Tips for Tikay

[horseplayer]

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/altrincham-v-eastleigh/winner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34246344

Seems a bit of blue for altricnham on the back of the article above

might be worth a msall bet at ?

No idea on either team other than that above but seems seriuous enough

[TightEnd]

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/altrincham-v-eastleigh/winner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34246344

Seems a bit of blue for altricnham on the back of the article above

might be worth a msall bet at ?

No idea on either team other than that above but seems seriuous enough

Altrincham Altrincham v Eastleigh Winner
3/1
Total Stake: £10.00
Potential Returns: £40.00

[Ironside]

Its difficult for Aberdeen to be too big to win the league, and too short to win w/o Celtic, as the prices for both will have some correlation.

Different bookies with different prices, the 2nd bet would of been great value if we could of gotten the 8.0 for ew but we can't think the 6.5 is fair

I would think the finishing order this season is Celtic Aberdeen hearts with gap between top 2 ~7 hearts ~5 back and the rest a mile behind, but the best odds offered would be value in turning that gaps around

Caveat I have never been or claim to be a bookmaker odds compiler

[Doobs]

silly is the wrong word isn't it, and i don't appreciate it frankly

Think your reasoning is right.  If they are both value, we lay Celtic?  But I actually think the each way hearts could be value?  I don't really follow scottish football, but if hearts were nailed on for 3rd it must be value.  Though assuming they are a lock for at least 3rd seems a stretch after a few games this season.

[BorntoBubble]

silly is the wrong word isn't it, and i don't appreciate it frankly

I was trying to go for a word that didn't cause offence, it seems u didn't find the right one.

I know you understand the concept of value so I still don't understand how you don't understand.

[DungBeetle]

Fred's spreads update - up £25 on mid so far.

Watford up £32.5
Charlton down £7.50
Preston/Leeds Level

[Ironside]

ok to go along with my tip at the weekend for rooney top scorer in scotland (now 5.0 1/4 top 4 in from 7.0)

i have spotted some value on aberdeen to win the league

lolbrookes have gone 1.08 celtic 8.0 aberdeen which i think is laughable
the majority of the bookies are still sticking at 1.05 celtic 11.0 aberdeen which seems about right and right about where betfair exchange has them
3 bookies have gone 13.0 they are sporting satin and billy mountains

aberdeen have a home game against a reasonable but inconstant hamilton tuesday evening to catch up with game missed a couple of weeks back
so any bet will need to be done in next 19 hours i recomend £5 with billys


to go along with this i was looking at the winner w/o celtic market aberdeen is way to short and i am liking the look of hearts
they are available at 8.0 with the other tony kendall a few places 7.5 and 7.0 i really fancied the EW 1/3 top 2
hearts should be finishing 3rd this season and  could finish higher but of the 5 firms offering the e/w the best price is 6.5 with billy montains
so i will leave that with the maths boys i would like to think betting £5 at 8.0 or £10ew at 6.5



cliffs
aberdeen to win spl @13.0 £5 with WH
hearts to win spl w/o celtic @8.0 with tony kendall  £5 or £10ew @6.5 with WH

i might be stupid but i don't understand

if aberdeen win the first bet, hearts cannot win the second and vice versa

how can they both be value?

if Aberdeen win first bet hearts can still win the ew bet by coming 3rd in league
As stated this isn't nailed on and the 8.0 would of been nice if we could get it ew

[TightEnd]

ok to go along with my tip at the weekend for rooney top scorer in scotland (now 5.0 1/4 top 4 in from 7.0)

i have spotted some value on aberdeen to win the league

lolbrookes have gone 1.08 celtic 8.0 aberdeen which i think is laughable
the majority of the bookies are still sticking at 1.05 celtic 11.0 aberdeen which seems about right and right about where betfair exchange has them
3 bookies have gone 13.0 they are sporting satin and billy mountains

aberdeen have a home game against a reasonable but inconstant hamilton tuesday evening to catch up with game missed a couple of weeks back
so any bet will need to be done in next 19 hours i recomend £5 with billys


to go along with this i was looking at the winner w/o celtic market aberdeen is way to short and i am liking the look of hearts
they are available at 8.0 with the other tony kendall a few places 7.5 and 7.0 i really fancied the EW 1/3 top 2
hearts should be finishing 3rd this season and  could finish higher but of the 5 firms offering the e/w the best price is 6.5 with billy montains
so i will leave that with the maths boys i would like to think betting £5 at 8.0 or £10ew at 6.5



cliffs
aberdeen to win spl @13.0 £5 with WH
hearts to win spl w/o celtic @8.0 with tony kendall  £5 or £10ew @6.5 with WH

i might be stupid but i don't understand

if aberdeen win the first bet, hearts cannot win the second and vice versa

how can they both be value?

if Aberdeen win first bet hearts can still win the ew bet by coming 3rd in league
As stated this isn't nailed on and the 8.0 would of been nice if we could get it ew

right

so what are the current prices? if you had to say one was a better bet/value than the other, which?

please use punctuation, capital letters, paragraphs and spellcheck :-)

[Ironside]

Aberdeen to win league at 13.0 on billy mountains is best value. Hearts winner without celtic loses its value because you can't get best price and each way.

[TightEnd]

Aberdeen to win league at 13.0 on billy mountains is best value. Hearts winner without celtic loses its value because you can't get best price and each way.

thanks

Aberdeen Scottish Premiership Winner
12/1
Total Stake: £5.00
Potential Returns: £65.00


as an aside, are celtic as vulnerable as they look this year? not as strong as the O'Neill/Lennon years? why is that?

[Ironside]

They are going to struggle to be as strong as previously were due to not being able to sign players above English championship level. Players they do sign are using Celtic as a stepping stone.

Nobody cares about buying the TV rights for SPL especially without the 4 old firm games per season, and with no ECL money the quality of the players they are bringing in is declining.

Aberdeen had a young squad when they won the league cup 18 months ago but have managed to keep most if not all of that team together while adding in a bit more quality (for their standards) and depth.
 Player for player Celtic team is best in league , but every week they play the opposition and their fans think it a cup final has to take a toll on journeymen forgein players. Aberdeen on other hand have journeymen British and Irish players 1 language and 1 culture. Our fans will be happy with another cup final and double boost if we win it. Celtic will be looking for new manager if they don't win league by double digit points.

[Stopsleyhatter]

 Good afternoon all just wondering if the Bucs are a bet for Fred at +10 10/11 most firms at the Saints.Think the threads done well backing double digit dogs in the past.

[Teacake]

Celtic don't even look at the league table until about 3 months in, the hyperbole is amusing. Aberdeen have made some good signings,  Celtic aren't as strong defensively with the loss of Virgil and Denayer but will still win the league by double figures.For context last season was classed by many as close, Aberdeen were top of the league in December, Celtic won the league by 17 points.

I don't mind dropping points this early, it keeps people interested for longer and we've only dropped 5 in 7 games whilst playing 3 Champions League qualifying rounds its hardly crisis stuff. Aberdeen need to hope the brutal Thursday/Sunday schedule sees Celtic drop points whilst in the Europa League whilst they go on a streak but they have some tricky games away to Hearts, Ross County and Inverness coming up.

I like Ross County and Dundee this season I think they can run Hearts close for 3rd.

[baldock92]

Cardiff seem quite big to me tonight, 15/8 at home to Hull. They're in decent form recently, winning their last 3 and are unbeaten this season so far. Hull are one of the better teams in the championship and will be a test for the bluebirds, but @ nearly 2/1 seriously believe Cardiff are good value.

[Teacake]

They are going to struggle to be as strong as previously were due to not being able to sign players above English championship level. Players they do sign are using Celtic as a stepping stone.

Nobody cares about buying the TV rights for SPL especially without the 4 old firm games per season, and with no ECL money the quality of the players they are bringing in is declining.

Aberdeen had a young squad when they won the league cup 18 months ago but have managed to keep most if not all of that team together while adding in a bit more quality (for their standards) and depth.
 Player for player Celtic team is best in league , but every week they play the opposition and their fans think it a cup final has to take a toll on journeymen forgein players. Aberdeen on other hand have journeymen British and Irish players 1 language and 1 culture. Our fans will be happy with another cup final and double boost if we win it. Celtic will be looking for new manager if they don't win league by double digit points.

Iron we don't sign players from England, we sign young players from abroad with potential resale value such Virgil, Wanyama and Ki who we bought for less than £5m combined and sold for £30m. Hooper was an exception and Forster we signed on loan and managed to get him to stay, theres another £20m, the model generally works although we are terrible at recruiting strikers.
We also try to sign the best young Scottish players such as Armstrong, Mackay-Steven and Scott Allen which we get panned for but when Sky pay more to Thierry Henry than they do to the whole of Scottish football there's not much else we can do. Where we are failing is bringing through players good enough for own first team but even then look at the number of players Celtic have brought through the ranks that are now playing for other SPFL clubs.