Rangers into administration

[henrik777]

Sandy

[Teacake]

League without rangers is a dead league though as much as it pains me to say. Try getting a decent TV rights $ without the big two derbys.

Celtic get less than £2m a season from Sky/ESPN, we can live without that quite easily. I can't remember talk of a dead league when Celtic nearly went out of business.

The league was a lot different by then, werent Celtic terrible back then anyway? And I think Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts were somewhat competing at the time.

I think Celtic will lose out on money from TV and sponsorship.  Will it affect them a lot? Maybe not but I think itll affect the other teams a lot more and cause a downward spiral effect that, imo, has to affect Celtic.  Also I see the overall product at Celtic having to downsize as a result, making less money and with every other team so far behind in quality there is no need to be paying so much in wages when they could spent a lot less and still win it.

As much as Celtic fans are gloating over it all and want to beleive they will be fine, I think its incredibly optimistic to think that removing 1 of the old firm doesnt result in the league being on the same level as the Irish or Welsh leagues.

Yes we were terrible back then and Rangers were terrible throughout the late 70s to the mid to late 80's, Scottish football was much more competitive in both eras with Aberdeen and Dundee Utd in particular very good teams. Scotland does not "need" a strong Celtic and Rangers its proved that before, the standard has gone back since clubs tried to keep pace with the spending of the Murray era Rangers who it turns out were living beyond their means for the best part of 2 decades.

Will Celtic be affected? Of course and an element of re-modelling will no doubt have to be undertaken but the hyperbole is coming mostly from Rangers fans and press and media who realise there jobs will probably be at stake.

What cannot happen is that Rangers get away with this without the harshest of penalties from the SPL not a slap on the wrists. They owe Hearts £1m for Wallace, Dundee Utd for gate money for the recent Scottish Cup tie, Dunfermline gate money for the game at East End Park on Saturday and ICT ticket money for next weeks game, I'm just glad our ticket office had the foresight to demand ticket money up front for our game at the end of December or you would have stiffed us for that as well.

Anyway, thanks for your concern, its heart warming to know that you've taken more time to post about Celtic than your own club who are the ones in administration and possibly heading for liquidation 

[Bazzaboy]

Disgusted with Rangers, Pompey and any other team that so openly defrauds the taxman and ultimately the taxpayer. I want at least one of these clubs to be liquidated to serve as a warning to others.

Surely you should be disgusted by the individual(s) rather than the clubs?

[Ironside]

League without rangers is a dead league though as much as it pains me to say. Try getting a decent TV rights $ without the big two derbys.

Celtic get less than £2m a season from Sky/ESPN, we can live without that quite easily. I can't remember talk of a dead league when Celtic nearly went out of business.

The league was a lot different by then, werent Celtic terrible back then anyway? And I think Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts were somewhat competing at the time.

I think Celtic will lose out on money from TV and sponsorship.  Will it affect them a lot? Maybe not but I think itll affect the other teams a lot more and cause a downward spiral effect that, imo, has to affect Celtic.  Also I see the overall product at Celtic having to downsize as a result, making less money and with every other team so far behind in quality there is no need to be paying so much in wages when they could spent a lot less and still win it.

As much as Celtic fans are gloating over it all and want to beleive they will be fine, I think its incredibly optimistic to think that removing 1 of the old firm doesnt result in the league being on the same level as the Irish or Welsh leagues.

Yes we were terrible back then and Rangers were terrible throughout the late 70s to the mid to late 80's, Scottish football was much more competitive in both eras with Aberdeen and Dundee Utd in particular very good teams. Scotland does not "need" a strong Celtic and Rangers its proved that before, the standard has gone back since clubs tried to keep pace with the spending of the Murray era Rangers who it turns out were living beyond their means for the best part of 2 decades.

Will Celtic be affected? Of course and an element of re-modelling will no doubt have to be undertaken but the hyperbole is coming mostly from Rangers fans and press and media who realise there jobs will probably be at stake.

What cannot happen is that Rangers get away with this without the harshest of penalties from the SPL not a slap on the wrists. They owe Hearts £1m for Wallace, Dundee Utd for gate money for the recent Scottish Cup tie, Dunfermline gate money for the game at East End Park on Saturday and ICT ticket money for next weeks game, I'm just glad our ticket office had the foresight to demand ticket money up front for our game at the end of December or you would have stiffed us for that as well.

Anyway, thanks for your concern, its heart warming to know that you've taken more time to post about Celtic than your own club who are the ones in administration and possibly heading for liquidation 

all football debts have to be meet 100% before they can come out of adminstration and get accepted back into the league

[Snowball]

10/1 Kilmarnock on Saturday anyone?

Did anyone get on?Was best priced 17/2 before the Match.

Henrik777, their has been a few decent Videos you haven't posted of late, whats up?

[henrik777]

10/1 Kilmarnock on Saturday anyone?

Did anyone get on?Was best priced 17/2 before the Match.

Henrik777, their has been a few decent Videos you haven't posted of late, whats up?

I was off on the glorious day and the day after so had plenty time to transfer from twitter to here. Thought i'd posted this one but obviously not.


Feel free to add your own.

It also seems like rangers bashing isn't appreciated by Tighty either.

Sandy

[TightEnd]

thread posted with my eyes open

Back in the old days, it would have been an invitation for flaming etc on here as passions run high when it comes to Rangers and their rivals

Lets debate this sensibly. If not, I'll live and learn and delete the thread

that's all Sandy

I hold no candle for either team, just the bashing has historically led to worse, that's all

[Snowball]

10/1 Kilmarnock on Saturday anyone?

Did anyone get on?Was best priced 17/2 before the Match.
Henrik777, their has been a few decent Videos you haven't posted of late, whats up?

I was off on the glorious day and the day after so had plenty time to transfer from twitter to here. Thought i'd posted this one but obviously not.
Feel free to add your own.
It also seems like rangers bashing isn't appreciated by Tighty either.
Sandy

"Jock" Bashing seems to be fair game tho.

[henrik777]

Luv it

Sandy

[Josedinho]

League without rangers is a dead league though as much as it pains me to say. Try getting a decent TV rights $ without the big two derbys.

Celtic get less than £2m a season from Sky/ESPN, we can live without that quite easily. I can't remember talk of a dead league when Celtic nearly went out of business.

The league was a lot different by then, werent Celtic terrible back then anyway? And I think Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts were somewhat competing at the time.

I think Celtic will lose out on money from TV and sponsorship.  Will it affect them a lot? Maybe not but I think itll affect the other teams a lot more and cause a downward spiral effect that, imo, has to affect Celtic.  Also I see the overall product at Celtic having to downsize as a result, making less money and with every other team so far behind in quality there is no need to be paying so much in wages when they could spent a lot less and still win it.

As much as Celtic fans are gloating over it all and want to beleive they will be fine, I think its incredibly optimistic to think that removing 1 of the old firm doesnt result in the league being on the same level as the Irish or Welsh leagues.

Yes we were terrible back then and Rangers were terrible throughout the late 70s to the mid to late 80's, Scottish football was much more competitive in both eras with Aberdeen and Dundee Utd in particular very good teams. Scotland does not "need" a strong Celtic and Rangers its proved that before, the standard has gone back since clubs tried to keep pace with the spending of the Murray era Rangers who it turns out were living beyond their means for the best part of 2 decades.

Will Celtic be affected? Of course and an element of re-modelling will no doubt have to be undertaken but the hyperbole is coming mostly from Rangers fans and press and media who realise there jobs will probably be at stake.

What cannot happen is that Rangers get away with this without the harshest of penalties from the SPL not a slap on the wrists. They owe Hearts £1m for Wallace, Dundee Utd for gate money for the recent Scottish Cup tie, Dunfermline gate money for the game at East End Park on Saturday and ICT ticket money for next weeks game, I'm just glad our ticket office had the foresight to demand ticket money up front for our game at the end of December or you would have stiffed us for that as well.

Anyway, thanks for your concern, its heart warming to know that you've taken more time to post about Celtic than your own club who are the ones in administration and possibly heading for liquidation 

all football debts have to be meet 100% before they can come out of adminstration and get accepted back into the league

Is that true? Don't you just have to have agreed a payment plan?

[Ironside]

League without rangers is a dead league though as much as it pains me to say. Try getting a decent TV rights $ without the big two derbys.

Celtic get less than £2m a season from Sky/ESPN, we can live without that quite easily. I can't remember talk of a dead league when Celtic nearly went out of business.

The league was a lot different by then, werent Celtic terrible back then anyway? And I think Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts were somewhat competing at the time.

I think Celtic will lose out on money from TV and sponsorship.  Will it affect them a lot? Maybe not but I think itll affect the other teams a lot more and cause a downward spiral effect that, imo, has to affect Celtic.  Also I see the overall product at Celtic having to downsize as a result, making less money and with every other team so far behind in quality there is no need to be paying so much in wages when they could spent a lot less and still win it.

As much as Celtic fans are gloating over it all and want to beleive they will be fine, I think its incredibly optimistic to think that removing 1 of the old firm doesnt result in the league being on the same level as the Irish or Welsh leagues.

Yes we were terrible back then and Rangers were terrible throughout the late 70s to the mid to late 80's, Scottish football was much more competitive in both eras with Aberdeen and Dundee Utd in particular very good teams. Scotland does not "need" a strong Celtic and Rangers its proved that before, the standard has gone back since clubs tried to keep pace with the spending of the Murray era Rangers who it turns out were living beyond their means for the best part of 2 decades.

Will Celtic be affected? Of course and an element of re-modelling will no doubt have to be undertaken but the hyperbole is coming mostly from Rangers fans and press and media who realise there jobs will probably be at stake.

What cannot happen is that Rangers get away with this without the harshest of penalties from the SPL not a slap on the wrists. They owe Hearts £1m for Wallace, Dundee Utd for gate money for the recent Scottish Cup tie, Dunfermline gate money for the game at East End Park on Saturday and ICT ticket money for next weeks game, I'm just glad our ticket office had the foresight to demand ticket money up front for our game at the end of December or you would have stiffed us for that as well.

Anyway, thanks for your concern, its heart warming to know that you've taken more time to post about Celtic than your own club who are the ones in administration and possibly heading for liquidation 

all football debts have to be meet 100% before they can come out of adminstration and get accepted back into the league

Is that true? Don't you just have to have agreed a payment plan?

yeah that could be right but 100% of all footballing debt including wages have to have a plan of repayment

[henrik777]

http://www.scotprem.com/content/mediaassets/doc/SPL%20Rules%20as%20at%2019-Dec-11%20(CURRENT).pdf

.3 No Player may receive any payment of any description from or
on behalf of a Club in respect of that Player’s participation in
Association Football or in an activity connected with Association
Football, other than in reimbursement of expenses actually
incurred or to be actually incurred in playing or training for that
Club, unless such payment is made in accordance with a
Contract of Service between that Club and the Player
concerned..





Improperly registered players ?

Big trouble.

Sandy

[Teacake]

http://www.scotprem.com/content/mediaassets/doc/SPL%20Rules%20as%20at%2019-Dec-11%20(CURRENT).pdf

.3 No Player may receive any payment of any description from or
on behalf of a Club in respect of that Player’s participation in
Association Football or in an activity connected with Association
Football, other than in reimbursement of expenses actually
incurred or to be actually incurred in playing or training for that
Club, unless such payment is made in accordance with a
Contract of Service between that Club and the Player
concerned..




Improperly registered players ?

Big trouble.

Sandy

They're not THAT thick!

Oh, no wait a minute, carry on as you were.

[Snowball]

I heard the punishment for this is every game these Players participated in then the scoreline will read 3-0 against the offending Club.
How long have these contracts been getting dished out for?

[henrik777]

I heard the punishment for this is every game these Players participated in then the scoreline will read 3-0 against the offending Club.
How long have these contracts been getting dished out for?

http://rangerstaxcase.com/2011/03/28/what-is-rangers-tax-case-all-about/

2000/1 apparently.

Of course Paul Murray has been on the board in this time and is rumoured to want to get involved again. Not quite sure how anyone involved can be a "fit and proper" person.

Sandy