are now trading at 70, so Fred has a decent open position from selling at 150.
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« Reply #102357 on: June 09, 2015, 11:33:01 AM »

Whilst I'm here Baldfred are currently 13/8 (max £100) on England to win ODI1 (Betfair 2.50/2.52)
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« Reply #102358 on: June 09, 2015, 12:26:31 PM »

We have a Formula E race in just over 35 minutes time! The Moscow ePrix  Smiley

I think Nelson Piquet will win from 2nd place on the grid, his price is 7/2 (Lassbrokes). The price that is interesting though is Lucas di Grassi who starts 3rd .. 4/1 with Lassbrokes, 7/1 with Bet366InALeapYear.

Suggest £20 on Nelson at 7/2 & Suggest £10 on Lucas at 7/1!


Nelson won! I hope you guys got on it Smiley

@ Peter. Any inside info for Le Mans next weekend? Looks like Audi reliability v Porsche superior straight line speed.

Some, yes. I'll be posting Le Mans bets during the week Smiley

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« Reply #102359 on: June 09, 2015, 12:29:41 PM »

CopaAmerica

Argentina 2/1

Brazil 10/3

Chile 9/2

Colombia 13/2

Argentina worthy favourites?

any value anywhere?

http://bit.ly/CopaAmericaOC 
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